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Massive Afghan Army counter-offensive- 14 districts recaptured and 244 Taliban killed

such an enlightening analysis from someone with vast experience of handling Afghanistan ..

by the the way, who was the last power to control whole of Afghanistan ? as per my limited knowledge the British failed, the USSR failed to control whole of Afghanistan and now the current superpower also failed. But as per you, Taliban will be different in controlling the whole country, as they must have some special recipe which none of the former super powers had .. right ?

for a second, if i have to assume hypothetically that Taliban this time are the ultra modern socialist who will establish " Riyasat-e-Madina" after their takeover, even then, there will still be lot of Afghans who will be unhappy as they might have lost power, control and hate the talibs.. Thats how Afghans are and You would know more than me as you have a decade of experience.. that is the resistance.. anyone who hates the taliban and willing to kill..

If US with all its military superiority could not destroy taliban, then what are the chances of Taliban destroying any remnants of the current authorities completely?

Taliban is a good guerilla force and there is no doubt about it.. but fighting a guerilla war and governing a country is two different thing..

After Taliban takes control of Kabul, the roles will reverse between them and current government .. it will be the talibans who will be trapped in the cities trying to control an uncontrollable country ..
#1. Don't chastise the term 'Riyasat-e-Madina' for your own entertainment. You've been warned.
@The Eagle @waz

Now, coming back to the topic...

You inquired who was last power to control the whole of Afghanistan. Why are you even mentioning Foreign Invasion by UK or The Soviets?

I think it's pretty obvious how the candidates have been chosen these past couple of decades.

Who was running Afghanistan prior to the US invasion in late 2001?

I don't recall any major resistance back in the days. From 1996 to 2001 it was pretty much the Taliban, unless you know something we aren't aware of.

As for the 'Special Recipe' you spoke of... Seems to me with Taliban already have everything under control or you wouldn't have Army Chopper Pilots defecting to the US. Military personnel taking refuge in neighboring countries.

Hope all of your people stay put there for the transition & not pack C-17 Globemadter III's with Civilians on a 1-way trips back to India.
 
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#1. Don't chastise the term 'Riyasat-e-Madina' for your own entertainment. You've been warned.
@The Eagle @waz

Now, coming back to the topic...

You inquired who was last power to control the whole of Afghanistan. Why are you even mentioning Foreign Invasion by UK or The Soviets?

I think it's pretty obvious how the candidates have been chosen these past couple of decades.

Who was running Afghanistan prior to the US invasion in late 2001?

I don't recall any major resistance back in the days. From 1996 to 2001 it was pretty much the Taliban, unless you know something we aren't aware of.

As for the 'Special Recipe' you spoke of... Seems to me with Taliban already have everything under control or you wouldn't have Army Chopper Pilots defecting to the US. Military personnel taking refuge in neighboring countries.

Hope all of your people stay put there for the transition & not pack C-17 Globemadter III's with Civilians on a 1-way trips back to India.
There was a man called Ahmad shah Massoud, there was an alliance called Northern Alliance who resisted the Taliban..
 

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There was a man called Ahmad shah Massoud, there was an alliance called Northern Alliance who resisted the Taliban..
I think now you're just clutching on straws with that narrative.

We have clowns like BLF running around thinking that they own an entire province & will dictate the terms. Yeah we have dozens of Squadrons just waiting to carpet bomb them back to the stone age.

I know its hard to digest for India that all their hopes & dreams have been flushed down the toilet - yet again as far as Afghanistan is concerned. But you gotta hand it to the blackhole (Ajit Doval) for trying till the bitter end..., only to have everyone run for cover on C-17's back home.
 
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If they are taking back districts then sooner or later the videos will be released, lets not ride our horses before the race begins.
 
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If they are taking back districts then sooner or later the videos will be released, lets not ride our horses before the race begins.


Do you really think those clowns are in any shape to launch an offensive.... They are surrendering their armed cars to motorcycle riding taliban
 
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Do you really think those clowns are in any shape to launch an offensive.... They are surrendering their armed cars to motorcycle riding taliban

I am giving them benefit of doubt, best strategy for them is to hold for as long as they can, there is no need for a offensive all they have to do is defend the districts they have.
 
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I think now you're just clutching on straws with that narrative.

We have clowns like BLF running around thinking that they own an entire province & will dictate the terms. Yeah we have dozens of Squadrons just waiting to carpet bomb them back to the stone age.

I know its hard to digest for India that all their hopes & dreams have been flushed down the toilet - yet again as far as Afghanistan is concerned. But you gotta hand it to the blackhole (Ajit Doval) for trying till the bitter end..., only to have everyone run for cover on C-17's back home.
you seemed to be more confident than the Taliban themselves of controlling whole of Afghanistan. History of Afghanistan says the contrary to your beliefs ..

with regards to India, our relationship with Afghanistan was never about Afghans, but to pin down the foe next door.. we did that successfully for last 20 years.. now that there is a possible change of heads, we will try to renegotiate terms with whoever sits in Kabul crown.

By the way a chaotic Afghanistan or a civil war raged Afghanistan works better for India than an incompetent administration in Kabul now. One - it will keep our foe engaged in their effort to avoid the fallouts of the civil war .. two - there will be guns for hire to keep up our work..

as someone said " chaos is a ladder"
 
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There was a man called Ahmad shah Massoud, there was an alliance called Northern Alliance who resisted the Taliban..
They were almost done untill USA came in

Western alliance wasnt standing on its own

It had atrong support from india and central asian states

We dont know what will happen this time

But areas under northern alliance in 1990s have already fallen to taliban..its this bad...
Only central afghanistan is still holding

With militas being openly armed this might change but seems the taliban are poised to take overall all afghanistan in couple of months

This seems to be unbeleievable since we half a million troops with budget equal to pakistan army budget(exculde navy airforce, 5 b budget is very close tl pakistan army budget)

Doesnt make sense how few thousand talis are walking over half a million troops
There was a man called Ahmad shah Massoud, there was an alliance called Northern Alliance who resisted the Taliban..
you seemed to be more confident than the Taliban themselves of controlling whole of Afghanistan. History of Afghanistan says the contrary to your beliefs ..

with regards to India, our relationship with Afghanistan was never about Afghans, but to pin down the foe next door.. we did that successfully for last 20 years.. now that there is a possible change of heads, we will try to renegotiate terms with whoever sits in Kabul crown.

By the way a chaotic Afghanistan or a civil war raged Afghanistan works better for India than an incompetent administration in Kabul now. One - it will keep our foe engaged in their effort to avoid the fallouts of the civil war .. two - there will be guns for hire to keep up our work..

as someone said " chaos is a ladder"
First history states afghanistan can role over all afghanistan 95% was ruled without resistabce by talis..
Second..
Problem is indians and liberal afghans over played their anti pakistan card so much that pakistani establishment rightly believes that there can be nothing worse then current setup

If u have time read this from gen. Tariq
 
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you seemed to be more confident than the Taliban themselves of controlling whole of Afghanistan. History of Afghanistan says the contrary to your beliefs ..
Well the North you spoke of is pretty much fallen to the Taliban otherwise the Afghan Security Forces wouldn't of been running to the borders of Tajikistan & Uzbekistan.

I'm not interested in what they do to themselves, as long as its away from our borders
with regards to India, our relationship with Afghanistan was never about Afghans, but to pin down the foe next door.. we did that successfully for last 20 years.. now that there is a possible change of heads, we will try to renegotiate terms with whoever sits in Kabul crown.
Ahhh, finally some truth.

So what now? It took an invasion from the US & Allied Forces for you achieve that goal. So i'll repeat, what now?

Renegotiate your terms. What is left there to Negotiate? What, you think the Taliban have a short memory of what you all said about them them in these past 2-decades, comparing them to the likes of Al Qaieda & ISIS. You think they've forgotten how you supported the current Governments.

AS for us, we'll finally get a break at the Afghan Border from insurgencies & be able to shift that focus more on the Iranian Border where your other pals the BLF are gonna get the trashing of their lives.

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By the way a chaotic Afghanistan or a civil war raged Afghanistan works better for India than an incompetent administration in Kabul now. One - it will keep our foe engaged in their effort to avoid the fallouts of the civil war .. two - there will be guns for hire to keep up our work..
You just contradicted everything you said in the previous paragraph/statement.

So which one is it?
1. You 👍 the current Government.
2. You 👎 the current Government.
3. You 👍 the Taliban to take over, so that the "incompetent" administration is gone & the Taliban will be busy in a Civil War & 'Guns for Hire' (out of a Bollywood movie) will be offering their services on ebay...
4. You 👎 the Taliban 'cause now Ajit Doval is just another fUGLY face in the crowd.

By the way, you guys hadn't achieved d!ck prior to the US Invasion in 2001. What makes you think that you'll get the job done this time around? Better shift your focus on Ladakh. It needs attention. You'd hate for Pakistanis chanting "What goes around - Comes around".
 
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This multiple ID pajeet @Akatosh on one hand claims and opens threads that Taliban are also on Indian side and India has nothing to worry about their victory and then on other side shills for soon to extinct ANA

That is a typical pajeet for you. A chutya who just wants to remain happy thinking India is winning and Pakistan is losing no matter what ground situation is
These days Indians are saying anything...
 
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Well the North you spoke of is pretty much fallen to the Taliban otherwise the Afghan Security Forces wouldn't of been running to the borders of Tajikistan & Uzbekistan.

I'm not interested in what they do to themselves, as long as its away from our borders
don't rush into your celebration. Afghanistan has been in conflict since 1991, it has been 30+ years. but somehow u believe that Taliban will complete the control of the country this time.. lets wait and see if that happens in the next 1 year .. there will be opposition to Taliban in different form, and with the amount of arms left over by the ANA and US, this time conflict will be bloodier than ever..
 
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don't rush into your celebration. Afghanistan has been in conflict since 1991, it has been 30+ years. but somehow u believe that Taliban will complete the control of the country this time.. lets wait and see if that happens in the next 1 year .. there will be opposition to Taliban in different form, and with the amount of arms left over by the ANA and US, this time conflict will be bloodier than ever..
Based upon current events and historical precedent

Historical precdent: talis started in 1996(was non existent before) and in 5 yrs took 95% afghan except four provinces in north

Currently those four unoccupied provinces are about to be over run first with central afghan left

Last time talis enter kabul they didnt even fire a bullet..people just left

So we just talking facts..obviosuly everyone wants thr current govt to stablaze afghanistan but its just left district headquarters with all routes closed or closing
 
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Ahhh, finally some truth.

So what now? It took an invasion from the US & Allied Forces for you achieve that goal. So i'll repeat, what now?

Renegotiate your terms. What is left there to Negotiate? What, you think the Taliban have a short memory of what you all said about them them in these past 2-decades, comparing them to the likes of Al Qaieda & ISIS. You think they've forgotten how you supported the current Governments.

AS for us, we'll finally get a break at the Afghan Border from insurgencies & be able to shift that focus more on the Iranian Border where your other pals the BLF are gonna get the trashing of their lives.
Taliban can be more modern and moderate this time not to be used by others, of go back to their medieval selves as they were prior to 9/11. if that happens, it will not take much time before US drones and Tomahawk missiles showing up in the Afghan skies to hunt their favorite prey..

with regards to Pakistan focusing on Eastern border, yo cant do a jack Sh**t about Kashmir either militarily or otherwise. failed in the last 70 years and will not happen in next 1000 years ..
 
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Most anaylst put afghan govt fall in 90days

Those anaylst have covered the war in detail

Those anaylst are also surprised how quickly recent events happened..even the talis are surpised
Taliban can be more modern and moderate this time not to be used by others, of go back to their medieval selves as they were prior to 9/11. if that happens, it will not take much time before US drones and Tomahawk missiles showing up in the Afghan skies to hunt their favorite prey..

with regards to Pakistan focusing on Eastern border, yo cant do a jack Sh**t about Kashmir either militarily or otherwise. failed in the last 70 years and will not happen in next 1000 years ..
Tomohawk cant be launched like bananas..too expensive

Drones..well drones need pakistan or central asia which aint happening because usa doesnt want to. Or isnt interested

We are happy occuping half of kashmir and will keep fighting for all kashmiris who now thanks to modi unanimously hate india for the first time since 1947
Kashmiris are there to stay neither pakistan nor indians can do anything other then what they want
 
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