Mian Atif, PTI and Oriya Maqbol Jaan..

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

IK and PTI read the posts of @Maarkhoor and PDF. Great work

 

[saif123]

A person praised by IMF cannot be your well wisher., even how big or famous economist he or she is. IMF, World Bank etc. are tools of Capitalist n Zionist to trap already poor countries and make them their slaves forever. Imagine a person continuously talks about a country, its constitution, its policies on Khatm-e-Nubuwwat etc. How can he be loyal to you and work for your well being. There will be a big storm in India if such a "Anti-National" person is selected for any such service. Where is your 'Ghairat' and 'Hamiyat' goes when you talk in favor of such a person?

 

[pak-marine]

Don't bow down in front of the animals IK. Pakistan for all.

He has done it unfortunately.. i will do the same the pressure was enormous , anchors are threatening him on live tv probably he decided not to become controversial “ least he tried !!” this mullah gardi is the reality

 

[Maarkhoor]

He is one of the 25 economists that will shape the future. This is according to the IMF's survey of international economists, journalists and other readers.

Sir, I am not going to eat this candy, who is IMF a Jewish institute who lend loans for interest.

Credibility = lolsss

Unlike sensitive Qadiyanis, I am not worried about who thinks what of me including their spiritual leader, they can declare me Kafir non Muslim in their constitution for Rabwah, I won't mind nor I would make a hue and cry about it (violence against them is excluded they are justified to protest against violent and hateful acts directed at them) I am only interested in how much I myself know about what I believe. Mr Ghulam Mirza is dead ........ there is no need for me to attack his personality.

And it is quite strange that Ghulam Ahmed means Servant of Ahmed ....... but they prefer to call themselves Ahmedi, a disrespect to the name of their spiritual leader. It doesn't make any sense and is wrong.

They are 2 number means counterfeit product and as an original thing we have to confront it....longer period...

IK and PTI read the posts of @Maarkhoor and PDF. Great work

Alhamodillilah,....

Atif Mian already running a campaign against CPEC while India / R&AW invested 500 million USD to derail CPEC...if CPEC is that bad for Pakistan than why India heavily invested against it? simply it is good for Pakistan and enemies of Islam and Pakistan trying to derail it and Atif Qadiani is actively involved.

 

[AZ1]

Good that he is removed now. Ppl mostly qadiyani were taking him like he has fixed how many countries economy.

Please do let me know what current experience he has for fixing economy any past experience? This is his CV

Atif Mian is John H. Laporte, Jr. Class of 1967 Professor of Economics, Public Policy and Finance at Princeton University, and Director of the Julis-Rabinowitz Center for Public Policy and Finance at the Woodrow Wilson School. He holds a bachelors degree in Mathematics with Computer Science and Ph.D. in Economics from MIT. Prior to joining Princeton in 2012 he taught at the University of California, Berkeley and the University of Chicago Booth School of business. Professor Mian's work studies the connections between finance and the macro economy. His latest book, House of Debt, with Amir Sufi builds upon powerful new data to describe how debt precipitated the Great Recession. The book explains why debt continues to threaten the global economy, and what needs to be done to fix the financial system. House of Debt is critically acclaimed by The New York Times, Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal,The Economist, and The Atlantic among others. Professor Mian's research has appeared in top academic journals, including the American Economic Review, Econometrica, Quarterly Journal of Economics, Journal of Finance, Review of Financial Studies and Journal of Financial Economics.

So basically he is great professor who had written great books and taught in Schools etc but never had any real practical experience and I never knew him before this appointment and most on this forum and People of Pakistan doesn't know him well either. Here we are not talking about writing a book on economics rather need a guy who practically implement something. Please do let me know if I am wrong as this is what I have found about him so far. Who knows this haqqani is also qadiyani who is sitting in USA and spitting venom against Pakistan because of asma jhangir who took the guarantee that he will come back and later on we come to know asma jhangir was also qadiyani. You never know since they hide themselves and not reveal the true identity so who is the real enemy a non muslim who show their identity or such people who hide themselves among us.


And talking about merit how come this guy never got any attention from PTI for this post?

http://MirMAK.net/Biography

Mir Mohammad Alikhan is an Internationally renowned Investment Banker, Entrepreneur & Capital Markets Advisor. He was the youngest Chairman and Founder of an investment bank in America and the first Muslim to have owned an investment bank on Wall Street. He has had a successful career as Founder & Chairman The Financial Group Inc., Federal Advisor to Pakistan Govt., Member New Jersey Governors Council, Senior Advisor to New Jersey State Mayors and State Senators. Currently, he is the Co-Chairman of an emerging financial technology company, AMZ MAK Capital Limited.

https://www.facebook.com/MirMAKhanOfficial/

 

[Verve]

He is correct from an Islamic position but spreading misinformation in terms of modern economics.

So for you, modern economics over-rules commands and system given by The Almighty?

 

[313ghazi]

So for you, modern economics over-rules commands and system given by The Almighty?

Did you watch his interview? Before you argue with me, I suggest you waste 15 minutes of your life listening to his BS.

He did not argue for halal finance, he merely went off on a tangent about interest rates to try and give a financially illiterate audience the sense that he knew what he was talking about.

He claimed European economies and Japan had stopped using interest and even bought about negative interest rates and adopted an "Islamic model". You live in Europe and you're literate. You can then use 5 minutes of your time to research why negative interest rates were bought about (to encourage spending to stop the recession from worsening) and i'm sure you're aware that no European economy nor Japan has adapted an Islamic model of finance.

This man claims to be a bastion of piety, but was blatently lying to give himself a false sense of credibility to detract from his obvious bigotry towards another individual.

Had he said "I oppose this appointment because it's a continuation of an Unislamic model of finance which is causing us harm in both this world and the next", I'd have agreed with him. He didn't; he lied and used the word Islam in his lies to mask his hatred towards an individual.

Brother I suggest you read my previous posts. I hope you will find that I have never advocated anything in contradition to the Shariah (and never will), in fact I have advocated in support of Shariah.

 

[Verve]

Did you watch his interview? Before you argue with me, I suggest you waste 15 minutes of your life listening to his BS.

He did not argue for halal finance, he merely went off on a tangent about interest rates to try and give a financially illiterate audience the sense that he knew what he was talking about.

He claimed European economies and Japan had stopped using interest and even bought about negative interest rates and adopted an "Islamic model". You live in Europe and you're literate. You can then use 5 minutes of your time to research why negative interest rates were bought about (to encourage spending to stop the recession from worsening) and i'm sure you're aware that no European economy nor Japan has adapted an Islamic model of finance.

This man claims to be a bastion of piety, but was blatently lying to give himself a false sense of credibility to detract from his obvious bigotry towards another individual.

Had he said "I oppose this appointment because it's a continuation of an Unislamic model of finance which is causing us harm in both this world and the next", I'd have agreed with him. He didn't; he lied and used the word Islam in his lies to mask his hatred towards an individual.

Is there any provision for Riba in the Islamic system?

IK talks of Riaset-e-Madina system (which Orya talks of, so he has covered these points) - there was strictly no Riba in that system. PTI gov policy should be to move towards a riba free financial system.

 

[313ghazi]

Is there any provision for Riba in the Islamic system?

IK talks of Riaset-e-Madina system (which Orya talks of, so he has covered these points) - there was strictly no Riba in that system. PTI gov policy should be to move towards a riba free financial system.

Surely we're at a different conversation now though aren't we? Our Finance Minister Asad Umar hasn't proposed a riba free system either, neither had the PTI manifesto. I think it's the need of the hour, but it's a very different point to whether a man shouldn't be given a job in finance because of his religious beliefs.

 

[Verve]

Surely we're at a different conversation now though aren't we? Our Finance Minister Asad Umar hasn't proposed a riba free system either, neither had the PTI manifesto. I think it's the need of the hour, but it's a very different point to whether a man shouldn't be given a job in finance because of his religious beliefs.

Riaset-e-Madina is IK's vision. And that vision includes (or should include) riba free system as ordained by Allah.

Irrespective of faith, any advisor who doesn't believe in riba free system as a long term policy of Pakistan should be removed.

 

[313ghazi]

Riaset-e-Madina is IK's vision. And that vision includes (or should include) riba free system as ordained by Allah.

Irrespective of faith, any advisor who doesn't believe in riba free system as a long term policy of Pakistan should be removed.

Riaset-e-Madina is IK's election slogan. If he truly wants to setup Riaset-e-Madina he needs to abandon this form of parlimentary democracy too. A leader should not be the most popular man, it should be the one most capable to lead. It should also be someone who is pious and aware of Shariah.

IK has promised none of these things, he rebranded roti, kapre makaan.

PTI has no desire or plan to make Pakistan an interest free economy. This arguement is a distraction to the fact they first hired someone who is a religious minority based on merit (I assume) and then retracted the offer due to public pressure about his religious beliefs. That's discrimination.

You and I live in the UK, if it happened to someone like us we'd be up in arms about it.

 

[Verve]

Riaset-e-Madina is IK's election slogan. If he truly wants to setup Riaset-e-Madina he needs to abandon this form of parlimentary democracy too. A leader should not be the most popular man, it should be the one most capable to lead. It should also be someone who is pious and aware of Shariah.

IK has promised none of these things, he rebranded roti, kapre makaan.

PTI has no desire or plan to make Pakistan an interest free economy. This arguement is a distraction to the fact they first hired someone who is a religious minority based on merit (I assume) and then retracted the offer due to public pressure about his religious beliefs. That's discrimination.

You and I live in the UK, if it happened to someone like us we'd be up in arms about it.

UK is secular, Pakistan is officially an Islamic Republic. Very different nations and people.

Plus the jews are after the labour leader Corbyn over his comments. So stuff happens here too!

TBH, I couldn't care less if an advisor on a council was replaced or not. People come and go.

As for Parliamentary Democracy, IK has already said once that he will move to Presidential Democracy. He needs 2/3 for that so it is on hold unfortunately. And public would welcome it, when that referendum is held.

 

[313ghazi]

UK is secular, Pakistan is officially an Islamic Republic. Very different nations and people.

Plus the jews are after the labour leader Corbyn over his comments. So stuff happens here too!

TBH, I couldn't care less if an advisor on a council was replaced or not. People come and go.

As for Parliamentary Democracy, IK has already said once that he will move to Presidential Democracy. He needs 2/3 for that so it is on hold unfortunately. And public would welcome it, when that referendum is held.

So in an Islamic republic persecution of minorities is acceptable and in a secular state it isn't?

If the man is a criminal, punish him for his crime. We have laws against blasphemy and apostasy. If he is not a criminal, then do not persecute him. Riaset-e-Madina was not devoid of insaaf.

 

[Verve]

So in an Islamic republic persecution of minorities is acceptable and in a secular state it isn't?

If the man is a criminal, punish him for his crime. We have laws against blasphemy and apostasy. If he is not a criminal, then do not persecute him. Riaset-e-Madina was not devoid of insaaf.

How is removing a person from an advisory post a persecution? His services are no longer wanted and he was let go. Happens everyday in millions of businesses. People do not get on, people have different views and opinions, and they are let go.

Part of everyday life. But some want to make a huge fuss about it just because it happened in Pakistan.

Did you know that Ahmadis have their own box in the Equal Opportunity form here? I don't see any cries of persecution against the UK gov by Ahmadis for differentiating them from muslims? Or maybe they wanted to be identified separately?

 

[313ghazi]

How is removing a person from an advisory post a persecution? His services are no longer wanted and he was let go. Happens everyday in millions of businesses. People do not get on, people have different views and opinions, and they are let go.

Part of everyday life. But some want to make a huge fuss about it just because it happened in Pakistan.

Did you know that Ahmadis have their own box in the Equal Opportunity form here? I don't see any cries of persecution against the UK gov by Ahmadis for differentiating them from muslims? Or maybe they wanted to be identified separately?

He was offered a role, within 48 hours the offer was revoked because of public pressure about his religious views. That's not normal. He didn't even have the opportunity to take on the role, or do any work. It has nothing to do with the role or his performance related to it.

At this point you're just being silly. Did he ask to be identified as a Muslim in order to take this job?