Mechanised Divisions Pakistan Army

[Raja Porus]

Reads" 1st OTR of Life". What does it mean? I also saw it on some SP guns some time back

 

[iLION12345_1]

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Reads" 1st OTR of Life". What does it mean? I also saw it on some SP guns some time back

It says first “QTR” (quarter) of life.

Gun barrels have a service life after which they need to be replaced, and they also need to be checked throughly after a certain amount of usage, (say after first quarter of life is over, like you would service a car after every few thousand kilometers), for damage or deformation and such.
These barrels have to withstand very high pressures and temperatures and hence miniature cracks or deformations can be formed in them which can negatively effect accuracy and performance or even cause explosions inside the barrel in extreme cases which can be deadly. Since these tanks are new and not being used currently, all these barrels are in their first quarter of life.

 

[Raja Porus]

It says first “QTR” (quarter) of life.

Gun barrels have a service life after which they need to be replaced, and they also need to be checked throughly after a certain amount of usage, (say after first quarter of life is over, like you would service a car after every few thousand kilometers), for damage or deformation and such.
These barrels have to withstand very high pressures and temperatures and hence miniature cracks or deformations can be formed in them which can negatively effect accuracy and performance or even cause explosions inside the barrel in extreme cases which can be deadly. Since these tanks are new and not being used currently, all these barrels are in their first quarter of life.

Thank you very much, sir.

 

[iLION12345_1]

@PanzerKiel Which tank other than our own and locally produced will do well in our operation areas ?

Depends on which area exactly as Pakistani terrain is quite diverse. As Sir Panzerkiel mentioned mountains are generally not suited for usage of tanks, at least not in their usual role (some tanks are used by PA as mobile pillboxes along Pak-Afghan border at very high altitudes).

Tanks can be used at high-altitude plains, like the ones at ladakh between india and China, where both countries used tanks recently, Pakistan does not have such terrain.

For the Plains of Punjab and the Deserts of Sindh a similar kind of tank would work, it would just need to withstand higher temperatures further south. All the tanks in our inventory are suited to this role and tanks like the abrams would also be perfectly suited to this role, maybe even better than what we have, granted we have the logistics to support this, as US does. The abrams performed quite well in the deserts of Iran and Iraq, and also in other middle eastern conflicts, while it is true that early abrams models had issues with their engines and filters due to the excessive sand, this was quickly fixed in the later models as US would be seeing a lot of conflict in such areas. Similarly Russia also has very diverse terrains including deserts and their tanks would be particularly well suited to such roles (in the right hands, hence excluding Iraqi T72s and such), with easier logistics due to weight.

Some tanks which are built by countries like South Korea or the European nations may be less suited to desert warfare as they have less of this kind of terrain and more plains or Urban areas, hence the German Leo 2 has specific urban warfare packages and would excel at such warfare.

 

[Raja Porus]

German Leo 2 has specific urban warfare packages and would excel at such warfare.

Or "Tank Urban Survival Kit"(TUSK) for Abrams. This modification can even be done by the crew in operational areas
Normal abrams:

Abrams with TUSK:
(The cylindrical shaped objects are ERA for protection at all angles)

Additional attachments int the form.of TUSK:

 

[Raja Porus]

Our recce regts of armd divs( don't know if mech divs have them) have 36 tanks, only 8 short of a complete regt. Why not buy 4 more tanks (as 4 are already there as divisional reserve) and form a complete regt as a reserve. It can supplement an attack, support another inf div without decreasing the effectiveness of the armd div or most importantly replace a regt that may have been badly bashed by the enemy and put out of work. It will provide great flexibility and relaxation as well. Recce, if necessary, can be done by drones, LATs as they are also now equipped with M113s.
@PanzerKiel @Signalian

 

[CriticalThought]

Our recce regts of armd divs( don't know if mech divs have them) have 36 tanks, only 8 short of a complete regt. Why not buy 4 more tanks (as 4 are already there as divisional reserve) and form a complete regt as a reserve. It can supplement an attack, support another inf div without decreasing the effectiveness of the armd div or most importantly replace a regt that may have been badly bashed by the enemy and put out of work. It will provide great flexibility and relaxation as well. Recce, if necessary, can be done by drones, LATs as they are also now equipped with M113s.
@PanzerKiel @Signalian

Can you please define recce here? Is it a 'feeler' maneuver to see how the enemy responds to a small deployment to a certain area? Or to gather intel on the enemy? I would expect tanks to be completely unsuitable for the latter! Why would the army use tanks for such a purpose?

 

[PanzerKiel]

Our recce regts of armd divs( don't know if mech divs have them) have 36 tanks, only 8 short of a complete regt. Why not buy 4 more tanks (as 4 are already there as divisional reserve) and form a complete regt as a reserve. It can supplement an attack, support another inf div without decreasing the effectiveness of the armd div or most importantly replace a regt that may have been badly bashed by the enemy and put out of work. It will provide great flexibility and relaxation as well. Recce, if necessary, can be done by drones, LATs as they are also now equipped with M113s.
@PanzerKiel @Signalian

Recce units have 35 tanks..

They have a different role to play, that's why they much more heavily armed with regards to anti tank and automatic firepower than a normal armored regiment...

Recce regiment... Don't take its name in the literal sense....

LAT is not part of armored divisions, isn't equipped with tanks so it is lightly armored and cannot fulfill desired role in an armored division.

 

[Raja Porus]

regards to anti tank and automatic firepower than a normal armored regiment...

Yeah. I forgot that.. read it a couple of years back.

Can you please define recce here? Is it a 'feeler' maneuver to see how the enemy responds to a small deployment to a certain area? Or to gather intel on the enemy? I would expect tanks to be completely unsuitable for the latter! Why would the army use tanks for such a purpose?

All of the above almost but as Panzerkeil has said the word is not to be taken literally. Another thing is that tanks are/have been used for armed reconnaissance in contested and heavily defended sectors to locate weaknesses or conduct aggressive raids.

 

[farooqbhai007]

What are these Steyr's used for except towing artillery that too in limited numbers , havent seen a large amount of them any where , i presume it would be for combat logistics for mech divs

 

[Inception-06]

Yeah. I forgot that.. read it a couple of years back.

All of the above almost but as Panzerkeil has said the word is not to be taken literally. Another thing is that tanks are/have been used for armed reconnaissance in contested and heavily defended sectors to locate weaknesses or conduct aggressive raids.

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What are these Steyr's used for except towing artillery that too in limited numbers , havent seen a large amount of them any where , i presume it would be for combat logistics for mech divs

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[Raja Porus]

Guys see what I found:

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Only if I had enough money

 

[Inception-06]

Only if I had enough money

You will Inshallah !

 

[farooqbhai007]

You will Inshallah !

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[Inception-06]

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It’s not allowed and illegally. Don’t want Ruin my carrier. But as I said, Inshallah.

Nice that you also read Books, Which border wars ? About Pakistan ?