Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

[LegionnairE]

Same stupid troll team , Foinikas , LegionnairE , retaxis , BON PLAN , etc
not super power .... dont change my words

but to become worldwide power by military industry in 2030

You said worldwide military power retard.

You make it sound like Turkey is going to be like America, world police.

We're going to become self-sufficient. That's it.

 

[MMM-E]

You said worldwide military power retard.

You make it sound like Turkey is going to be like America, world police.

We're going to become self-sufficient. That's it.

Its worldwide military power by defense industry
Turkiye to join the big club by 2030 ... ( USA , Russia , China , Europe , Turkiye )
dont change my words with your silly brain

We dont need world police role
and not only self-sufficient.
We have influence and interests from Bosnia to Kyrgyzstan-Kazakhstan .. That's it

not regional but Global

 

[LegionnairE]

Its worldwide military power by defense industry
dont change my words with your silly brain

and We dont need world police role
We have influence and interests from Bosnia to Kyrgyzstan .. That's it

not regional but Global

Iran makes drones, North Korea makes tanks, nobody cares.

We're not worldwide anything. We make very good weapons already, but very few countries buy them. Do you know why?

Because Turkey is seen as a third world shithole with an islamic dictatorship and a failing economy.

As long as we have this image, nobody is going to care about what we make.

If we had a good image, we could be selling TB2s to America, Germany. Britain. We would be swimming in money. We could be selling Atmaca, Çakır, SOM-J to America. Easily. Instead of that they are saying "Turkey isn't even worth selling F16s to. They are spitting in our face.

 

[Super Falcon]

Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region



The tension between Turkiye and Greece in the Eastern Mediterranean has escalated rapidly in recent days. When the sea and airspace problems from the past were added to the maritime jurisdiction problem, the situation became even more critical.



Hellenic Air Force Strength

According to open sources, the Hellenic Air Force operates 229 combat aircraft including

32 F-16C/D Block 30
38 F-16C/D Block 50
54 F-16C/D Block 52+
30 F-16C/D Block 52+ Advanced
18 Mirage 2000BG/EG
24 Mirage 2000-5 BG/EG
33 F-4E AUP

These Aircrafts are deployed to 6 main bases (Larissa, Nea Aghialos, Souda, Araxos, Andravida, and Tanagra) and 3 forward bases (Skyros, Lemnos and Kastelli)



24 RAFALE on order

The Tanagra Air Base in Greece is new home of the Rafale Fighter Jets
And the entire fleet will be deployed at Tanagra Air Base by the summer of 2023

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84 F-16 Block70 modernization until 2028

In 2017, Greece started the FMS (Foreign Military Sales) process with the USA to upgrade its 84 F-16C/D Block 52+/52+ Advanced to the F-16V "Viper" level until 2028

-- AN/APG-83 SABR AESA Radar
-- Data link
-- Electronic Warfare System
-- Helmet-mounted display system (JHMCS II)

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Early Warning and Command Control Aircraft

4 Embraer EMB-145H AEWCs
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Network Centric Warfare

Greece has only 30 F-16 Block 52+ Advanced Jets with this capability. while Turkiye has 163+29+35 F-16s with this capability

until 2028 , 84 F-16 block70 modernized Jets will have this capability with Link-16 TDL


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Turkish Air Force Strength

According to open sources, the Turkish Air Force operates 266 combat aircraft, including

36 F-16C/D Block 30
100 F-16C/D Block 40
71 F-16C/D Block 50
29 F-16C/D Block 50+
30 (+/-) F-4E/2020.

These aircraft are deployed to 6 main bases ( Eskişehir, Konya, Merzifon, Bandırma, Diyarbakır and Balıkesir ) and 2 forward bases ( Dalaman ve Malatya )


163 F-16 CCIP Modernization .. ( F-16 block52 standard )

CCIP Modernization for 163 F-16C/D block52 standard ( $3,9 billion ) between 2010 and 2015

AN/APG-68(V)9 Radar
Link-16 System
Self-Protection Electronic Warfare Suite (SPEWS II)
Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS)
AN/AVS-9 Night Vision Goggles (NVG)
Modular Mission Computer
Advanced interrogator/transponder
Integrated precision navigation
LCD Color MFDs
Improved AVTR System
Multifunctional Information Distribution System
High speed Anti-Radar Missile Targeting System

AIM-9x air to air Missile
AIM-120C7 air to air Missile

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35 F-16 OZGUR Modernization .. ( F-16 block70 standard )

It is aimed to equip 35 F-16 Block 30 Fighter Jets with a unique mission computer with national avionics and national OFP software


-- The service life of F-16 Block 30 extended from 8.000 hours to 12.000 hours
-- National Friend-Foe Identification (IFF) System
-- National AESA Radar MURAD
-- National Mission Computer
-- Multifunction Cockpit Center Display Active Matrix Liquid Crystal Display
-- Fuel Hydraulic Gauge
-- Inertial Navigation System
-- Engine Indicator Display
-- National Sound Safety Device

to use all Turkish Missiles and Guided Bombs
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40 new F-16 block70​

79 F-16 modernization to the Viper standard​

The Turkish Ministry of Defense sent a Letter of Request (LoR) to the American government for the acquisition of 40 new F-16C/D Block 70 Viper Fighter Jets as well as the modernization of a total of 80 existing Turkish F-16s to the Viper standard


-- 40 new F-16 block70
-- 79 F-16 modernization to the Viper standard

F-16 Block70

-- APG-83 AESA Radar
-- New avionics architecture
-- New mission computer and electronic warfare suite
-- The new Center Pedestal Display (CPD)
-- Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (Auto GCAS)
-- The Night Vision Imaging System
-- The Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System II
-- SNIPER Advanced Targeting Pod
-- IRST (Infrared Search and Track)
-- Conformal fuel tanks
-- Extended structural service life of 12,000 hours
-- General Electric F110-GE-132 Engine rated at 32,500 lbf (144 kN) of afterburning thrust

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The Eurofighter Typhoon option was first time officially mentioned by Presidential Spokesperson İbrahim Kalın on Sep 25, 2022

Turkiye has brought up the purchase of Eurofighter Typhoon jets, which will not draw any reaction from the NATO against the possibility of the USA's F-16 block70 sale not being realized.


Eurofighter Typhoon

Captor-E AESA Radar
IRST
METEOR Air to Air Missile

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KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

First flight : 2023
In service : 2025

Lenght : 14.7 m
Wingspan : 10 m
Height : 3.3 m

Endurance : 5 Hours
Combat radius : 500 nm
Service ceiling : 35,000 - 45.000 ft
Cruise speed : mach 0,6 - 0,9 ... ( supersonic variant mach 1,4 )
MTOW: 6000 kg
Payload : 1.500 kg

Engine : 1x AI-25TLT .... 1x AI--322F turbofan

-- AESA Radar , EOTS , sensor fusion
-- Stealth design
-- Internal weapon stations
-- Stealth flight capability
-- The ability to hide from Radars
-- Aggressive maneuverability with delta canard and vertical stabilizers
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence

-- SATCOM + 3 redundant LOS
-- Independent navigation
-- Operational capability from TCG ANADOLU light Aircraft Carrier

to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles in the Internal weapon stations for stealth flight capability in BVR combat
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S400 Air Defense System

Radar range : 600 km
Firing range : 380 km 40N6E missile and 250 km 48N6E3 missile
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : mach 3.5 and mach 5,9

Turkiye bought 36 launchers with 192 missiles
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Early Warning and Command Control Aircraft
Network Centric Warfare

4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs can provide a "big picture" of both the airspace and maritime environment and transfer it to the relevant command centers via Link-16 Tactical Data Link

Turkiye's most significant advantage in terms of Airborne Early Warning is the 163+29+35 F-16s with Link-16 TDL capability, while Greece has only 30 F-16 Block 52+ Advanced aircraft with this capability

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F 16 block 50/52 cannot be upgraded to block 70/72 due to spinal cord on their structure

 

[LegionnairE]

F 16 block 50/52 cannot be upgraded to block 70/72 due to spinal cord on their structure

Please, who do you think makes those body parts? Ever heard of TAI? How TAI was founded?

 

[MMM-E]

Iran makes drones, North Korea makes tanks, nobody cares.

but Turkiye develops everything .. Iran and N.Korea only can dream about it

We're not worldwide anything. We make very good weapons already, but very few countries buy them. Do you know why?

170 Countries bought Turkish Weapons and Systems
even Turkiye produce aviation - engine parts for American-European companies
because Turkiye has worldwide high technology facilities and production quality

Turkiye entered export market in the last 10 years ...
and Turkiye has huge potential in the next 10 years

When we develop major military projects , Engines too , then nobody can block Turkish weapons for export

Because Turkey is seen as a third world shithole with an islamic dictatorship and a failing economy.

As long as we have this image, nobody is going to care about what we make.

You have big hatred and butthurt feelings against ERDOGAN
Nobody care about your butthurt feelings


ERDOGAN modernized Turkiye for $1 trillion between 2003 and 2023
ERDOGAN supported Defense Industry to incrase military projects from 62 to 750+

Turkiye's GDP has risen to $960 billion from $230 billion led by ERDOGAN between 2003 and 2013

but since 2013 Turkiye and Turkish economy under attack

-- 2013 Gezi Park rebellion
-- 2013 FETO's judical coup attemp
-- 2015 PKK's big rebellion in 22 cities
-- 2015-17 ISIS's 14 major terror attacks in Turkiye
-- 2016 FETO's military coup attempt
-- 2017-2018 TRUMP's attack on Turkish Economy

-- 2021 Erdogan's stupid policy .. ( 1 USD has risen to 18,7 TL from 7.2 TL )

1 USD has risen to 18,7 TL from 1,8 TL between 2013 and 2023


if you are not biased , you should see this reality that the US and their terrorists -traitors turned Turkiye into HELL in the last 10 years

if there were no attacks on Turkiye and Turkish economy since 2013
now Turkiye would have minimum $1,6 trillion of GDP instead of $853 billion

If we had a good image, we could be selling TB2s to America, Germany. Britain. We would be swimming in money.

USA and Germany are fighting Turkiye
They use PKK , YPG ,FETO terrorists to destroy Turkiye
and so-called ATATURK's soldiers CHP working with USA-Germany and their terrorists

They are spitting in our face.

We are spitting in their face in Iraq,Syria,Libya , Karabakh and in the Eastern Mediterranean

NO Feto victory in Turkiye
NO Haftar victory in Libya
NO Armenian victory in Karabakh
NO Pkk-Ypg terror corridor in Syria
NO tolerance to bandit countries in the Eastern Mediterranean

 

[LegionnairE]

if you are not biased , you should see this reality that the US and their terrorists -traitors turned Turkey into HELL in the last 10 years

Erdo has dictatorial powers. He controls judiciary system, legislative branch and executive branch too. If you have so many powers but you take responsibility for nothing, always blaming others. You're a charlatan not a leader.

170 Countries bought Turkish Weapons and Systems

Peanuts... we're making very little money considering the potential.

Defence export by country 2023 | Statista

In terms of defence exports y country, the United States is the leading military power worldwide, standing behind 40 percent of the world's weapons exports.

www.statista.com

%0.9 PATHETIC for a GLOBAL POWER like Turkey don't you think?

USA and Germany are fighting Turkiye
They use PKK , YPG ,FETO terrorists to destroy Turkiye
and so-called ATATURK's soldiers CHP working with USA-Germany and their terrorists

Imagine Atatürk was like this "But they are fighting Türkiye... Terorists "

A person with victim mentality will always be a victim

 

[MMM-E]

Erdo has dictatorial powers. He controls judiciary system, legislative branch and executive branch too. If you have so many powers but you take responsibility for nothing, always blaming others. You're a charlatan not a leader.

ERDOGAN kicked all traitors and bandit countries
therefore all losers are crying like charlatan

%0.9 PATHETIC for a GLOBAL POWER like Turkey don't you think?

better than nothing
before ERDOGAN , there were only 62 military projects ...

and from $252 million export to $4+ billion export ( increased 16 times )
We can increase exports 16 times more in the next 10 years

when Turkish major military projects and engines will be finished

for example
Fighter Jet minimum $100 million
Attack Helicopter minimum $50 million
Destroyer $1 billion

And the important thing is that Turkiye's foreign policy power is combined with military power.

 

[LegionnairE]

better than nothing
before ERDOGAN , there were only 62 military projects ...

Before Erdo there was this:

now there's this:

Time changes, Did we change enough?

in 2002 Turkey was the 16the biggest economy in the world, Now we're 21st

If you wanna see real progress look at how much South Korea grew in 20 years, Look at how much China grew.

 

[MMM-E]

Imagine Atatürk was like this "But they are fighting Türkiye... Terorists "

A person with victim mentality will always be a victim

ATATURK also fought terrorists DERSIM rebellion in 1925 when Turkiye decided military operation on Mosul-Iraq


Same Powers used PKK/YPG , FETO since 2013 ... but ERDOGAN kicked all of them
now Turkish Forces in TRNC , İraq, Syria, Azerbaijan, Libya , Qatar , Somalia and in the Eastern Mediterranean

 

[LegionnairE]

Same Powers used PKK/YPG , FETO since 2013 ... but ERDOGAN kicked all of them
now Turkish Forces in TRNC , İraq, Syria, Azerbaijan, Libya , Qatar , Somalia and in the Eastern Mediterranean

OK then why are you complaining?

 

[MMM-E]

Time changes, Did we change enough?

There were no Turkish major military projects before ERDOGAN
only MILGEM .. nothing else

from 62 to 750+ led by ERDOGAN

We changed enough
self sufficiency led by ERDOGAN from 20% to 75% between 2003 and 2023
and 95% by 2030

in 2002 Turkey was the 16the biggest economy in the world, Now we're 21st

If you wanna see real progress look at how much South Korea grew in 20 years, Look at how much China grew.

-- Nobody attack on S.Korea
-- S.Korea doesnt fight multi-national enemies in Iraq,Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean

-- USA did military coups ( 1960,1971,1980,1997,2016 ) in Turkiye ,,, but not in S.Korea

-- There are not CHP , FETO , PKK/YPG in S.Korea


1 USD has risen to 18,7 TL from 1,8 TL between 2013 and 2023

if there were no attacks on Turkiye and Turkish economy since 2013
now Turkiye would have minimum $1,6 trillion of GDP instead of $853 billion

even in 2013 , Turkiye had $957 billion of GDP Nominal

 

[LegionnairE]

-- Nobody attack on S.Korea

What the **** is North Korea then?

Saudi Arabia is fighting in Yemen, Houthis attacked and destroyed ARAMCO what the **** is this then?

Fucking ROMANIA is better than GLOBAL POWER Turkey now

 

[LegionnairE]

Holy shit.

Look at Bulgaria:

Bulgaria is better than Turkey now

Goddamn CHPKKFETÖ TERRORISTS, they made Turkey worse than Bulgaria. If it wasn't for them, Erdo would make us superpower

 

[MMM-E]

What the **** is North Korea then?

1950-1953 war against N.Korea .. nothing else


on the other hand ,, Turkiye lost over $2 trillion since 1960

-- American backed military coups 1960,1971,1980,1997,2016

-- USA-Europe-Israel-Iran backed PKK terrorism since 1985

-- asymmetric/economic war agains USA -France -PKK/YPG , FETO , HAFTAR ,etc since 2013

Saudi Arabia is fighting in Yemen, Houthis attacked and destroyed ARAMCO what the **** is this then?

what a joke

1 -- S.Arabia has trillions of dollars of oil money/reserves
2 -- S.Arabia and The UAE fights Houtsis since 2015 and ARAMCO was not destroyed



On the other hand since 2013
-- 2013 Gezi Park rebellion
-- 2013 FETO's judical coup attemp
-- 2015 PKK's big rebellion in 22 cities
-- 2015-17 ISIS's 14 major terror attacks in Turkiye
-- 2016 FETO's military coup attempt
-- 2017-2018 TRUMP's attack on Turkish Economy

4 military operations in Syria
Military action in Libya and Iraq
to match with USA-The EU in the Eastern Mediterranean

RESULT
1 USD has risen to 18,7 TL from 1,8 TL between 2013 and 2023
Turkish currency dropped by 1.000%


on the other hand

1 USD = 3,7 Saudi riyal since 2013