MERL - UIT paving the way to make Pakistan's first indigenous processor

[jamahir]

No one is going to create their own instruction set these days so lets get that nonsense off the table

Why is it nonsense ? Please read post# 29.

And please note that a good part of core instruction sets of different processors do resemble each other.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Why is it nonsense ? Please read post# 29.

And please note that a good part of core instruction sets of different processors do resemble each other.

Post #29 is clueless about the practicalities of getting a new instruction set off the ground and useable as a long live entity....

Dont confuse a pet project with the practical realities of modern commerce...

 

[jamahir]

Post #29 is clueless about the practicalities of getting a new instruction set off the ground and useable as a long live entity....

Dont confuse a pet project with the practical realities of modern commerce...

Modern commerce and practicalities, eh ? Below is from my post# 14 :

I agree that the ecosystem is also important so I will tell you what I am going to do. For my OS I will write an emulator for the IBM PC architecture just like the Bochs emulator ( webpage ). The emulator will allow running of current x86 OS' like Windows and Linux, albeit probably slowly, but the ecosystem is thus enabled on my new platform.

Will this convince you, at least to an extent ? Don't be a defeatist.

 

[Syed1.]

A tiny tiny step in the right direction for sure. But, tiny and overblown. A university grade project under Google sponsorship it seems.

No one is going to create their own instruction set these days so lets get that nonsense off the table, either it is licensed or open sourced instruction sets based off ie x86, ARM and MIPS/RISC-V or its a dead end. You have to tie your product into an existing ecosystem for it to be successful otherwise you are at a dead end.

You would have thought, as part of the Azm programme, that they would need custom SOC's for it ?

Pakistan is so far behind in electronics engineering design and development it is not funny. A few UK universitites exceed the entire intellectual output of Pakistan's "electronics engineering design and development " capabiliites.

.... dont get me started on this topic.

This is where RISC-V comes in. It's open source. Use it as a basic building block and mould it to your heart's desire. Heck a Pakistani owned Silicon Valley company Si-Five is doing just that. They even have big operations in Pakistan.

However, we have a distinct lack of design verification and hardware engineers. We produce software engineers in bulk.

Also don't knock 'university grade projects'. Heck the RISC-V was a university project, so was the freaking internet. It's just that in the West specially America these university projects are developed, enhanced and commercialized.

 

[ARMalik]

1. Yes, like Brunei. It is a rich, Talibanic country and is much beloved of the West. And the West is handing over Afghanistan to the Taliban and leaving, with no concern as to how Taliban will destroy the basic human rights of Afghans.

Seriously dude, it is extremely shameful and disgraceful for Indians to mention human rights of Afghan people sitting hundreds of miles away from you in another country when hundreds and thousands of Kashmirs are being locked and killed like animals by indian security soldiers on the behest of indian government and majority hindus. You people are the very definition of Fraudsters and hypocrites.

 

[jamahir]

Seriously dude, it is extremely shameful and disgraceful for Indians to mention human rights of Afghan people sitting hundreds of miles away from you in another country when hundreds and thousands of Kashmirs are being locked and killed like animals by indian security soldiers on the behest of indian government and majority hindus. You people are the very definition of Fraudsters and hypocrites.

Have you never come across my posts ? I agree about the human rights violations in Kashmir and the need towards a solution which will create a peaceful atmosphere there for :

1. Not only for its Muslims but also for its Sikhs and remaining Hindus and the return of the Pandits.

2. Removal of the 700,000 military and paramilitary forces personnel.

3. A final peace settlement about this issue between India and Pakistan.

I have written a solution which I humbly think can not only resolve Kashmir but also remove the antagonism between India and Pakistan. Please read it here.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

I have written a solution which I humbly think can not only resolve Kashmir but also remove the antagonism between India and Pakistan. Please read it here.

how does this solution meet the demands of Kashmiris?

 

[jamahir]

@PakistaniAtBahrain, I will reply to your post tomorrow in the Kashmir thread.

 

[fitpOsitive]

We need better policies. We already have enough potential.
And also need a major education overhaul. Karachi and hyderabad can really help.

 

[jamahir]

Also don't knock 'university grade projects'. Heck the RISC-V was a university project, so was the freaking internet. It's just that in the West specially America these university projects are developed, enhanced and commercialized.

A for your point. I am irritated when people use careless words like "university project" or "hobby OS". Other than the projects you mentioned even the much respectable QNX OS was once a "hobby OS" to the extent that its two designers in the early 1980s thought they had a good solution for a reliable OS for industrial applications especially. These two "hobbyist" people stood their ground against commercially available products.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

A tiny tiny step in the right direction for sure. But, tiny and overblown. A university grade project under Google sponsorship it seems.

No one is going to create their own instruction set these days so lets get that nonsense off the table, either it is licensed or open sourced instruction sets based off ie x86, ARM and MIPS/RISC-V or its a dead end. You have to tie your product into an existing ecosystem for it to be successful otherwise you are at a dead end.

You would have thought, as part of the Azm programme, that they would need custom SOC's for it ?

Pakistan is so far behind in electronics engineering design and development it is not funny. A few UK universitites exceed the entire intellectual output of Pakistan's "electronics engineering design and development " capabiliites.

.... dont get me started on this topic.

Its RISC-V based