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India’s problem with its aging Air Force fleet is that it requires new fighter jets soon. The MiG-35 is best suited to meet India’s requirements and will be invited to participate in the tendering process in the near future.

Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG will offer the Indian Defence Ministry its latest MiG-35, so that it can participate in a tender to supply medium fighter jets. New Delhi is planning to announce the tender and seek expressions of interest in the near future. Earlier, in 2015, India rejected the ‘MiG 35’, opting for the French Rafale. The Indian Air Force is now organizing the tender, and planning to replace its 200 MiG-21 and MiG-27 airplanes.

In addition to the RAC MiG, those invited to participate in the tendering process are the Swedish company SAAB – with the Gripen NG aircraft, and the American Lockheed Martin – with the “Indian” version of the F-16. A major requirement for tender participants – is maximum localization of production of the fighter aircraft in India.

The United Aircraft Corporation and RAC MiG will participate in the upcoming IAF tender,” Izvestia learned from the UAC. “We just need to wait for the official technical specifications from the Indian government and the invitation. After that, we will prepare and send a package of documents with our proposals to New Delhi,” the UAC representative said.

New Delhi is currently formulating the technical specifications which, in the form of an RFP (Request for Proposals), will be sent to selected companies participating in the tender. This will be the formal launch of the new tender. According to information from sources in the military and diplomatic circles, Indian representatives, as early as this summer, turned to Russia with a request to describe the possible packaging arrangement of the MiG-35, which the United Aircraft Corporation will be ready to offer in the tender.

According to the source, Russia has sent India an expanded list of equipment and weapons, which included electronic warfare stations, suspended opto-electronic sighting containers, a wide range of aircraft weapons, including air-air and air-land missiles, as well as high-precision bombs.

All members of the future tender had met between 2000 and 2015, during a similar competition for the right to supply 126 fighter jets worth $10 billion. In the course of this long tender, the MiG-35 beat the F-16IN and the Gripen NG, but lost out to the French Rafale. However, due to the high prices, India could not buy one hundred, but only 36 fighters. India did not receive the Rafale production technologies and localization of production in Indian enterprises, as promised.

Andrey Frolov, an expert, told Izvestia that the announcement of a new tender could be interpreted as the public recognition by India that the modernization problem of a rapidly aging Air Force fleet has not been solved.

“Now we are seeing a split in the year 2000 tender,” said Frolov. “The Rafale has been purchased, but the first aircraft will be delivered no earlier than 2019. India’s own fighter jet, the Tejas, is apparently not ready yet. And now, in a situation of mass write-offs of the MiG-21 and MiG-27 airplanes, something needs to be done urgently with the domestic fleet.”

Frolov said the outcome of the new tender was difficult to predict. There are some difficulties with all the aircraft invited to participate in the tender. Sweden is prepared to share production technologies of the Gripen fighter, but there are not many Swedish parts in this aircraft. The main components are purchased from the United States and Europe with which they would have to negotiate for permission to localize production in a third country.

Another problem with the Gripen is that, for the production of a new fighter jet, the SAAB Company will be forced to remove parts from aircraft already with the Swedish Air Force. A scandal has recently erupted on this issue in Sweden – the essence of which was the question: does it make sense to “cannibalize” the existing fighter fleet for the production of new aircraft, or is it better to invest in the development and production of a more advanced fighter aircraft? The new aircraft from Saab is scheduled to appear in 2019 which, as in the case of the Rafale, does not solve the current problems of the Indian Air Force.

“With the American F-16 things are easier,” said Frolov. “Its production line in the USA is scheduled for closing in 2017, and Washington could, theoretically, transfer it to India.

In practice, however, Americans have never yet transferred technologies to manufacture their own weapons and military equipment to any other country. Especially since the onboard equipment of this latest version of the aircraft, the F-16 Blok 52/57, includes a radar with active electronically scanned array (AESA), which is considered as the key know-how in the design of modern fighters.

Ivan Konovalov, Head of the Center for Strategic Trend Studies, believes the MiG-35 is the only aircraft with which the Indian military should not have any issues.

“The aircraft participated in the last tender and showed excellent results,” said Konovalov. “The MiG lost out to the French Rafale for political, rather than technical reasons. The formal reason for the choice in favour of the French aircraft was the fact that, under Indian legislation, the Indian military cannot buy weapons and military equipment from only one supplier. And at that time, Russia had already signed several major contracts to supply India with Su-30MKI fighters and naval MiG-29K/KUB planes.”

By Dmitry Litovkin & Alexey Ramm
Source:- RBTH
http://www.defenceupdate.in/migs-try-conquer-india/
 
lol.... Migs should first try to keep up the "serviceability" of their airccrafts before make any more tall claims.

For now the serviceability of Mig 29K and KUB varies between 16 per cent and 39 per cent.

Its hilarious to think they can get any more orders :disagree:
 

Tell me the availability rate of F35B with UK right now.

This is something similar.

When Indian Navy invested in Mig29K , it was first of its kind. Totally different from Sea Harriers.

And when a start was made,lot of difficulties did arise. For example initially we didn't even had enough support staff, pilots etc. Russian pilots assisted us in our first landings and take offs , we even had a Russian support crew.

And the CAG data is taken exactly from this time.

Its obvious if a WASP class crew is given a Nimitz , problems will arise, but the training and administration will mean they will eventually solve them.

As of today Mig29K have a very high availability rate , comparable to western Naval Aviation .
 
lol.... Migs should first try to keep up the "serviceability" of their airccrafts before make any more tall claims.

For now the serviceability of Mig 29K and KUB varies between 16 per cent and 39 per cent.

Its hilarious to think they can get any more orders :disagree:

Contrary to mig-29K

Mig-29UPG serivicibility rate is 75%

Both are different fighter's
 
Contrary to mig-29K

Mig-29UPG serivicibility rate is 75%

Both are different fighter's

Unlikely since the single engine Mirage 2005 with IAF had a serviceability rate of 65%. Mig 29 UPG is twin engine, so twice the maintenance head ache.
 
Unlikely since the single engine Mirage 2005 with IAF had a serviceability rate of 65%. Mig 29 UPG is twin engine, so twice the maintenance head ache.

Do you have source of this news only source in media is article in Defense world portal which state's both mirage-2000 and mig-29 above 70%.

And since you not aware Indian air force just delivered over 100 RD-33 engine recently

If go by CGDA quarterly Audit you will find after m2k deal figures and servicing of Mirage-2000 only increased
 
Too many participants will increase hassles, just go for G2G contract, since all the aircraft has already been evaluated.
 
Do you have source of this news only source in media is article in Defense world portal which state's both mirage-2000 and mig-29 above 70%.

And since you not aware Indian air force just delivered over 100 RD-33 engine recently

If go by CGDA quarterly Audit you will find after m2k deal figures and servicing of Mirage-2000 only increased

You have already mentioned my sources. Why don't you show the CAG report that proves your claim ?
 
You have already mentioned my sources. Why don't you show the CAG report that proves your claim ?

CAG is all in all audit and civilian agency's that has data which outdated by 1-2 years in some case 6 years like Sukhoi-30 MKI which uses 59% figure of 2010 in media

Actually it my department which audit Defense.

CGDA or controller general Defense accounts dedicated defense matters



Which do audit in twice yearly
 
Tell me the availability rate of F35B with UK right now.

This is something similar.

When Indian Navy invested in Mig29K , it was first of its kind. Totally different from Sea Harriers.

And when a start was made,lot of difficulties did arise. For example initially we didn't even had enough support staff, pilots etc. Russian pilots assisted us in our first landings and take offs , we even had a Russian support crew.

And the CAG data is taken exactly from this time.

Its obvious if a WASP class crew is given a Nimitz , problems will arise, but the training and administration will mean they will eventually solve them.

As of today Mig29K have a very high availability rate , comparable to western Naval Aviation .
Credits goes to IN and its professional approach, they are making wonders out of limited amounts of fund.
 
Unless they set up production line in India with ToT MiGs are dead in India
 
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