Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

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I'm not saying we can win a long war or a land war,but right now,we have the upper hand in air-to-air battles. Potentially.
This guy just posts threads with the same subject,just different title every now and then and he pretends he doesn't care about "tiny Greece,tiny Israel,pathetic Egypt" etc. etc.

It's an endless loop of posting the same stuff and talking to others arrogantly. And he doesn't have the mental capacity to figure it out and stop.

You have mental issues with big hatred and butthurt feelings
You are dreaming about a war with only air to air combat ..
because Greece buys 24 Rafales

but real world is different from your fantasy world
in a conflict , Turkish Armed Forces will enter the war with all weapons

including S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems

Daydreamer MITCOTAKIS said Greece buys modern Fighter Jets to protect Greek airspace

so funny ,
Fighter Jets can not stop hundreds of Turkish Ballistic and Cruise Missiles
SOM , KARA-ATMACA , YILDIRIM , BORA , TAYFUN also soon CENK and GEZGIN Ballistic and Cruise Missiles to hit all military and strategic targets in Greece


Greeks still dont realize about Turkish Missile projects including RAMJET - SCRAMJET powered supersonic-hypersonic missiles

 

[Foinikas]

Ok,are you done with your ultranationalistic rant now?

 

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Ok,are you done with your ultranationalistic rant now?

Greeks have ultranationalist rant to dream about even fighting regional power Turkiye

better learn from Ukraine which paid a heavy price for its mistake
now nobody can save Ukraine from Russia

 

[Foinikas]

Greeks have ultranationalist rant to dream about even fighting regional power Turkiye

better learn from Ukraine which paid a heavy price for its mistake
now nobody can save Ukraine from Russia

Oh you're not done. Please,continue.

 

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better worry about S400 ... nothing can protect Rafale and F-16V
250-380 km S400 Missiles with speed of mach 5,9 ... good luck

LOL.
If the earth was plate this range may be usefull. Unfortunately, even for you, it is not.

With ukrainian war, we know that russian weapons are not so effective.
In Irak , 1991, when the T72 turrets were flying in the sky the russians said "it's export variant, without all the armor and goodies". Now it's full option russian tanks that are burning.

S300 and S400 don't erase the old style ukrainian jets. So modern jets pilots are really not very terrified.

Su34 and Su35 are shooted by dozen.

No Bro, Turkey made a bad purchase with S400. It's not the supposed death star and it costs you a modern air force. Congrats Erdogan ! He played ad loosed.

 

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S300 and S400 don't erase the old style ukrainian jets. So modern jets pilots are really not very terrified.

Su34 and Su35 are shooted by dozen.

S400 has the longest kill record in the world
Russian S400 in Belarus hit Ukranian SU-27 over Kiev from 150+ km away

French-Italian SAMP-T has capable of engaging against threats at a distance of 100 km

No Bro, Turkey made a bad purchase with S400. It's not the supposed death star and it costs you a modern air force. Congrats Erdogan ! He played ad loosed.

modern air force ?
American control flying computer F35 ? which can not even take off without American permission in a conflict

Turkiye focused on its own KIZILELMA , TISU and TFX projects to become real military power

Turkiye is in right way ..

 

[Foinikas]

S400 has the longest kill record in the world
Russian S400 in Belarus hit Ukranian SU-27 over Kiev from 150+ km away

What to comment on first? That it's probably Russian propaganda? That it's a Su-27? That it's a Su-27 used by Ukrainians?

American control flying computer F35 ? which can not even take off without American permission in a conflict

Oh yeah? You weren't saying that shit before you got kicked out of the program,were you?

 

[LegionnairE]

LOL.
If the earth was plate this range may be usefull. Unfortunately, even for you, it is not.

Yup, it needs to be networked with other Russian radar systems to be fully functional. And obviously Turkey doesn't have any other Russian systems.

Other than giving the middle finger to uncle sam, it's a useless purchase

 

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S400 has the longest kill record in the world

Sure not.
In russian camp it is the S75 (SA2)
In the west it is probably the Patriot (Irak war)

American control flying computer F35 ? which can not even take off without American permission in a conflict

It is probably right.
The UAE F16 during the Lybian 2011 campaign were not cleared by USA to go there. This is why they sent Mirage 2000. So if it was the case for F16, it is probably harder for F35.

modern air force ?

Your air force is declining, with no modernized F16 and no new jets on order. TFX is far from beeing induced and without engine so far.

Greece will have AESA fitted F16, a real game changer, at least 24 Rafale (it is rumored that another 12 are on the agenda) and probably some F35 for day one air to ground strikes (probably on your so precious S400).

So yes, Greece is on track to have a qualitative edge on Turkish air force.

 

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Sure not.
In russian camp it is the S75 (SA2)
In the west it is probably the Patriot (Irak war)

So funny
S75 has range of 45 km

What to comment on first? That it's probably Russian propaganda? That it's a Su-27? That it's a Su-27 used by Ukrainians?

why are you both so ignorant ?

Ukrainian Air Force had 26 SU-27 before the war

YES
S400 has the longest kill record in the world
Russian S400 in Belarus hit Ukranian SU-27 over Kiev from 150+ km away

https://inf.news/en/military/5d24911f2a0c1b51bf601e971542394b.html

 

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Your air force is declining, with no modernized F16 and no new jets on order. TFX is far from beeing induced and without engine so far.

Reality is different than your claims


Turkiye has already started F-16 OZGUR modernization block70 standard ( 35+80 F-16s )

MURAD AESA Radar will be fitted to even AKINCI UCAV in 2023

-- 40 new F-16 block70 on order with 79 block70 kits
-- negotiations continue for 48 Eurofighters with the UK

-- Turkiye has developed KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet to carry AESA Radar and 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles for BVR combat

-- TISU ( ANKA-3 ) unmanned stealth Bomber first flight in 2023
SEAD-DEAD role
Strategic attack - Deep strike


-- Turkiye created Air Defense umbrella to intercept Fighter Jets and Cruise Missiles

KORKUT
SUNGUR
HISAR-A
HISAR-O
SIPER
S400

-- Turkish TF-35.000 turbofan Engine project for the TFX
and Turkish TF-10.000 turbofan Engine project for KIZILELMA


Turkiye is not sleeping and moving on the right path year by year

 

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why are you both so ignorant ?

Ukrainian Air Force had 26 SU-27 before the war

Nobody said Ukraine didn't have Su-27s,you idiot. It's the fact that it was a Su-27 that we stressed.

We will see .. Turkiye has its own agenda
Turkiye is coming to become real worldwide military power by 2030

Turkiye has enough technology to develop everything including turbofan Engine

-- HURJET next gen light attack Fighter Jet
-- TFX air superiority Fighter Jet
-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
-- TISU unmanned stealth Bomber
-- T-929 heavy Attack Helicopter
-- AKINCI strategic UCAV

-- TF-6000 turbofan Engine
-- TF-10.000 turbofan Engine
-- TF-35.000 turbofan Engine
-- TS-1400 turboshaft Engine
-- KTJ-1700 and KTJ-3500 turbojet Engines

-- MURAD AESA Radar with 1.000 T/R Modules ( GaN technology ) for F-16
-- BURFIS AESA Radar with 2.000 T/R Modules ( GaN technology ) for TFX
-- 450+ km ERALP early warning AESA Radar ( GaN technology ) for SIPER AD System

-- SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite
-- ASELPOD Targeting Pod
-- EHPOD Jamming Pod
-- KORAL and REDET-II Radar Electronic Warfare Systems
-- HAVASOJ airborne stand off Jammer ( based on Aircraft )

-- KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG
-- SUNGUR MANPADS
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- GUMS Ballistic Missile Defense System

-- BOZDOGAN WVR Air to Air Missile
-- GOKDOGAN solid BVR Air to Air Missile
-- GOKHAN ramjet BVR Air to Air Missile

-- SOM and CAKIR air launched Cruise Missiles
-- KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile
-- AKBABA anti-radiation Missile
-- TRG-230 and TRLG-230 supersonic Missiles
-- TOLUN-IIR , KUZGUN-SS , KGK-LR long range guided Bombs
-- HGK , KGK , TOLUN , NEB , TEBER , LGK , SERT-83 guided Bombs

-- 300 km GOKSUNGUR JEMSAH supersonic decoy Drone
-- 200 km SIMSEK and 60 km ALPAGUT Kamikaze Drones
-- 800 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone

-- 1.000+ km Ballistic and Cruise Missiles TAYFUN , CENK , GEZGIN


Also F-16 OZGUR modernization block70 standard ... ( 35+80 F-16 )
-- 40 new F-16 block70 on order with 160 km AIM-120D air to air Missiles
-- 79 block70 kits on order
-- negotiations continue for 48 Eurofighters with the UK

-- 192 S400 Air Defense Missiles
-- 4 Boeing E7-T AEWC

You think anyone reads your long lists of future projects by now? You're just spamming the same stuff again and again.

 

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Nobody said Ukraine didn't have Su-27s,you idiot. It's the fact that it was a Su-27 that we stressed.

That it's a Su-27 used by Ukrainians?

read your silly post

maybe Aliens used SU-27 ... idiot
according to silly troll team everything is Russian propaganda , Turkish propaganda

read pathetic losers

https://inf.news/en/military/5d24911f2a0c1b51bf601e971542394b.html

You think anyone reads your long lists of future projects by now? You're just spamming the same stuff again and again.

Keep dreaming with your tiny Greece's 2028-2030 future plans

PDF users gets real info from the Turks

 

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read your silly post

maybe Aliens used SU-27 ... idiot
according to silly troll team everything is Russian propaganda , Turkish propaganda

You can't even understand my post. Just like you couldn't understand Beny's joke with the car,just like you don't understand a lot of things we all say.

PDF users gets real info from the Turks

Yeah real info from other Turks maybe,not from you.

 

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You can't even understand my post. Just like you couldn't understand Beny's joke with the car,just like you don't understand a lot of things we all say.

Silly troll team squirming like a belly dancer
Your post is clear
maybe Aliens used SU-27 ... idiot trying to deflect the facts

according to silly troll team everything is Russian propaganda , Turkish propaganda


Israeli user Beny showed a fake photo as Turkish Car to make fun of Turkiye
I kicked his lie by real Turkish car photo

and you said we are joking ... pathetic trolls
only trolling , babbling and lying ... nothing else

Yeah real info from other Turks maybe,not from you.

not from anti-Erdogan losers ... They called even KIZILELMA as fake plastic toy
but from me and others