You are diving at the micro level of things that eventually formed concrete reasons for the breakup yet you continuously fail to understand it was the physical divide that enabled India to successfully sever that half from us. A single chunk of Pakistan on this side of India could never have been severed regardless the reasons!!!
I still maintain that we could have kept the union intact had it not been for Bhutto's lust for power and greed. He threatened to break the legs of Bengalis who dared to vote for Awami League.
Birth of Bangladesh was possible because the flaws of partition. I told you to go and read on Mount Battens reaction which are now public information, from his personal diary, when Quaid-e-Azam accepted the partition map that he had purposely created so that it would be unacceptable.
Now are you trying to tell me forming Pakistan was Quaid E Azam's mistake? You have lost it completely. This is where divisiveness starts and it ends with the Sindu Desh, Muhajir Republic, Independent Pakhtoonistan and what not. Pakistan could have been saved. The only people who broke Pakistan were intolerant people who did not accept the Bengali vote. There is no reason a country with Bengal in the east and Sindh, Punjab, Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan in the west couldn't be a solid union and nation.
You not want to speak about the British and the French, perhaps 2 of the oldest civilizations of the new world? Do I need to lecture you on what the British have lost over the years? How many countries under their rule have fallen through? Should I lecture you the same on the French?
The British didn't lose anything. They threw away what they had for world democracy. No matter how they behaved it was a bold step to dissipate their empire. They still have hundreds and thousands of Islands like Gibralter (spain) controlled fully by them.
Stop making excuses for throwing the Bengalis away. You did not respond to my point about who wanted the superiority of urdu. You guys broke Pakistan in half and now blame others for it. It is a typical MQM tactic. Avoid the blame and throw it onto someone else.
And most importantly, which of these countries had ever had to contend with a much more stronger enemy physically in between them like India was b/w east & west Pakistan?????? Are you honestly that naive or just plain stupid?
We could have resisted India if we had been united in the 1971 war. Instead we started fighting amongst ourselves. The exact same situation could arise again when MQM, a terrorist organization is banned. The MQM has full insurance and if we try to kick it away Altaf will try to break Pakistan.
So no actual response right? Nothing tangible to write, nothing to disprove my stance.
I wrote an entire post to prove your childishness and disprove your stance. My worry is that the intelligence agencies chase innocents all the time and are so ethnically polarized... I wonder how they operate. I am very saddened to hear a person like you has secured a job in a federal agency.
So the solution, according to you, is to look away from the past and to not learn from the mistakes?
Where did I say that?
On the contrary, I actually support the Talibaan as well, the Mullah Omer group, the Haqqanis and all those who are engaged in the freedom of Afghanistan fighting the illegal invasion. I support all those Talibaan factions that are not attacking Pakistan. My anger is only against TTP and scum like them who are foreign agents hell bent on our internal destabilization and chaos.
Not only are you a ethnic bigot, you are also a terrorist with a badge.
You are in the security services, working for a federal agency and openly support the Taliban but action is taken against secularist liberals. This is epic. The intelligence agencies chase guys like me who are secular by nature and leave people like you in their own agencies. I promise to fight the taliban with my own hands... and they might even go as far to jail me for this.
I cannot understand what is going on in Pakistan. If you really think the Afghan Taliban are noble how will you stop their attacks on Pakistan? You are sympathetic to militants while sitting in office. Yet they won't ever hire ordinary people like me.
The intelligence agencies are becoming useless because of politicized people and militant sympathizers sitting in offices like you.
Again, I will ask you what was the reason for the formation of MQM??? Why did the citizens of Karachi vote so overwhelmingly for MQM??? How did MQM reach the peak as soon as it was formed? Can you answer those questions?
Because they were stupid like everyone else in my country. They think ethnic politics is everything. According to a survey 86% of all Pakistanis hold their ethnicity or sect above Pakistan and above loving Pakistan.
Once you have answered the above correctly and honestly, hopefully, then we can discuss where you got the figure of 3000 murders committed by MQM. We can discuss the murders 10 years preceding MQM and 10 years post MQM formation. We can discuss the reasons and we can discuss the continuity of success the MQM still enjoys from the city that is actually mostly educated.
Arguing with you is an utter waste of time. No matter what evidence you are faced with you will not give up on the MQM. It is a pity what people like you have turned Karachi into.
My posts are continuously either unanswered or steered into other directions, on purpose. You may visit my earlier posts and decide for yourself.
You call this unanswered?
Give me his details and the back ground of it all. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Navaids in Karachi.
Exactly, the next day he will be beaten by MQM thugs... amazing advice.
Yes, today I want Sindhis from rural Sindh out of the matters of Karachi completely.
That is exactly the problem. You should be grateful that in 1947 Sindhis made up 60% of the population of Karachi and vacated their homes to keep muhajir families temporarily, now they make up barely 8% of the total population. They gave up the provincial capital for you and now you want to throw them out.
All Pakistanis are equal. This is what Jinnah envisioned when he made Pakistan. He didn't want you to take all the power yourself in your own hands. You can cry you are oppressed a thousand times. It won't change the fact that you have a GDP per capita 13,000 Rs higher than the Punjabis and are the richest ethnic group in Pakistan, yes indeed, the richest.
We have been governed by the uneducated, illiterates from interior Sindh for the past 65 years!
And that describes the naara I used to hear in Karachi very recently. "Bhookey Nangon gaon mein, badsha sheher mein" (In this case according to those making the naara the badsha's were muhajirs and bhookey nangay were Sindhis.
MQM is a racist, terrorist organization. This is a fact, a reality from which no matter how much you try to hide, you cannot run away from. Any honorable person's concious should hurt when he votes for the MQM after so much... but you will remain the same. All MQM supporters are the same.
It is the saddest things that the educated people of a country are continuously denied the right to choose what's good for them by none other then the illiterates of the country who just happen to outvote them in the province.
The educated people, The middle class... I am more worried about the 70% population that earns less than $2 a day. MQM is interested in the middle class because its vote bank consists of people from the middle class. It has no interest in improving the lives of the people of rural sindh. 70% of Pakistan's population is extremely poor. What about them?
And I fail to understand the harm. Can anybody point out the harm in actually dividing Sindh on the lines that were drawn by ZAB in the 70's?
I am for making the divisions provinces so will partly agree with you here.
There is an urban Sindh and rural Sindh by all accounts including national quota so why not divide them administratively atleast????
These things can be achieved without that fly running around my nose... that fly being the evil MQM. We do not need MQM to solve our problems. It is a terrorist front that is involved in destroying Pakistan.
Secondly, what benefit does it serve Karachi/Hyderabad to be a part of Sindh? Interests should flow both ways, right? What should Karachiites do when the disadvantages are so overwhelming and continous?
The poor oppressed muhajirs with a gdp per capita 13,000 ruppees higher than their punjabi counterparts. With a separate system for Karachi... how you have been oppressed? I cry for you.
Pakistanis will have to abandon their ethnic divisions if we want to advance. Everyone simply demands more rights than the rest. Its a sad situation that we keep voting in criminals. Altaf Hussain called partition the greatest blunder in the history of mankind. That should be enough to disqualify his party from even standing in elections.
Furthermore you do not believe in Pakistan and support the dirty, unwashed Islamists and Wahabi mullahs. I see no reason why a person like you should be appointed as a federal agent in an intelligence agency. I am very worried about the future of Pakistan when I notice people like you.
last i heard was NATO and Americans weren't bringing any weapons through these supply lines .. also Mr DG conveniently forgot to mention the fact that there are thousands of illegal arm manufacturers in northern Pakistan !
