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Meet Europe's deadliest fighter, the Su-35 Super Flanker

That's actually the Typhoon, something which was built an interceptor designed to operate in an environment with multiple flankers.

Eurofighter vs SU-35
 
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Reality talk, with all due respect to Russian's products but it's no where near the American in terms of electronics.

Today the number one factor is EW and also the helmets these two can reduce the others fighters agility since the helmet for example has the ability to launch missile without the missile itself lock on the target this is incrudible ability tell if any Russians fighter possess this capability.

I read that one m2k of the french on Kosovo could defeat an amram with it's jamming pod do you think Russians has this capability tell me please.


Su-27 was the first fighter jet to incorporate helmet sight cueing way back in the 1980s. The west is a newcomer when it comes to HMS. Su-27's HMS works in conjunction with the IRST which Su-27 is also one of the first to incorporate back in the 1980s. Even today F-22 does not have IRST.

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Here's something about Su-35's EW system.

The addition of the electronic attack (EA) capability complicates matters for Western fighters because the Su-35’s advanced digital radio frequency memory jammers can seriously degrade the performance of friendly radars. It also effectively blinds the onboard radars found onboard American-made air-to-air missiles like the AIM-120 AMRAAM.

Killer in the Sky: Russia's Deadly Su-35 Fighter | The National Interest
 
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Su-27 was the first fighter jet to incorporate helmet sight cueing way back in the 1980s. The west is a newcomer when it comes to HMS.

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But is the new Russians HMS as good as the new western newcomers.

How about the OLS is it as good as the Eurofighters or the Rafale's one?.

ey to be honest I start believe that chinese fighters even better.
 
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But is the new Russians HMS as good as the new western newcomers.

How about the OLS is it as good as the Eurofighters or the Rafale's one?.

ey to be honest I start believe that chinese fighters even better.


Here's something about Su-35's EW system.

The addition of the electronic attack (EA) capability complicates matters for Western fighters because the Su-35’s advanced digital radio frequency memory jammers can seriously degrade the performance of friendly radars. It also effectively blinds the onboard radars found onboard American-made air-to-air missiles like the AIM-120 AMRAAM.

Killer in the Sky: Russia's Deadly Su-35 Fighter | The National Interest
 
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Here's something about Su-35's EW system.

The addition of the electronic attack (EA) capability complicates matters for Western fighters because the Su-35’s advanced digital radio frequency memory jammers can seriously degrade the performance of friendly radars. It also effectively blinds the onboard radars found onboard American-made air-to-air missiles like the AIM-120 AMRAAM.

Killer in the Sky: Russia's Deadly Su-35 Fighter | The National Interest
May be.
 
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Must be. 8-) Again, this thread is about Su-35 and Europe. Its closest rivals are Typhoon and Rafale.

That's actually the Typhoon, something which was built an interceptor designed to operate in an environment with multiple flankers.

Eurofighter vs SU-35


Not even accurate. Su-35 2008 version is way different from Su-35 1988 version, plus Su-35 has no canards as shown in the link.
 
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Must be. 8-) Again, this thread is about Su-35 and Europe. Its closest rivals are Typhoon and Rafale.
Look Egyptians paid heavy price to the French for their Rafale so do you think Egyptian don't care about their cash to spend it on something twice as expensive :no:.
 
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Not even accurate. Su-35 2008 version is way different from Su-35 1988 version, plus Su-35 has no canards as shown in the link.


That's been addressed.

The aircraft's counter air performance is cited as its major strength, and it is frequently cited to be “82% as effective as an F-22”.

The magic 82% number is derived from a mid nineties DERA simulation against a postulated Su-35 threat. The number is based upon the rather unusual metric of “probability of successful engagement” in BVR combat, rating the F-22 at 91%, the Typhoon at 82%, the F-15F (single seat E) at 60%, the Rafale at 50% and the F-15C at 43%.

The probability of a successful engagement can be translated into the more commonly used metric of a kill ratio by making some reasonable statistical assumptions, and doing this yields about 10.0:1 for the F-22A, 4.6:1 for the Typhoon, 1.5:1 for the single seat F-15E, 1:1 for the Rafale and 0.75:1 for the F-15C. So in the most common terms used, the Typhoon is by the DERA simulation about half as combat effective as the F-22A, about three times as combat effective as the F-15F, about five times as effective as the Rafale and 6 times as effective as the F-15C. If we compare this with cited USAF claims rating the F-22A as 10-15 times as combat effective as the F-15C in BVR engagements, this means that the DERA study roughly agrees with USAF assessments of F-22A vs F-15C combat effectiveness. The detailed assumptions applied to this study have not been disclosed.

The validity of this study in today's environment must be questioned. Since its compilation the Russians have developed the NIIP-011M and Phazotron Zhuk-Ph phased arrays for the Su-27/30, the R-77M ramjet Adder, the extended range R-74 digital Archer, 2D and 3D thrust vectoring nozzles, higher thrust AL-31 engine derivatives, and active radar seekers for the R-27 Alamo, as well as fielding an anti-radiation variant of the Alamo. The F-22A is likely to be shooting the ERAAM, and some USAF F-15Cs are being fitted with active phased arrays, with the likely prospect of getting ERAAMs as well, or even a ramjet AMRAAM variant. Therefore it is likely that most of the supporting assumptions used in the study are very stale, if not irrelevant. Until Typhoons are equipped with the AMSAR and Meteor, the projected 4.6:1 BVR kill ratio is by any measure optimistic, against an evolved Su-30 variant

Eurofighter Typhoon - Demon or Lemon?

Eurofighter RAF have addressed the short-comings

Eurofighter Typhoon | FURTHER METEOR FIRING TRIALS BEGIN FOR TYPHOON

RUSI - UK Funding for ‘Captor-E’ AESA Radar Announced – Better Late than Never
 
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Look Egyptians paid heavy price to the French for their Rafale so do you think Egyptian don't care about their cash to spend it on something twice as expensive :no:.


Sisi might worship Frenchies who are masters at surrendering, I don't. :enjoy:

Irbis E PESA

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AL-41F1S engine rated 32,000 lb most powerful fighter jet engine in Europe

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Do you think they'd support any further weapon system's sale to Pakistan? Or even have a good view of the Pakistani public based on these silly posts?

Oh man! You got damn serious. As you said its just posts from people like us. They might be silly. Neither US nor Pakistan govt making decisions based on these 'silly' posts.

So chill.
 
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Oh man! You got damn serious. As you said its just posts from people like us. They might be silly. Neither US nor Pakistan govt making decisions based on these 'silly' posts.

So chill.

lol, I am chilled. But what I was trying to reach that guy, was courtesy and niceness goes a LONG way. I know general stance on US- Pakistan relationship is negative inside Pakistan. Always has been. But writing these kind of posts would only make it worst. We all have responsibility to create a positive image, even in tensions. That way, one by one, more mutual understanding grows.
Take a look at the Indians (I appreciate them for certain things and this is one of those things), I know majority of them dislike the US and her policies. BUT....because of their country's interest, they'll NEVER say it out in the open. They'll always say nice things about the US as the US has done a lot for them. So that sentiment goes a LONG way.
 
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an overrated aircraft``very overrated
 
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Russian plane are made with different philosophy in mind. They are huge, Highly maneuverable, carries a huge load, uses big (In SIze ) Radar to make up a little bit of inferiority in range compared to best US AESA radars. They super maneuvers. Su 35 has a very Low RCS too.
 
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Export does not mean it's better. J-7 has much better export success than Typhoon, does not mean J-7 is better. Su-35 is very capable, very expensive. Currently Su-35 > Typhoon.


you gotta be a little realistic.
 
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Russian plane are made with different philosophy in mind. They are huge, Highly maneuverable, carries a huge load, uses big (In SIze ) Radar to make up a little bit of inferiority in range compared to best US AESA radars. They super maneuvers. Su 35 has a very Low RCS too.


Its because of their huge landmass they need such big fighters . Secondly due to their massive petroleum production they dont need very efficient engines.
 
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