MiG-35 equal to U.S. F-35: Russia

[ashokdeiva]

please explain sir jee irs too slow? or heavy engines take fuel much more then others?

Thats the reason that the MIG was scraped out of the MMRCA deal on the IAF part, but the machine is an awsome machine for its power. For its power if the RCS or the fuselauge and engine surface RCS are fine tuned then its definetly a contender against F 35

 

[Imran Khan]

Thats the reason that the MIG was scraped out of the MMRCA deal on the IAF part, but the machine is an awsome machine for its power. For its power if the RCS or the fuselauge and engine surface RCS are fine tuned then its definetly a contender against F 35

so its mean it can be used better for defensive roll and air superiority ?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Thats the reason that the MIG was scraped out of the MMRCA deal on the IAF part, but the machine is an awsome machine for its power. For its power if the RCS or the fuselauge and engine surface RCS are fine tuned then its definetly a contender against F 35

That would require redesigning the whole thing.

 

[ashokdeiva]

That would require redesigning the whole thing.

Not necessarily, there has always been a next version in every Fighter design. Its not like when a design is moved to production, the sceintist are exhausted with ideas on improvments on the older desing and they have to start from scrap

 

[gubbi]

MiG35 - a development from the MiG29 - is quite a formidable platform and packs a deadly punch. However, comparing it to the F-35 - not by any stretch of the imagination!

 

[siegecrossbow]

Just because they are both named "something" 35 doesn't mean that they are equal in terms of capabilities.

The F-35 is a generation ahead... enough said.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Not necessarily, there has always been a next version in every Fighter design. Its not like when a design is moved to production, the sceintist are exhausted with ideas on improvments on the older desing and they have to start from scrap

Would you say the F-15 Silent Eagle is a 'stealth' aircraft? Not necessarily. For an aircraft to be 'stealth', it has to be designed from scratch.

Actually, it may even be possible to make an SU-30 'stealthier' by key modifications. Modifications can be, use of composite materials, retractable weapons, removal of canards, etc. But certainly not 'stealth' in the entire sense. The F-117 set that benchmark a long time ago. And now we see the F-22 and soon the F-35. As far as the Russians go, there would be the T-50 and the Indo-Russ FGFA of yours

But nevertheless, the MiG-35 sounds good, but certainly not as advanced as the F-35. Especially as far as avionics go. Let alone being 'stealthy'. The MiG-35 lacks the shaping, and retractable weapons.

And of-course let's not forget, the engine - the most important and most difficult part of any 5th generation aircraft, or any aircraft for that matter. The Americans are pretty thorough on that one.

If they want to compare the MiG-35 to anything, compare it to the Rafale, EFT or something. And guess what, those two beat the MiG-35 during India's MMRCA competition.

Just because they are both named "something" 35 doesn't mean that they are equal in terms of capabilities.

The F-35 is a generation ahead... enough said.

That was funny

 

[Chogy]

The MiG-35 will be detected and destroyed before the pilot ever sees the F-35 that kills it. This is simple truth based upon RCS and AA missile lethality.

A better comparison is MiG-35 vs. F/A-18.

MiG is simply desperate to make $$ as Sukhoi ov er the last decade or two has dominated Russian fighter design. MiG used to lead... they now trail Su in terms of design and performance. Kind of like the rise and fall of McDonnell-Douglas vs. Lockheed.

 

[muse]

Mods should immediately delete any thread suggesting two different aircraft are "equal"

 

[amalakas]

The MiG-35 will be detected and destroyed before the pilot ever sees the F-35 that kills it. This is simple truth based upon RCS and AA missile lethality.

A better comparison is MiG-35 vs. F/A-18.

MiG is simply desperate to make $$ as Sukhoi ov er the last decade or two has dominated Russian fighter design. MiG used to lead... they now trail Su in terms of design and performance. Kind of like the rise and fall of McDonnell-Douglas vs. Lockheed.

Missile lethatlity is on par or higher than the western equivalents.

as far as RCS, no doubt about it, the MiG will show up from every possible angle on the screens of the AESA radars onboard the 5th gen fighters.
Perhaps Mikoyan feel the AESA on board the 35 as well as the IRST are enough to pick up the F-35.

but i think the original comment meant the MiG-35 would probably complement the PakFA

 

[Chogy]

Missile lethatlity is on par or higher than the western equivalents.

On paper, perhaps. There is a lot more real-world data on the missiles an F-35 would carry as opposed to the MiG. We just don't know well enough.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Missile lethatlity is on par or higher than the western equivalents.

as far as RCS, no doubt about it, the MiG will show up from every possible angle on the screens of the AESA radars onboard the 5th gen fighters.
Perhaps Mikoyan feel the AESA on board the 35 as well as the IRST are enough to pick up the F-35.

but i think the original comment meant the MiG-35 would probably complement the PakFA

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to complement the Su-35? (Another 35... People must really like that number0

 

[Firemaster]

The MiG-35 will be detected and destroyed before the pilot ever sees the F-35 that kills it. This is simple truth based upon RCS and AA missile lethality.

A better comparison is MiG-35 vs. F/A-18.

MiG is simply desperate to make $$ as Sukhoi ov er the last decade or two has dominated Russian fighter design. MiG used to lead... they now trail Su in terms of design and performance. Kind of like the rise and fall of McDonnell-Douglas vs. Lockheed.

Or Mig-35 Vs F-16 B60+

 

[coffin]

Just because they are both named "something" 35 doesn't mean that they are equal in terms of capabilities.

The F-35 is a generation ahead... enough said.

Well said , f35 is really a gen ahead of mig35 but can't blame russians its our lankan freind who is using a wrong title.

 

[coffin]

Or Mig-35 Vs F-16 B60+

F16 blk50 is just an upgraded version of 3 decade old design with most of the upgrades internal only unlike Mig35 which a completely new design. So I don't think its fair enough to compare both of them.