Meet Pakistani Female Commandos

[syedali73]

I know these female commandos which some members think will fight TTP directly. They come with male commandos when ever there is a search op in slums etc and their job is to aid in house searches and body searching females, that's it. When ever there is a terrorist attack , every body calls army for help even their male counterparts are on outer cordons.

What was the need to make lady doctors of army airborne qualified? Well we did that because perhaps we are a rich nation with spare money and resources. A member even suggested that casualties would have been less if these ladies went in lal masjid instead of ssg, well what can I say I am speech less to that.

On average, of every 100 female doctors that graduate, 50% of them do not continue with their medical career for so and so reasons (Female doctors becoming 'trophy' wives: Is quota the right move? - Blogs - DAWN.COM ), which means 50% of the scarce resources of this poor nation went in training them are lost. The situation is even worst for other disciplines, and extremely bad for non-professional (MA, MSc -type degrees) disciplines. Problem is, we are too good (or worst?) at mimicking West without taking into account our own cultural/societal dynamics that are 180o apposite to that of the West. In our society, males are the prime if not the sole earners, and I think many of them are deprived from their right to run their families when situation like this (50% not continuing with career) takes place. I am not at all apposing education for females or their representation in jobs, but there has to be a healthy balance, not based on how it is in the West, but in accordance to our cultural and societal norms. I do not know but how many of these female soldiers would continue with their careers? how well they'll manage between family and their apparently risky and physically (and psychologically) demanding job profile?

 

[Icarus]

Befor that, it was th

To body search a female or search houses, do you need all that fancy training? Why are they firing rpgs and other heavy weapons? Just give nominal training for the work which they will do only. We already made lady army doctors airborne qualified when we all know that they will never do such a stuff in real war. We are known to waste more money than required for anything.

Because training them along the same lines as their male counterparts is essential towards ensuring that we have cohesive fighting force, there cannot be a weak link in a commando formation even if it is a Police Commando formation. Your argument hinges exclusively on 'real war' scenario. Well, in the present circumstances, chances are that they will not be sent to 'real war' but it may just come to them. If the police commandos are ambushed, they would be fighting on a much more even plane if the ladies were able to fend for themselves rather than being liabilities. The same goes for airborne lady doctors, it won't hurt having para-qualified lady doctors. The policymaker's ideation goes far beyond me or you, they get paid to imagine scenarios that me and you deem impossible and scoff at. Did you know that the USA has a battle plan for a nuclear war with Canada? Now, it might seem that its a waste of time and resources to frame a battle plan with a belligerent, nuclear Canada but like I said, it never hurts to be prepared.

 

[FunkyGen]

aurtoon k pas damagh nai hota. Or pathano k pas thora sa b nai hota.

hahaha you're funny

 

[Yazp]

Yes, dead seriously. Have all the eligible males of Pakistan got jobs that we are now hiring females as security personnel? What kind of joke is this?

This might be psychological warfare against the Taliban, Much like how the Syrian Army and the YPG of Kurdistan are taking in Females against Wahabbis.
According to them, getting killed by a woman = no 72 virgins or heaven.

And I think Pakistan is taking a step in the right direction. Most of the Males who sit at home, are jobless because of their Laziness and a Cancer to Pakistan (They should be shot). It obviously won't hurt having Conscription of Men and Women alike. That might even clear the radicals. Look at Turkey or Azerbaijan they both have a sizable amount of females in their armies.
Also you sound sexist. That's wrong. Those "Burka commandos" will kick your Arse in hand to hand combat or even with guns and you should respect them as your sisters in the Military/Police (They're clearly more useful to the nation than you) , not call them a "Waste" or a "joke". Unless ofcourse you want to end up like Saudi Arabia.

 

[syedali73]

This might be psychological warfare against the Taliban, Much like how the Syrian Army and the YPG of Kurdistan are taking in Females against Wahabbis.
According to them, getting killed by a woman = no 72 virgins or heaven.

And I think Pakistan is taking a step in the right direction. Most of the Males who sit at home, are jobless because of their Laziness and a Cancer to Pakistan (They should be shot). It obviously won't hurt having Conscription of Men and Women alike. That might even clear the radicals. Look at Turkey or Azerbaijan they both have a sizable amount of females in their armies.
Also you sound sexist. That's wrong. Those "Burka commandos" will kick your Arse in hand to hand combat or even with guns and you should respect them as your sisters, not call them a "Waste" or a "joke".

Please refer to post #47. Thanks.

 

[Yazp]

Please refer to post #47. Thanks.

Seen it, The difference between them is these women are actually doing something by kicking taliban ***, as opposed to the rest.

 

[syedali73]

The policymaker's ideation goes far beyond me or you, they get paid to imagine scenarios that me and you deem impossible and scoff at.

And the record of our so-called 'professional' policy makers (you are perhaps referring to GHQ folks) is anything but impeccable whether it was 1962, or 1965, or 1971, or Afghan jihad (actually fasad), Kargil, you name it.

Seen it, The difference between them is these women are actually doing something by kicking taliban ***, as opposed to the rest.

They are not kicking no Taliban. This may be your wishful thinking but that is all it is.

 

[Yazp]

They are not kicking no Taliban. This may be your wishful thinking but that is all it is.

How can you be so sure, Atleast they are contributing to the cause, Not all military personnel get into combat either, Do you support the countries armed forces?

 

[syedali73]

How can you be so sure, Atleast they are contributing to the cause, Not all military personnel get into combat either, Do you support the countries armed forces?

How can you be so sure? Of-course I support armed forces but those that are capable of doing the job and not just PR. Inducting females in combat role is PR, and very expensive PR. Our resources are scarce and must be spent wisely. What happened to the batch of lady fighter pilots inducted in the time of Musharraf?

 

[Yazp]

You had me for a second, Turns out we only have burka commandos. These are Palestinian Presidential Guards, Not Pakistanis at all!, But I have to admit, Palestine, GG on the Female commandos!

How can you be so sure? Of-course I support armed forces but those that are capable of doing the job and not just PR. Inducting females in combat role is PR, and very expensive PR. Our resources are scarce and must be spent wisely. What happened to the batch of lady fighter pilots inducted in the time of Musharraf?

They must be flying? What else do you think people do in the Airforce?

 

[RealNapster]

The last picture in the thread is those of Palestinians Female Police ...!

mistake accepted brother.. unable to Edit my post otherwise i would have removed it.. thanks for Pointing my mistake

You had me for a second, Turns out we only have burka commandos. These are Palestinian Presidential Guards, Not Pakistanis at all!, But I have to admit, Palestine, GG on the Female commandos! View attachment 222432



mistake accepted brother.. unable to Edit my post otherwise i would have removed it.. thanks for Pointing my mistake

hahaha you're funny

and also bias

 

[Zibago]

Try to think why even US does not allow females in combat roles(army). Many young strong patriotic males are jobless while you are saying that a female force should fight with TTP. They are not going to even fight dacoits, let alone TTP bibi. You are mistaken.

Women are needed for house raids

In karachi rangers use women for house raids

Rangers

Army

Airforce

How can you be so sure? Of-course I support armed forces but those that are capable of doing the job and not just PR. Inducting females in combat role is PR, and very expensive PR. Our resources are scarce and must be spent wisely. What happened to the batch of lady fighter pilots inducted in the time of Musharraf?

Female staff is needed for house raids and to tackle lal masjid like scenarios

 

[Psychic]

@Icarus @Yazp Icarus you are thinking only from a police commando point of view while I am thinking what will these females do, they will atmost search houses and ladies that's all because I have seen them in action there job is or what they will do is nowhere near to what you are implying in your post. When there are shots fired, only men go in I have countless of examples to share. I say again that the usual female empowerment propaganda is not useful for us and is wastage of resources. And try to think why an infantry soldier does not know how to drive a tank and even swimming is not compulsory or atleast was not compulsory in the older days. They will only search houses within big cities and secure areas in densly populated slums and they wont ever need to fire AGL and rpg in densly populated slums. Our policy makers are known to make stupid decessions and then regret over those desisions. Women cannot fight like men look at USA just. m.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2014/0104/Just-three-pull-ups-Too-many-for-women-in-the-Marine-Corps A weak boy can do that.

Women are needed

Female staff is needed for house raids and to tackle lal masjid like scenarios

Islamabad female police did the job well.

How can you be so sure? Of-course I support armed forces but those that are capable of doing the job and not just PR. Inducting females in combat role is PR, and very expensive PR. Our resources are scarce and must be spent wisely. What happened to the batch of lady fighter pilots inducted in the time of Musharraf?

It is more like state propaganda and the one which public is buying.

 

[Yazp]

AGL and rpg

as long as it can remove stray jihadi kebabs i have no problems with it. Plus our infantry should buy some more Granatmaschinenwaffes. Those 30mm HE Granats fired from the Heckler and Koch GMG must really remove kebab.
Jokes apart, But if we all follow your "why do we need those anyways" idea, Why does Pakistan need nuclear bombs? We can't use it without butchering and murdering everything and anything inside a city filled with civillians, Also even If we launch them it'd be mutual annihilation of both! Plus I doubt training a few women as much needed role models against Terrorism in KPK hurts as much as your Politicians are eating up! You start from the bigger liability then go down, Even if these commandos are liability in the first place.

 

[Icarus]

And the record of our so-called 'professional' policy makers (you are perhaps referring to GHQ folks) is anything but impeccable whether it was 1962, or 1965, or 1971, or Afghan jihad (actually fasad), Kargil, you name it.

That's because you and I have the gift, or rather the curse of foresight, these people had to interpret the consequences of their actions based purely on assumption and I wouldn't be as pessimistic as you about their success. We have had our share of days under the sun thanks to some very well thought out maneuvers, the support for a nascent People's Republic of China and our stance on the FMTC being just two of the situations.

@Icarus @Yazp Icarus you are thinking only from a police commando point of view while I am thinking what will these females do, they will atmost search houses and ladies that's all because I have seen them in action there job is or what they will do is nowhere near to what you are implying in your post. When there are shots fired, only men go in I have countless of examples to share. I say again that the usual female empowerment propaganda is not useful for us and is wastage of resources. And try to think why an infantry soldier does not know how to drive a tank and even swimming is not compulsory or atleast was not compulsory in the older days. They will only search houses within big cities and secure areas in densly populated slums and they wont ever need to fire AGL and rpg in densly populated slums. Our policy makers are known to make stupid decessions and then regret over those desisions. Women cannot fight like men look at USA just. m.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2014/0104/Just-three-pull-ups-Too-many-for-women-in-the-Marine-Corps A weak boy can do that.

I disagree with the assumption that women cannot fight like men, if it were hand to hand then I would be inclined to agree with you but that too in most cases, not all. However, the nature of fighting we are looking at, with 12.7s and RPGs have little to do with physical strength or speed, its about who is more effective behind the sights and that has nothing to do with gender. I have seen some very good women shooters.