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Maybe Pakistan should start thinking about creating another nuclear power in the shape of Turkey.

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This piece should be seen in the context of the obvious coming US sanctions in the next months against Pakistan, so it wouldnt really matter even if the yanks found out.

Apart from Pakistan, Turkey has proven itself to be, time and again, the only other country amongst the Islamic world, mature, responsible, professional, capable and stable enough to be a nuclear power. The turks are proving their diplomatic will and national freedom to the world under Erdogan by standing up for certain issues. Pakistan has long since carried the mantle of bieng the sole muslim nuclearpower and we have paid very very dearly for that. Maybe it is time another nuclear power popped up to stand beside Pakistan. It would go a long way in increasing the global power of the Islamic world with not one but two extremely smart and powerful nuclear powers standing side by side in dettering our collective enemies from their nefrarious designs. Covert transfer of nuclear and advanced ballistic missle technology(MIRV and tactical straightup:D) from Pakistan to Turkey could see the latter attaining the mantle they deserve and should've got by now of standing beside the select group of nations impregnable to attack from outside forces. Heaven's know it would help Pakistan, not to be the only one. Frankly, we feel lonely in this realm.
 
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My heart says yes but my brain says no way. Even Pakistan cannot challenge the US, Russia and China at the same time because all of them - regardless of any conflict - share the same opinion on Turkey (and any other Muslim majority nation): no nukes.
 
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My heart says yes but my brain says no way. Even Pakistan cannot challenge the US, Russia and China at the same time because all of them - regardless of any conflict - share the same opinion on Turkey (and any other Muslim majority nation): no nukes.
They shared the same opinion about Pakistan, courage my friend can shape history.
 
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Turkey don't need Nukes for now, their conventional Military is powerful enough to handle any Enemy ..Nukes will bring unwanted attentions and proxies ( like it happen with Pakistan ) but for Pakistan, we don't have a choice nor we were part of NATO , we have a Enemy close to 10 times bigger in every aspect with whom we already fought 4 WARS , we have to make sure that we don't get invaded and destroyed .
 
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Turkey don't need Nukes for now, their conventional Military is powerful enough to handle any Enemy ..Nukes will bring unwanted attentions and proxies ( like it happen with Pakistan ) but for Pakistan, we don't have a choice nor we were part of NATO , we have a Enemy close to 10 times bigger in every aspect with whom we already fought 4 WARS , we have to make sure that we don't get invaded and destroyed .
With the stance Erdogan is taking, it wont be long before murica comes up with an excuse to destroy turkey, mark my words. The secular turkey they could control was muricas friend, not this pan islamic turkey under erdogan.
 
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With the stance Erdogan is taking, it wont be long before murica comes up with an excuse to destroy turkey, mark my words. The secular turkey they could control was muricas friend, not this pan islamic turkey under erdogan.

its not happening anytime soon, unless Erdogan does something bat Shit Crazy .. Turkey still have EU backing and Turkey is one of the largest contributor is NATO , their conventional forces are very strong , strongest in entire Islamic world .. unless they have a direct threat of a Invasion or Nuclear war, they can keep strengthening their conventional Firepower , Nukes are not a Rocket Science .. it wont take long Turkey will/Can get nukes if they badly wants them.
 
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its not happening anytime soon, unless Erdogan does something bat Shit Crazy .. Turkey still have EU backing and Turkey is one of the largest contributor is NATO , their conventional forces are very strong , strongest in entire Islamic world .. unless they have a direct threat of a Invasion or Nuclear war, they can keep strengthening their conventional Firepower , Nukes are not a Rocket Science .. it wont take long Turkey will/Can get nukes if they badly wants them.
That NATO thing will fall out in the near future, thier failed coup against Erdogan points out to murica shifting to plan b, dont believe me, just wait and see....turkish conventional forces cannot handle Murica and thier allies, turkey was integrated into Nato to keep the islamic narrative under check, its not under check anymore with Erdogan. You must have an idea how quickly world politics are changing, they will and cannot allow another strong Islamic country like turkey to spring up after thier failed ventures against Pakistan.
 
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That NATO thing will fall out in the near future, thier failed coup against Erdogan points out to murica shifting to plan b, dont believe me, just wait and see....turkish conventional forces cannot handle Murica and thier allies, turkey was integrated into Nato to keep the islamic narrative under check, its not under check anymore with Erdogan.

as i say only time will tell, and unless Erdogan do something really crazy , things wont change rapidly in that region . EU is on verge of a new problem a mass immigration , they need Turkey to bring the Islamic narrative in the fold.
 
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as i say only time will tell, and unless Erdogan do something really crazy , things wont change rapidly in that region . EU is on verge of a new problem a mass immigration , they need Turkey to bring the Islamic narrative in the fold.
A pro islamic and free from outside influence govt ( uncontrollable by america) is crazy and batt shit enough for the anglo saxons, that is the red line for them or didnt u know? Thier coup against Erdogan failed and backfired, do u think they will give up so easily, doesnt fit in with the character of murica, bhai yeh yanks jan nhn chorty itni asani se.
 
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With the stance Erdogan is taking, it wont be long before murica comes up with an excuse to destroy turkey, mark my words. The secular turkey they could control was muricas friend, not this pan islamic turkey under erdogan.

They already tried with the Gulenists.
 
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Not just Turkey in my opinion Indonesia and Malaysia and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Egypt and Algeria and Morocco should have nuclear weapons
 
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In the real world, it is difficult
The big 5 get the privilige of N-bomb through the victory of WWII, they control the N-bomb
N-bomb is dangerous thing for mankind, people should contained its spread

There are only 8 legalized nuclear states
India get N-bomb with support of russia, even with west to hook india
pakistan get N-bomd, i don't want to say the reason. but it will be the only nuclear power in muslim countries for long time
Israel get the N-bomb with support the west, especilly usa

AS for Nk, it is still not clear for its fate
 
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You making it out as if nukes is that alien technology that only few priveledged nations posess.

Dude, if given a free hand today, there will be at least 30 nations that can make nukes from scratch in 2 years.
They (and turkey )are not a nuclear nation by choice not because of lack of technology or finance.

Nukes are over rated anyways. Coz in every day affair we have seen non nuke nations possessing more influence on the world politics than the so called nuke nations.
 
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Not just Turkey in my opinion Indonesia and Malaysia and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Egypt and Algeria and Morocco should have nuclear weapons
Hazrat hosal karo, none of the countries u mentioned are responsible, mature and free enough to become nuclear powers. Indonesia, malaysia and bangla are too weak nor would they want such trouble, saudis and egyptians are heavily under american influence, u can go ahead n call them vessel states. The only country amongst the islamic world apart from Pakistan free, mature and strong enough to handle nukes is turkey, but knowimg u, u would probably want to give somalia some nukes, i bow to ur highness.
 
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