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Marines' return to India stirs anger in Italy

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By Catherine Hornby and Satarupa Bhattacharjya
ROME/NEW DELHI | Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:04am IST

(Reuters) - A decision to return two Italian marines accused of murdering fishermen to stand trial in India stirred anger in Italy on Friday and calls for Foreign Minister Giulio Terzi to resign.

Mario Monti's caretaker government on Thursday reversed a March 11 decision not to send the marines back from a home visit after Rome secured a promise from New Delhi that the two would not face the death penalty if convicted, officials said.

The marines, part of a military security team protecting a tanker from piracy, are accused of shooting two fishermen off the coast of Kerala in February 2012.

They say they fired warning shots at a fishing boat believing it to be a pirate vessel.

The sailors, Salvatore Girone and Massimiliano Latorre, arrived back in India on Friday, accompanied by Italian deputy Foreign Minister Staffan de Mistura.

India and Italy have been embroiled in an escalating row over the marines, who had been allowed home for Christmas, and then again to vote in the Italian elections in February on condition they returned to India by Friday.

"The good news is that the potential diplomatic crisis has been avoided," De Mistura told a news conference in New Delhi.

But back in Italy the decision provoked an anguished response. Michele Emiliano, the mayor of Girone's hometown of Bari, said he had been comforting the marine's "despairing" family.

"A hypocritical government is trying to end its embarrassment by sending the sailors back to India after exhibiting them as 'free' during the election campaign," Emiliano wrote on Twitter.

Foreign Minister Terzi defended the move in an interview with La Repubblica daily on Friday, rejecting calls from centre-right politicians for him to quit.

"I don't see a reason to" resign, he said, adding that the temporary stand-off with India had helped Italy ensure the marines would be treated well.

The Supreme Court ruled in January that India had jurisdiction to try the marines. But Italy had challenged that decision, arguing that the shooting took place in international waters and that the two should face any trial at home.

"We maintain our position on the marines and feel they should face trial in Italy," De Mistura said. "We now want the matter to be handled fairly and urgently."

INDIA HAPPY

Politicians welcomed Rome's decision to return the marines. "We are happy with the outcome which is consistent with the dignity of Indian judicial process," Prime Minister Manmohan Singh told reporters.

Italy's initial plan to not send the marines back had exposed Singh's fragile coalition, which governs with a minority in parliament, to opposition attacks that it was too soft and had even colluded with Italy to allow the marines to leave.

The government had demanded Italy return the sailors or face a possible rupture in ties.

The chief justice went so far as to bar Italy's ambassador from leaving the country, but behind the scenes, Italian and Indian officials were trying to resolve the dispute.

"There have been very intensive diplomatic contacts between Italy and India during the last 24 hours," said foreign ministry spokesman Syed Akbaruddin.

Details of the negotiations have not been disclosed but Akbaruddin told Reuters that India and Italy had an agreement under which convicted prisoners could serve jail time in their home countries.

Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid said in parliament that India had assured Italy that the marines would not face the death penalty, which only applied in the "rarest of rare cases".

"Italy falls into line," crowed one television cable news channel, while cabinet minister Manish Tewari said Rome's decision to return the sailors showed that India's "gravitas is being recognised across the world".

(Reporting by Catherine Hornby, Steve Scherer in ROME and Ross Colvin, Satarupa Bhattacharjya and Matthias Williams in NEW DELHI; Editing by Nick Macfie and Rosalind Russell)





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Link please :P

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Since there is a bilateral treaty for prisoners in both countries to serve the sentence in their own respective lands. Why is our MSM not echoing this question of 140 Indian prisoners languishing in Italian prisons?

Italian Marines will do their time in their land, that is for sure.
Or may be not, they will be let off with a house arrest.

Source please.... never heard of such a treaty.

And why should we bother about those Indians in Italian jails? Most of them are illegal immigrants anyway and have been convicted in proper trials for breaking the law. So no problem.
 
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Source please.... never heard of such a treaty.

And why should we bother about those Indians in Italian jails? Most of them are illegal immigrants anyway and have been convicted in proper trials for breaking the law. So no problem.

If convicted, Italian marines can serve jail term at home - Indian Express


Why should we bother of Indian Prisoner's in Italy??

Well if Italy can bother about there murderers than why shouldn't we bother about our people who as u said are just Illegal migrants.
 
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Source please.... never heard of such a treaty.

And why should we bother about those Indians in Italian jails? Most of them are illegal immigrants anyway and have been convicted in proper trials for breaking the law. So no problem.

The two Italian marines being tried for the alleged murder of two Kerala fishermen last year would have the option, if convicted, of serving their sentence in their home country, thanks to a recent agreement between India and Italy allowing the repatriation of their nationals lodged in the jails of the other country.

An agreement on transfer of sentenced prisoners between India and Italy became operational on December 17 last year following its ratification by both the countries.

The two Italian marines, Salvatore Girone and Massimiliano Latorre, can now exercise the option of serving their sentence in Italy, if and when they are convicted by an Indian court. The two are accused of gunning down two Kerala fishermen on a fishing boat, about 20 nautical miles off the Kerala coast, on February 15 last year, in an apparent case of mistaken identity. The Italians claim that they opened fire because they suspected the fishermen to be pirates.

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Congratulations, India! After all your bragging, the Italians are just showing up for a show trial and going home immediately after :omghaha:


Did you even go through the complete article??

That agreement was in the process BEFORE this incident took place but it was only after the incident that Italy govt. speed up the ratification of the treaty.

+ Italy is not the only country with which India has signed such incident:

Italy is not the only country, though it is the latest one, with which India has such an agreement. India had enacted a law — Repatriation of Prisoners Act, 2003 — that enables the government to sign bilateral agreements with foreign countries allowing an exchange of prisoners.

If convicted, Italian marines can serve jail term at home - Indian Express

The present case is ONLY about getting the LAW take it's own course.

Where will the marines spent there PUNISHMENT is a debate which will start only once the court proceedings finishes.
 
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Ok thanks for the link.

Apart from that: Those Indians in Italian jails are convicted criminals, why should my tax money be used finance anything for them?

How sure you are these Indians are involved in criminal activities, overstaying on visa is not a criminal activity, so is petty theft or shoplifting.
 
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When Italian Marines came to India, a minister of Italy flew with them. But Indian govt doesn't even have names of Indians in Italian jails!

Jago India Jago
 
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