Meeting India's military challenge

[Trichy]

Europe buried its problem and shook hands AFTER all disputed land was come to an agreement! the GERMANS got their rhineland back! & the polish were given their land back & so on.....you wnat peace with pakistan solve kashmir and i assure you we will have nothing left to fight on....but india will never do it....hence no peace in this region until kashmir & sir creek is solved!

So give our Land Kashmir!!! and we also Shake hands??? R u ready??

 

[Trichy]

Hi,
The prospects of India going to an all out war with Pakistan are absolutely dubious. yeah may be a small border skirmish or any other thing like that but no full scale war, as Pakistan is completely aware of the fact that Pakistan cannot take on India under present circumstances so the last option that would strike Pakistani policy makers during a full scale war with India would be to use Nukes, because if the war occurs Indians shouldn't live in denial that Pakistan wont protect the territorial integrity of the land. So i don't think that war is an option, even a small nuclear bomb can cause massive destruction and the number of bombs possessed by Pakistan are unknown so no sane country would dare to disrupt the nuclear environment

We Don't get worried about Ur nukes. B'cos u must worried about our PAD/AAD

 

[Trichy]

okkkkkkk this thread has turned into a MEASURING contest as usual!!!

however, see to cut it short a war if it happens pakistan is not IRAQ or PALESTIAN that it would be a cake walk & india is surely not US that will use hi tech gadgets to knock out MOUNTAINS or innocent civilians & call it "victory"!

war would be bloody for both sides india will be made to pay for every inch it dreams about having! & pakistan will surely feel what the french felt at VERDUN in the 1st world war!

so instead of having wet dreams here about a war between the two nations let's just read this article & understand that both sides will suffer equally and let's just leave it at that!

Buddy they also said tha same line befor the war, what happens now

 

[Dazzler]

Waste of bandwidth!!

 

[ice_man]

Buddy they also said tha same line befor the war, what happens now

which war? what u talking about?

 

[ice_man]

Europe solved all there problem because of only one reason nearly 100% education among European ppl this is not the case in India and Pakistan politician on both sides are using and will us Kashmir issue as vote policy

my point is there is no solution to Kashmir issue untill there is 100% literacy on both side then only ppl can understand than negotiating issues over table is much easier than taking things to war field

but i will have to say that situation is worse in pak side (my opinion)here in india hardliner bjp came to power only once while in pak whatever is the reason military (hardliner) ruled country for 30 years we also have very hardliner speakers like Bal Thackeray but he is not as popular as zaid hamid in pakistan (nothing against zaid hamid) infact Bal Thackeray is not even in power in his own state and i know after reading this many pak members will raise question about modi in gujrat yes he is in power but not because he is hardliner he is in power because of his growth pocily in gujrat (
gujrat is fastest growing state in india even better than maharastra )
bjp has lost its complete ground in uttarprades hindu majority state where bjp got the oppurtunity to gain power to center bjp lost in UP not because it daviated from hardliner policy because they didnt do much for state ppl in india will give vote to the party once , if they perform they will be back in power if they dont they will have to sit in opposition which is not the case with pakistan. no one in pakistan today can guarantee that next ruler in pakistan is going to be democratic or dictator


at last it is not possible for pakistan to win kashmir from india and indian is not in position to risk nuclear war with pakistan thus best resolution to kashmir is accept LOC as international border
thnx

shekhar 9 posts & you have wrote down the press RELEASE OF NDTV,ZEE NEWS & STAR TV! please go read threads on this topic before you comment.

stop trying to be a youtube & bharat rakshak warrior!

1) In paistan no one gets votes on kashmir issue! no one really campaigns saying i will get kashmir infact if that is the only thing they campaign on they will never win an election!

2) Bal Thackrey,Varun Gandhi, Narinder MODI babu bajrangi, Bharat verma! these are just names i want to throw around at you before you come back with zaid hamid & his popularity! for god sake zaid hamid is not even a politican!

3) no one wants to win kashmir we want kashmir the RIGHT TO CHOOSE! the right of self determination! that was what we agreed in 1947 & that is what nehru promised the UN!

accepting LoC hmmmm i got a similar proposition why don't you just withdraw your forces and let us walk into srinagar? would you accept it? NO ofcourse not well my friend same way we will not accept LoC! end of discussion!


now please go around this forum pick up & read up on huge debates regarding all your points! before you comment your thoughts which have been discussed in detail by others!

 

[Peregrine]

By Trichy" We Don't get worried about Ur nukes. B'cos u must worried about our PAD/AAD"
HI
You dont worry about our nukes??? Oh look a flying pig u better go catch it gift it to our american buds BY THE WAY I DIDNT MENTION ANY BODY GETTING WORRIED, all i said was that no sane country would wanna disrupt the status quo in a nuclear environment so Thanks for answering by saying u will disrupt it and as nuclear weapons dont worry indians did u guys develop some nuclear repellent genes please be rational while you are replying dont reply just for the sake that ur an indian and ur replying to a pakistani

 

[su-47]

We Don't get worried about Ur nukes. B'cos u must worried about our PAD/AAD

I have to disagree buddy. India is still scared of pak nukes. PAD, AAD and s-300 systems don't guarantee total defence against nukes. they just reduce the chance of a nuclear warhead getting through.

There are currently no ABM systems that eliminate a missile threat. They just reduce the chance of a missile or warhead getting through. The systems can be overcome with multiple warheads.

 

[Laughing Buddha]

Bhaisaab

I would request all the recipient of this debate to watch the movie "Thread" and then decide on nuclear bomb....

As far as my knowledge goes no country wants that... and It was one of the biggest mistake ever human discovered to kill itself.

As per the latest CIA calculation Indian has ready approx 234 Nuclear bomb which can be assembled in less than 36 hrs and Pakistan has approx 187 which can assembled in less than 24 hrs...India has approx 18 Nuke loaded in missile and can be fired in 15 mins from go-time.

It will take not more than 5 to 7 mins to wipe out more than 19 million innocent people who has nothing to do with politics or war from both side.

I believe most of the member here has not seen the war... My family has suffered the casualty of War... and it still haunt my Father.

 

[Trichy]

I have to disagree buddy. India is still scared of pak nukes. PAD, AAD and s-300 systems don't guarantee total defence against nukes. they just reduce the chance of a nuclear warhead getting through.

There are currently no ABM systems that eliminate a missile threat. They just reduce the chance of a missile or warhead getting through. The systems can be overcome with multiple warheads.

Brother you are a senior member first understand some basic on nukes, the first missile only Pakistan able to lunch after that India is not sitting like duck, and the world nations are not going for shopping for some under wares... so we want to stop the one or two missile is enough in that time we are in war, rest will be handle by rest of the world... nuke is just for show, else it is your own bomb under your A$$... cheers we don't get afraid or worried about it, cheeriness

some will always say nukes we have nukes like a chocolates

 

[Trichy]

By Trichy" We Don't get worried about Ur nukes. B'cos u must worried about our PAD/AAD"
HI
You dont worry about our nukes??? Oh look a flying pig u better go catch it gift it to our american buds BY THE WAY I DIDNT MENTION ANY BODY GETTING WORRIED, all i said was that no sane country would wanna disrupt the status quo in a nuclear environment so Thanks for answering by saying u will disrupt it and as nuclear weapons dont worry indians did u guys develop some nuclear repellent genes please be rational while you are replying dont reply just for the sake that ur an indian and ur replying to a pakistani

The First Mistake i Made Repeatedly is this

 

[aks]

Bhaisaab

I would request all the recipient of this debate to watch the movie "Thread" and then decide on nuclear bomb....

As far as my knowledge goes no country wants that... and It was one of the biggest mistake ever human discovered to kill itself.

As per the latest CIA calculation Indian has ready approx 234 Nuclear bomb which can be assembled in less than 36 hrs and Pakistan has approx 187 which can assembled in less than 24 hrs...India has approx 18 Nuke loaded in missile and can be fired in 15 mins from go-time.


It will take not more than 5 to 7 mins to wipe out more than 19 million innocent people who has nothing to do with politics or war from both side.

I believe most of the member here has not seen the war... My family has suffered the casualty of War... and it still haunt my Father.

if i am not wrong most of our missiles xcept ghauri series all are based on solid fuel tech which is more easy n speedy to make missile ready for launch n destroy target

all of our short range missiles are based on solid fuel tech while ur prithvi is based on liquid fuel

 

[aks]

We Don't get worried about Ur nukes. B'cos u must worried about our PAD/AAD

shaheen 2 have multiple independently targeted re-entry vehicle (MIRV) which can make it immensely problematic for existing anti-ballistic missile (ABM) defence systems to successfully intercept the missile.

 

[aks]

I have to disagree buddy. India is still scared of pak nukes. PAD, AAD and s-300 systems don't guarantee total defence against nukes. they just reduce the chance of a nuclear warhead getting through.

There are currently no ABM systems that eliminate a missile threat. They just reduce the chance of a missile or warhead getting through. The systems can be overcome with multiple warheads.

yeah right in iraq war americ's ABM was unable to protect Kuwait from Iraqi's old scud missile that missile was old here indians have to face missiles with new tech

 

[su-47]

yeah right in iraq war americ's ABM was unable to protect Kuwait from Iraqi's old scud missile that missile was old here indians have to face missiles with new tech

Dude, read my post again. Thats pretty much what I've been saying: that ABM can't give full defence against missiles.

U have just agreed with me by pretending to disagree with me!