And I think his points about Pakistan's confused national identity with the only unifying factor being the animosity to India is right on the money. This is something the political class in India need to get their heads around- they still think peace with Pakistan is possible through trade, PM visits and granting of MFN, how long is it going to take for them to see the realties?
That's irrelevant because Pakistan was created OUT OF INDIA, India was getting independence and it was a certain movement that demanded a separate entity for a certain group. India isn't the one that needed to justify its existence but Pakistan.
You may think that till your heart's content - Pakistan has neither a confused identity nor one that rests on animosity with India but jingoism of the highest order prevents both you and him from seeing that !
Pakistan was created Out of British India - a subcontinent of Nations that was made into a country through British Colonialism...we don't need to justify anything - It was Our Land & Our Choice that saw the creation of Pakistan !
Just as it was India's land & their choice that saw the creation of their Country !
I'll say this before, I'll say it again:
I just hope that such threads are banned because they get infested by foOktards and I sincerely hope that this immature and idiotic talk of vindication or indictment must stop !
Pakistan doesn't need any justification to exist nor does our Father need any vindication for something that was decided more than half a century ago and supported by the bulk of his constituency - It was Our Decision and its Irrevocable !
Just like India doesn't need to give any justification to the British as to why did they go for Independence or not we don't need to give any justification for why we went for ours.
Countries and People decide for a myriad reasons and at a particular point in time; we're happy being Pakistanis and Pakistanis themselves should stop looking for vindication for that because there isn't any need - It was Our Land and it was Our Future and we decided accordingly & Indians in turn should stop coming up with ludicrous 'what if' moments in turn !
Its not as if the Brits are asking Indians, Pakistanis & Bangladeshi why did you go for Independence ?
Was it Economic Emancipation ? 53% of Indians, 49% of Pakistanis and 58% of Bangladeshis are living in multidimensional poverty so good luck selling that as justification !
Was it for Social Emancipation ? Our regions are riddled with everything from issues pertaining to minority rights, rapes, female feotus infanticide, rampant corruption, nepotism, acid attacks etc. etc, etc, - So again good luck selling that !
Was it for some sort of a Cultural or Linguistic Emancipation ? For godsake English is our Official Languages and our children know more about Macbeth and Monets than they know about our own literary and artistic works because in many ways the Brits were successful in making us 'British Indians' - the Civilized Savage from a Colonial Point of View !
And we imitate the West in almost everything we do from the Suit-Piece being the symbol of Professionalism with even our social paradigms extracted from there !
Maybe we should stop with this BS ?
Was it then for Political Emancipation ? Hunnnh ? What does that mean ? We don't Vote because its the fun thing to do...we vote because we want something's done...usually those somethings are 'Economic and Social Progress' or 'Emancipation' in a Colonial Backdrop, which isn't there !
Besides votes based on Tribes, Castes, Biradaris, Religion and what not is rampant in our countries and that speaks volumes about our Political Emancipation - Maybe we just traded in the Gora Sahib for the Bhura (Brown) Sahib !
At any rate I dunno what kind of political emancipation we were looking for when millions...tens of millions of us flocked to become Citizens of Her Majesty the Queen all over again since '48 !
And if we're gonna have 'what if' moments...what if we had stayed a part of British India ? The Gora Sahib grew out of his failures much....much....much quicker than we did and moved towards a more progressive and rational being before we even knew what those terms meant - Hes still way ahead of us on that front !
Likewise there are a plethora of 'what if' scenarios in case India and Pakistan were not Partitioned and not all of them are as 'Happy Ever After' as our usual brain-wave of choice makes it out to be !
So enough with the BS....enough with these endless brain-waves of 'Why was Pakistan Created' and 'Vindication' and 'Justifications' 'cause they reek of intellectual hypocrisy and little more !