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ISLAMABAD: They were never routed, no matter what Pakistan claimed. Instead, the Taliban and al-Qaida fighters have merely relocated. They're still near the Afghan border.

Months after Pakistani troops chased them from South Waziristan, these militants have established a new base farther north under the protection of an insurgent leader who has cut past deals with the Pakistani army, according to residents, militants and reports from Associated Press correspondents who visited recently.

The fighters — including Arabs, Chechens and Uzbeks — roam through markets, frequent restaurants and watch jihadi movies or surf the web at Internet cafes, their weapons propped up against the table. Pakistani troops wave them through checkpoints even though they're armed with assault rifles and rocket launchers.

These are the new VIPs in Pakistan's most dangerous region, North Waziristan.

The influx of these militants in North Waziristan in recent months adds to pressure on the army to launch an offensive there, and raises questions over its policy of making agreements with Gul Bahadur and other insurgent commanders who threaten US forces in Afghanistan but do not attack targets in Pakistan.

Bahadur agreed not to help his fellow militants during last year's offensive in South Waziristan as part of an understanding reached with the army. In exchange, the army would not attack his territory to the north. Now it appears that this pact has backfired on the army, enabling militants whom Pakistan considers a threat to its security to regroup on Bahadur's lands.

The military says it is not moving into North Waziristan because it does not have enough troops to do so effectively. Critics say the force is holding back because it does not want to sever alliances with militant factions fighting just across the border in Afghanistan, believing they will one day serve Pakistan's interests there.

That makes North Waziristan an enticing destination for extremists, even with US missiles regularly pounding the region. All but two of the 27 missile strikes fired from unmanned drones since January have hit targets in the north, according to a count by the AP.

Newly arrived Pakistani Taliban, Arab and Uzbek militants from South Waziristan are now commonly seen in the north's major towns, Mir Ali and Miramshah, which are under the control of Bahadur, according to residents there and two AP reporters in the region.

The Pakistani Taliban has set up a command and control center in Mir Ali bazaar, where it communicates by radio with other groups in the tribal belt, witnesses say.

All those interviewed declined to give their names, citing fear of retribution by either the Taliban or Pakistani security forces. The AP reporters also asked to remain anonymous for the same reason.

"Under tribal customs and traditions, we are bound to host brothers from South Waziristan. We are like brothers and we support each other," said a close aide to Bahadur. "We have no concern that our attitude toward the Pakistani Taliban in our area will invite an army offensive. Why should it? Neither we nor the Pakistani Taliban men have caused any problems for the army in North Waziristan."

Before launching the offensive in South Waziristan, the Pakistani army acknowledged striking the deal with Bahadur.

On Wednesday, army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas denied the force had any ongoing deal with Bahadur not to attack his territory, saying the local administration may have an arrangement with tribal leaders in the area to ensure peace there.

But security analysts and residents disputed this, saying there was clearly a truce of some sort in the region.

Abbas insisted the army had not ceded the north to militants, saying the army had about 25,000 troops stationed there that carry out small-scale, targeted operations against insurgents.

Any such operations are rarely reported.

Despite the remarks by Bahadur's aide, there are signs the new arrivals may be straining relations with their hosts.

The Pakistani Taliban circulated a leaflet two months ago calling on their fighters to avoid any "criminal activity" and interference in the internal affairs of the region.

The army began its operations in South Waziristan in October against the Pakistani Taliban, an umbrella grouping of militants that has claimed responsibility for many of the hundreds of suicide bombs to hit the country over the last two years.

It retook the area in about two months, but most of the insurgents fled rather than fight and none of the top commanders were captured or killed.

In Washington, a senior military official confirmed that fighters scattered from South Waziristan, including some to the north and others into Afghanistan. They included foreign fighters, he said on condition of anonymity because it involves intelligence.

The army has since launched air and ground operations in the Orakzai tribal area, where it says many of those who fled South Waziristan have ended up. But several analysts said they believed North Waziristan was home to most of the insurgents, including their leaders.

"The Taliban are receiving undeclared protection and shelter there in North Waziristan. The issue is now for how long this can be sustained," said Imtiaz Gul, director of the Center for Research and Security Studies in Islamabad. "If you look at the growing convergence between the Pakistan and the US military, it will be difficult for Gul Bahadur to keep these people and not be disturbed."

Bahadur, whose forces do not carry out attacks within Pakistan, is regarded as "good Taliban" by Pakistani security agencies. But he and other allied insurgents leaders in the north, among them Jalaluddin Haqqani, regularly dispatch men to fight US and Nato troops in Afghanistan.

US officials have praised Pakistan's actions against the Taliban in the northwest over the last 18 months, a change from two years ago when their refrain was a near constant "Pakistan must do more." They have also said they understood Pakistan's reasons for not going into North Waziristan immediately.

But an uptick in bombings in recent weeks in Pakistani cities after three month of relative calm will add to calls for action in the north.

"The strikes over the last couple of days mean the Taliban have reorganized," said Mahmood Shah, a former security chief for Pakistan's tribal regions. "I understand the complexities of launching an operation in North Waziristan, but I think it will become a compulsion."

Some residents said they saw signs that a military offensive might come — from soldiers repairing checkpoints on previously abandoned roads, to Pakistani Taliban fighters using the north as a base.

"After the military operation in South Waziristan we have seen Arabs, Uzbeks and Pakistani Taliban in Miran Shah market," said a school teacher in that town near the Afghan border. "I am happy with the agreement between Gul Bahadur and Pakistan, but I fear another military operation in our area when I see these people having free movement."

The owner of a pharmacy in the same town had similar fears.

"I am not hopeful about the future of the Gul Bahadur agreement when I see what's happening on the ground," he said.

DAWN.COM | Pakistan | On the run, militants find new haven
 
the author of this article has only one motive - anti-pakistan. criticising the army for not going into n/waziristan.
 
No, we will not and shall not go into North Waziristan.
 
And why is that???? Why would Pakistan want to leave a part of its territory under Taliban rule?
 
And why is that???? Why would Pakistan want to leave a part of its territory under Taliban rule?

These are not Taliban, they are foreign Mujahideen who go to whichever country muslilms are fighting in. You start fighting with them, they would retaliate in very destructive manner, they have unlimited resources from all over the world.

Once the americans leave, they are gone too. They do not live in Pakistan, they just move around from place to place to fight. Their next stop is yemen, Palestine, sudan or any other country with burgenonig militancy. You should thank god that Maoists are not Muslims or use muslim angle, otherwise as they say in ebonics, U be FU****.

They left after Soviet occupation of Afghanistan for Bosnia, came back to Afghanistan, then to Iraq, back to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They are like assassins, or professioal merceneries like Blackwater. No War is the best solution for all this rather than fighting and effecting a number of lives in a tragic manner.
 
Pakistani troops wave them through checkpoints even though they're armed with assault rifles and rocket launchers.

Pakistani soldiers are really very innocent as compared to the cunning extremist militants and the actions which they did in the name of Islam.
 
These are not Taliban, they are foreign Mujahideen who go to whichever country muslilms are fighting in. You start fighting with them, they would retaliate in very destructive manner, they have unlimited resources from all over the world.

Once the americans leave, they are gone too. They do not live in Pakistan, they just move around from place to place to fight. Their next stop is yemen, Palestine, sudan or any other country with burgenonig militancy. You should thank god that Maoists are not Muslims or use muslim angle, otherwise as they say in ebonics, U be FU****.

They left after Soviet occupation of Afghanistan for Bosnia, came back to Afghanistan, then to Iraq, back to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They are like assassins, or professioal merceneries like Blackwater. No War is the best solution for all this rather than fighting and effecting a number of lives in a tragic manner.


:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
 

:rofl:, what a fool you are. Cant you even converse properly. Seems like everytime something that is negative in Pakistan is talked about, some of you people start to find ways of exploiting it.

WHY should Pakistan fight people who have never threatened or disrupted any thing. If this happens then the common man suffers. Do me a favour, just go bang your head against a wall for real.
 
These are not Taliban, they are foreign Mujahideen who go to whichever country muslilms are fighting in. You start fighting with them, they would retaliate in very destructive manner, they have unlimited resources from all over the world.

so are you saying pakistan wont take action because they fear retaliation? I don't mean to slam pakistan, but if this approach is taken, how do you expect to beat terrorists?


Once the americans leave, they are gone too. They do not live in Pakistan, they just move around from place to place to fight. Their next stop is yemen, Palestine, sudan or any other country with burgenonig militancy. You should thank god that Maoists are not Muslims or use muslim angle, otherwise as they say in ebonics, U be FU****.

But what guarantee is there that they will leave when USA levaes? What if they don't? What if they stay and fight alongside the taliban?


They left after Soviet occupation of Afghanistan for Bosnia, came back to Afghanistan, then to Iraq, back to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They are like assassins, or professioal merceneries like Blackwater. No War is the best solution for all this rather than fighting and effecting a number of lives in a tragic manner.

Yes, they might be really good, but they cant match the resources of a country. In a war, they will eventually be defeated. Don't lose heart my friend!
 
These are not Taliban, they are foreign Mujahideen who go to whichever country muslilms are fighting in. You start fighting with them, they would retaliate in very destructive manner, they have unlimited resources from all over the world.

Once the americans leave, they are gone too. They do not live in Pakistan, they just move around from place to place to fight. Their next stop is yemen, Palestine, sudan or any other country with burgenonig militancy. You should thank god that Maoists are not Muslims or use muslim angle, otherwise as they say in ebonics, U be FU****.

They left after Soviet occupation of Afghanistan for Bosnia, came back to Afghanistan, then to Iraq, back to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They are like assassins, or professioal merceneries like Blackwater. No War is the best solution for all this rather than fighting and effecting a number of lives in a tragic manner.

I think you are mistaking absence of conflict as absence of these taliban/mujahiddins etc..

Looking the other way is the real reason why these guys have such a strong hold in the NWFP region on Pakistan..
 
:rofl:, what a fool you are. Cant you even converse properly. Seems like everytime something that is negative in Pakistan is talked about, some of you people start to find ways of exploiting it.

WHY should Pakistan fight people who have never threatened or disrupted any thing. If this happens then the common man suffers. Do me a favour, just go bang your head against a wall for real.

Its not that i cant converse...it s that i din want to converse with a person with such a opinion...but i couldn control my emotion..that y that :hitwall:
 
so are you saying pakistan wont take action because they fear retaliation? I don't mean to slam pakistan, but if this approach is taken, how do you expect to beat terrorists?




But what guarantee is there that they will leave when USA levaes? What if they don't? What if they stay and fight alongside the taliban?


Yes, they might be really good, but they cant match the resources of a country. In a war, they will eventually be defeated. Don't lose heart my friend!

OK, I did not want to blurt it out, but rather than going after them with guns blazing, the intelligence and elite units would work in secrecy to kill them off one by one. An all out war will be damaging becuase now its time to concentrate on develoment as a few years of low level war have been detrimental.

These people do not like the Pakistani Taliban, they like the afghani taliban. They were proxy groups of Pakistan; You know who Gul Bahadur is, he is related to Faqir of Ipi, read qbout him and learn.

Gul bahadur does not like the Pakistani Taliban, he only hates invaders and returned in 2007 to the war to fight against the NATO forces.

I am at work and cant give more details, you should know how islamic militancy works, it goes from area to area, these people are born into wars and die in wars.

Covert operations is the key here but I think that some people and countries would like Pak to take on foreign fighter, Gul bahadur commandos and Haqqani Network. Just becuase they can damage the country and stall its growth. Things will be done against all groups, just covertly and in a lethal manner. I hope you people can understand this.

Regarding this line

"so are you saying pakistan wont take action because they fear retaliation? I don't mean to slam pakistan, but if this approach is taken, how do you expect to beat terrorists? ".

Why does the Indian military take action against Maoists, why are they refusing. You should get my point now.
 
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We should not go at war with them at North Waziristan,,,,, they r our own people. They r not anti Pakistan but anti America, and don't forget they r our most strongest weapon against india,,, the most feared weapon. (more than Nuclear Bomb)
 
I think you are mistaking absence of conflict as absence of these taliban/mujahiddins etc..

Looking the other way is the real reason why these guys have such a strong hold in the NWFP region on Pakistan..

I do not think that you are familiar with the situation NWFP is a bit further east, FATA is what I think you mean, familiarise yourself with the open border with Afghanistan and the current situation.

Hekmatyar, Haqqani, Gul Bahadur and other mujahideen hall of fame were not in FATA until 2007 when the insurgency picked up. However some groups call that place home, and they do not like invaders.

Also its Khyber Pakhtoonwa, not NWFP.
 

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