Mastung blast: Security Forces make big breakthrough - 2 facilitators arrested.

[my2cents]

stop comparing apple and oranges
we know what your consulates are doing in Afghanistan and who is bringing ISIS into afghanistan

Our four consulates in Afghanistan have been hit numerous times in the past decade and scores of innocent people died in the process.

We think that your ISI is in cahoots with Afghan taliban in targeting our consulates. Now you are saying that we are working with the same taliban who killed our people. Why do you think people will believe you??

 

[Baghial]

The problem is of USA air lifting them to Afghanistan. No matter how many we take out USA will keep Air lifting more. Israel wants to destabilize Sistan in Iran and for that they need destabilized west Balochistan. Solution is not bombing Afghanistan but exit of USA and India from Afghanistan.

COAS is in Quetta him self at this moment.

Why not declare all in .....to afghanistan...
How long are we goung to play cat and mouse..
Flag half mast..
Condolance messeges from COAS..
Isis understand only one language.. why not bomb afg. To kingdom hell

How long will we carry bodies
How long will we be shamed nuclear nation ...time to test a dozen.ghauri. shaheen. Hataf.,s on these dogs from hell..sitting in afghanistan

 

[BHarwana]

Why not declare all in .....to afghanistan...
How long are we goung to play cat and mouse..
Flag half mast..
Condolance messeges from COAS..
Isis understand only one language.. why not bomb afg. To kingdom hell

How long will we carry bodies
How long will we be shamed nuclear nation ...time to test a dozen.ghauri. shaheen. Hataf.,s on these dogs from hell..sitting in afghanistan

That is what terrorist want. Pakistan to go war and start killing civilians as collateral damage. We are not going to let terrorist dictate us our actions. Our objective is Kashmir not Afghanistan. USA wants a peace deal with Taliban. This was their call for help. Please use your head as a military general not as a victim of war and look at this with open head. Anger always clouds our judgement. Anger is haram on a Muslim. It makes you make mistakes.

 

[LeGenD]

All the advocates of bombing need to understand this - US-led forces have bombed and bombed and bombed Afghanistan for years. And there is no end in sight to it.

We are up against the forces of Salafi Jihadism, and it is a mindset prevalent in many countries including Pakistan and Afghanistan. Unless this mindset is addressed (easier said than done), we will be in this predicament for years to come.

Food for thought:-

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2016/07/15/islamism-salafism-and-jihadism-a-primer/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_jihadism

List of controversial organizations in the subcontinent:-

• Haqqani Network
• Harakat-Ul-Jihadi-Islami (HUJ/I)
• Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen (HUM)
• Indian Mujahideen
• Islamic Jihad Union
• Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
• ISIS-K
• Jaish-e-Mohammed
• Jundullah
• Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
• Lashkar-e-Janghvi
• Al-Qaeda core
• Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent
• Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan
• Jamaat-ul-Ahrar
• Jamaat-ud-Dawa al-Quran
• Tariq Gidar Group
• East Turkistan Islamic Movement
• Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
• Commander Nazir Group

All are different heads of the MEDUSA of Salafi jihadism.

Pakistan will achieve squat with bombing some elements in Afghanistan. We need a "social revolution."

 

[proud.pakistani]

I think its time now to create a buffer zone between Pakistan and Afghanistan. Pakistan should capture small area within Afghan territory and use it as buffer. We can use Aman lashkars along with Army already deployed on border for this task. The point is everyone entering from Afghanistan should be checked again and again on dozens of checkposts to filter terrorists from innocent people.

Second possible solution is to activate our proxies within India and there should be a big fallout within India whenever an attack happens on our soil. Indians will not stop until we hit them in their homes.

All the advocates of bombing need to understand this - US-led forces have bombed and bombed and bombed Afghanistan for years. And there is no end in sight to it.

We are up against the forces of Salafi Jihadism, and it is a mindset prevalent in many countries including Pakistan and Afghanistan. Unless this mindset is addressed (easier said than done), we will be in this predicament for years to come.

Food for thought:-

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2016/07/15/islamism-salafism-and-jihadism-a-primer/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_jihadism

List of controversial organizations in the subcontinent:-

• Haqqani Network
• Harakat-Ul-Jihadi-Islami (HUJ/I)
• Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen (HUM)
• Indian Mujahideen
• Islamic Jihad Union
• Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
• ISIS-K
• Jaish-e-Mohammed
• Jundullah
• Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
• Lashkar-e-Janghvi
• Al-Qaeda core
• Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent
• Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan
• Jamaat-ul-Ahrar
• Jamaat-ud-Dawa al-Quran
• Tariq Gidar Group
• East Turkistan Islamic Movement
• Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
• Commander Nazir Group

All are different heads of the MEDUSA of Salafi jihadism.

Pakistan will achieve squat with bombing some elements in Afghanistan. We need a "social revolution."

US is the one who want to keep destablizing Pakistan and Afghanistan. They are bombing innocent civilians and Afghan Taliban, not the terrorist organizations which are attacking Pakistan. Why would they bomb their own proxies which they created for sinful purposes?

 

[BHarwana]

I know you are angry we all are angry. Anger is not a solution. Anger is a problem.

All the advocates of bombing need to understand this - US-led forces have bombed and bombed and bombed Afghanistan for years. And there is no end in sight to it.

We are up against the forces of Salafi Jihadism, and it is a mindset prevalent in many countries including Pakistan and Afghanistan. Unless this mindset is addressed (easier said than done), we will be in this predicament for years to come.

Food for thought:-

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2016/07/15/islamism-salafism-and-jihadism-a-primer/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_jihadism

List of controversial organizations in the subcontinent:-

• Haqqani Network
• Harakat-Ul-Jihadi-Islami (HUJ/I)
• Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen (HUM)
• Indian Mujahideen
• Islamic Jihad Union
• Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
• ISIS-K
• Jaish-e-Mohammed
• Jundullah
• Lashkar-e-Tayyiba
• Lashkar-e-Janghvi
• Al-Qaeda core
• Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent
• Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan
• Jamaat-ul-Ahrar
• Jamaat-ud-Dawa al-Quran
• Tariq Gidar Group
• East Turkistan Islamic Movement
• Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
• Commander Nazir Group

All are different heads of the MEDUSA of Salafi jihadism.

Pakistan will achieve squat with bombing some elements in Afghanistan. We need a "social revolution."

You are wrong USA is not bombing ISIS. USA is not the solution for Afghanistan. USA is a problem in Afghanistan. USA is air lifting ISIS to Afghanistan there numerous SAA reports of these incidents and with these attacks those reports are now becoming true.

 

[BATMAN]

2 words: Nuke India.

 

[LeGenD]

You are wrong USA is not bombing ISIS. USA is not the solution for Afghanistan. USA is a problem in Afghanistan. USA is air lifting ISIS to Afghanistan there numerous SAA reports of these incidents and with these attacks those reports are now becoming true.

Bro, there is ample evidence of US striking ISIS-K in Afghanistan. It is utterly wrong to deny facts on the face of them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/world/asia/afghanistan-isis-leader.html
https://www.military.com/daily-news...taliban-us-strikes-isis-afghanistan-heat.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/28/politics/us-special-forces-isis-raid-video/index.html

US even used MOAB to strike an ISIS stronghold in 2017.

Reports of US airlifting ISIS to Afghanistan are fabricated nonsense.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...othold-in-afghanistan/?utm_term=.46e96f48fcd4

ISIS can emerge anywhere - it is an ideology grounded in Salafi jihadism and there is no shortage of potential recruits for it in Pakistan and Afghanistan. This is the unfortunate truth.

 

[TMA]

Bro, there is ample evidence of US striking ISIS-K in Afghanistan. It is utterly wrong to deny facts on the face of them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/world/asia/afghanistan-isis-leader.html
https://www.military.com/daily-news...taliban-us-strikes-isis-afghanistan-heat.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/28/politics/us-special-forces-isis-raid-video/index.html

US even used MOAB to strike an ISIS stronghold in 2017.

Reports of US airlifting ISIS to Afghanistan are fabricated nonsense.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...othold-in-afghanistan/?utm_term=.46e96f48fcd4

ISIS can emerge anywhere - it is an ideology grounded in Salafi jihadism and there is no shortage of potential recruits for it in Pakistan and Afghanistan. This is the unfortunate truth.

And there evidence that the US is supporting them where it suits them...
That ISIS ideology was armed by NATO in Libya and Syria/Iraq...do not forget this aspect....

 

[BHarwana]

Bro, there is ample evidence of US striking ISIS-K in Afghanistan. It is utterly wrong to deny facts on the face of them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/world/asia/afghanistan-isis-leader.html
https://www.military.com/daily-news...taliban-us-strikes-isis-afghanistan-heat.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/28/politics/us-special-forces-isis-raid-video/index.html

US even used MOAB to strike an ISIS stronghold in 2017.

Reports of US airlifting ISIS to Afghanistan are fabricated nonsense.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...othold-in-afghanistan/?utm_term=.46e96f48fcd4

ISIS can emerge anywhere - it is an ideology grounded in Salafi jihadism and there is no shortage of potential recruits for it in Pakistan and Afghanistan. This is the unfortunate truth.

When there are reports in News that USA is air lifting ISIS from Syria to Afghanistan these bomb strikes are made to clear USA name. Come on who is USA trying to fool here Pakistan is not Syria. USA will suffer if it keep on supporting ISIS and playing this game. India is just a small problem in Afghanistan but USA has to realise the threat of ISIS and stop it's support.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I know where your heart's at but what you're saying simply isn't true. I say this because some of the most ruthless (for our enemies) generals I've met have been "liberals" (i.e. not right-wing extremists.)

I do agree that Mush is a traitor and should be hanged along with Zardari and Nawaz. I also agree that he didn't really inculcate the best culture in the armed forces --- but things have actually considerably improved since he left.

One thing is for sure --- we need more audacity and daring. We are SO concerned about the diplomatic fallout that we poke our enemies back after they slap us thinking we've accomplished something.

But this time, I can assure you that it's going to be a bit more than a poke.

Nothing will happen as the time for response is already gone.

Having seen the Pakistan of Zia and his establishment, and how good they were in maintaining deterence on all levels including sub conventional warfare, we have been in constant downward spiral despite achieving many technological advancements in tools of war. It's not the capability to respond but impotency, lack of interest, and above all, the mental salary to white skin and liabilities among western world including personal financial and family links. All traits you will find among this very special breed we call Pakistani liberals. God forbid had we lost the similar amount of soldiers in incident clearly linked to forigen powers, would these aholes would have waited to "find the right time" to respond?

 

[LeGenD]

And there evidence that the US is supporting them where it suits them...
That ISIS ideology was armed by NATO in Libya and Syria/Iraq...do not forget this aspect....

US is certainly a beneficiary of overseas conflicts; good for business (i.e. military industrial complex). This industry is a major driver of innovation (military and commercial) so it has to be kept afloat.

Agencies like ISIS are a byproduct of religiopolitical mindset grounded in Salafi jihadism; millions of Muslims share this mindset. These people are playing in their hands, and continue to fuel their military industrial complex with their all-advised deeds.

When there are reports in News that USA is air lifting ISIS from Syria to Afghanistan these bomb strikes are made to clear USA name. Come on who is USA trying to fool here Pakistan is not Syria. USA will suffer if it keep on supporting ISIS and playing this game. India is just a small problem in Afghanistan but USA has to realise the threat of ISIS and stop it's support.

Bro, media will report any point-of-view for ratings. It is up to the reader to do scrutinize information and discern facts. I created a thread to highlight facts about ISIS movement and tagged you in it.

There is no need to airlift ISIS to Afghanistan; it is not an army but an ideology - a byproduct of religiopolitical mindset grounded in Salafi jihadism; millions of Muslims share this mindset. You think people in Pakistan and Afghanistan are pious on the whole? ISIS can prop anywhere where such mindset is prevalent.

US is certainly a beneficiary of overseas conflicts. This is something beyond our capacity to deal with.

 

[BHarwana]

Bro, media will report any point-of-view for ratings. It is up to the reader to do scrutinize information and discern facts. I created a thread to highlight facts about ISIS movement and tagged you in it.

There is no need to airlift ISIS to Afghanistan; it is not an army but an ideology - a byproduct of religiopolitical mindset grounded in Salafi jihadism; millions of Muslims share this mindset. You think people in Pakistan and Afghanistan are pious on the whole? ISIS can prop anywhere where such mindset is prevalent.

US is certainly a beneficiary of overseas conflicts. This is something beyond our capacity to deal with.

This is not some thing beyond our capacity. USA is in bad water that is why it needs ISIS support to make a reason to stay here. Look around the world USA is on the losing side from SCS to ME. USA is just clinging with it's nails. US policies under Trump are not concrete they change faster than Kardashians change boyfriends.

 

[LeGenD]

This is not some thing beyond our capacity. USA is in bad water that is why it needs ISIS support to make a reason to stay here. Look around the world USA is on the losing side from SCS to ME. USA is just clinging with it's nails. US policies under Trump are not concrete they change faster than Kardashians change boyfriends.

Bro, US is fighting its war in a dynamic way. When a big target is in the picture, they apply conventional warfare. When numerous small targets are in the picture, they apply HUMINT and/or COIN.

US have eliminated scores of its targets over the course of years, therefore, its operations are winding down accordingly.

US have stepped up HUMINT and/or COIN operations in Afghanistan since 2017 due to resurgence of Taliban and emergence of ISIS-K there, and these will continue until Afghanistan is in a better shape. Conversely, US have placed Pakistan in FATF grey list to ensure its compliance to additional measures against the menace of terrorism in the region. US is also helping Pakistan in defeating TTP.

Make no mistake about it - US have the capacity to fight additional wars if necessary. They were preparing to counter DPRK not long ago.

US isn't confronting China in the SCS; US is mostly into posturing there. SCS is a South East Asian problem, but China does have the upperhand there - credit where due.

 

[BHarwana]

Bro, US is fighting its war in a dynamic way. When a big target is in the picture, they apply conventional warfare. When nuemerous small targets are in the picture, they apply HUMINT and/or COIN.

US have eliminated scores of its targets over the course of years, therefore, its operations are winding down accordingly.

US have stepped up HUMINT and/or COIN operations in Afghanistan since 2017 due to resurgence of Taliban and emergence of ISIS-K there, and these will continue until Afghanistan is in a better shape. Conversely, US have placed Pakistan in FATF grey list for additional measures against the terrorism of menace in the region. US is also helping Pakistan in defeating TTP.

Make no mistake about it - US have the capacity to fight additional wars if necessary. They were preparing to counter DPRK not long ago.

US isn't confronting China in the SCS; it is mostly into posturing there. SCS is a South East Asian problem, but China does have the upperhand there - credit where due.

Bro USA wants to contain Iran with ISIS but what USA is forgetting is that Afghanistan is our back yard and Balochistan is our new economical drive. Sorry USA will not be allowed to do so. If you going to remember every thing from past please also don't forget what happened in Vietnam. USA is a friend as long as it acts as one. Pakistan defeated Soviet Superpower in Afghanistan for the cause of USA and USA repaid us with bringing India into Afghanistan. USA has betrayed us still time is in hand USA needs to change its Afghan policy.