MFN status to ruin agriculture industry

[harshad]

if you dont want to give MFN status to india then just dont give it,why cry buckets over it day in and day out

 

[ajpirzada]

so farmers in pakistan will get cheap urea...
why do u want to produce urea just for the sake of producing it? use the precious gas for some other gud use.....

and consumers in pakistan will get cheap food...

food prices will come down... poor benefits and feudal lords with mills etc will go to hell.

wats the problem?

 

[Bang Galore]

The position that many Pakistanis who oppose the granting of MFN take is both silly & contradictory. They first say that the local industry,agriculture..etc will be wiped out if MFN is granted to India. Somewhere in their ranting, they will ask for the solution of the Kashmir issue before MFN is given. What is the connection? If MFN will wipe you out completely, why would a solution to Kashmir make any difference? Does it make getting destroyed more acceptable? Standard trash talk!

 

[SBD-3]

Man are you from mars, you don't know that producers are the ones who get the least of the pie.
Producing Milk is a costly business, it needs labour, the cows need oil cake, paddy dust, and good gracing and at the end the government companies which buy and sell to the consumers get the milk from producers at a price that does not even tally with the cost of producing it in the first place.
When consumers are ready to buy coco cola at Rs 40 a liter, why not the consumers not ready to accept that the milk is more worth than coke.

You post is all over the place, i would suggest sorting out thoughts before making a post, but anyways. If you would have heard the word "consumer theory" (or you can read though any good microeconomics book) that
1- Utility is subjective and dependent upon relative perferences, which are heterogenous and thus drives consumer surplus (i.e. Welfare) For example say we have two consumers i.e. X and Y with two products i.e. Milk and Coke the utility functions may go U(M,C)= M^0.5 C^0.5 while the otherone may have U(M,C)= M^0.3 C^0.7 means second consumer prefers more cola than the first one thus be willing to pay a higher price for the cola than milk as against consumer 1 which treats both equally or a otherwise. So if you think milk be preferrable always, its not necessarily true.
2- Milk prices have drastically picked up in Pakistan and milk now trades at around 75Rs. Secondly, the most of the milk now is taken away by dairy corporations from farmers. So its not the case that producers deserve more. In theory, the welfare of consumer and producer come at the cost of each other, the consumer surplus increases at the cost of producer surplus (surplus can be considered as a gauge of welfare) likewise.

After all the middle man is the one who gets the most, the producers loose, the consumers loose only the middle men gain.
This situation is not only with milk, but for any agri product to take the case is the same.

This not always the case as i said for the milk industry, there is no middleman channel, for fruits and vegitables, there is. But the global food prices have surged around 34% in just one year (FY11) there is certainly a passthrough to the producers.

The minimum support price is not there for perishable agri products and if that is fixed by the government, its lower than the production cost of the products.
This is the reason why the number of farmers commit sucuide, has there been a case where the middle men, and the end consumer commit sucide because of price raise, NO.

I dont know about India, but in Pakistan, at times the support price even exceeded that of international prices of wheat. The farmer can either sell the wheat to government on support price or sell it in the market (floor mills) at market prices if they are higher. I havent heard a single suicide in Pakistan of late....I dont know about India though

Lets come to the case of consumers, today the salary of every one has increase.
A skilled mason is charging Rs 600 a day, a software engineer gets over Rs 3000 a day, the government employees get much higger.So when the spending capacity of individuals increase, what they do, they start trading their money on non-esential commodities such as CAR, jwells, etc. my question is why are they complaining when food prices raise and why are they not complaining when gold price raises?

1- Can you tell me who pays that much? i would love to work there
2- Government compensation is usually below the private sector compensation.
3- We dont buy car each day, we dont shop gold every evening, we dont buy a house every morning. But we do buy milk everyday, we do buy grocery every evening, we do take wheat in every meal, we do take eggs in every breakfast. Do one thing, calculate your income spent on these things and they compare it with your expenditure on other things that you mentioned...You ll get your answer why would you like to voice over these things than those.

come on man, the farmers are not selfish. they just make a living by doing social service(producing the essential commodities) for our nation.
Amd is this the way we treat them? telling that they are steeling money from consumers.

Okey, if you're so curious about the welfare of farmers then promise me one thing, You ll buy milk, bread,wheat,grocery and all other eatables at double the market price.....can you promise me? (at least for the sake of "innocent" farmers)

Your posts shows the level of ignorance that you have about agri.

nach na janay angan terha

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

if you dont want to give MFN status to india then just dont give it,why cry buckets over it day in and day out

You just stole my words!!

Just take it back no need to cry everyday or another.!!

 

[BATMAN]

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