Map: Dozens of countries still punish homosexuality with prison and death

[Charon 2]

Homosexuality is indeed a mental disorder, you need to be mentally disordered in order to desire a person from the same sex since it's illogical and unnatural, It's no different than abasiophilia, necrophilia, pedophilia, erotophonophilia Etc......

At first homosexuality also occurs in the animal world so it's not really unatural. It's not the normative of the society that's true but that doesn't mean it's a mental disorder. Homosexuals don't have symptoms of mental disorder-ed people. Comparing homosexuality with pedophilia or necrophilia is stupid. Homosexuality is a romantic relationship of two adults of the same-sex while pedophilia is child abuse. No comparison here

 

[JUBA]

At first homosexuality also occurs in the animal world so it's not really unatural.

Just because it's occurring in the animal world doesn't mean it's natural, sometimes animals give birth to deformed babies does that mean deformed babies are natural ? No, the default thing is being straight not homosexual, straight is the normal and homosexual is the unnormal, the male body was not designed to be penetrated unlike the female body, that's why almost all species out there have tow sex, male and female, it's the only natural and logical thing.

Comparing homosexuality with pedophilia or necrophilia is stupid. Homosexuality is a romantic relationship of two adults of the same-sex while pedophilia is child abuse. No comparison here

No not really, pedophiles also argue that they're not mentally disordered, they claim that they're born that way and that they didn't choose it (also enhancing the chance of mental disorder), have you ever heard of the North American Man/Boy Love Association ? here's their website:
NAMBLA

they're one of the biggest pro-pedophilia organisations, they claim that the relationship between adults and children are love and a romantic relationship and they argue that there's nothing wrong with it. So yes there's a comparison.

 

[gambit]

When it's being pushed into textbooks and onto the streets?

But does that compels you to do something you do not want to do ?

The line that should not be crossed is physical, meaning I can insult you but I cannot hit you, I can threaten to rob you but I cannot actually rob you, lest I be prosecuted by the law. So what if you see two men being affectionate to each other the way a man and a woman does ? What does that do to you, other than grossing you out ? If you cannot adequately explain why you are affected physically, as in somehow you are compelled to do something, or lost something, you have no case in persecuting homosexuals.

 

[Charon 2]

Just because it's occurring in the animal world doesn't mean it's natural, sometimes animals give birth to deformed babies does that mean deformed babies are natural ? No, the default thing is being straight not homosexual, straight is the normal and homosexual is the unnormal, the male body was not designed to be penetrated unlike the female body, that's why almost all species out there have tow sex, male and female, it's the only natural and logical thing.



No not really, pedophiles also argue that they're not mentally disordered, they claim that they're born that way and that they didn't choose it (also enhancing the chance of mental disorder), have you ever heard of the North American Man/Boy Love Association ? here's their website:
NAMBLA

they're one of the biggest pro-pedophilia organisations, they claim that the relationship between adults and children are love and a romantic relationship and they argue that there's nothing wrong with it. So yes there's a comparison.

I already said that homosexuality isn't the normative of the society but that doesn't mean that the society has the right to discriminate homosexuals just because of their orientation. The world isn't black and white. Maybe homosexuality was useful for the evolution because population control. Who knows? I don't think it should be either your business nor of the government to judge how two adults live their sex life

As I've already said: Comparing homosexuality with pedophilia is BS and a typical homophobic behavoir. One thing is a romantical relationship between two adults of the same sex while the later thing is child abuse which harms the child.

 

[gambit]

Just because it's occurring in the animal world doesn't mean it's natural, sometimes animals give birth to deformed babies does that mean deformed babies are natural ? No, the default thing is being straight not homosexual, straight is the normal and homosexual is the unnormal, the male body was not designed to be penetrated unlike the female body, that's why almost all species out there have tow sex, male and female, it's the only natural and logical thing.

The context of the word 'natural' can be broadly construed to mean that if something occurs in nature, then that something is natural.

The other context is is more narrowed. Regarding reproduction, what is 'natural' is how a species reproduce according to how it evolved. Complex species like humans cannot reproduce asexually. Less complex species are born hermaphrodites, meaning it is both male and female, then when the environmental conditions are appropriate, the animals change sex and reproduce sexually. Human beings cannot do this. So under this context, homosexuality is unnatural, regardless of how often it occurs in complex non-human species.

As a heterosexual man, I do not find other men sexually attractive, even though I may appreciate exceptional physical excellence in men, such as how facially handsome some men are, same for bodybuilders and high performance athletes. I can compliment a handsome heterosexual man about him being good looking, and I have in the past, without both of us feeling awkward about it.

The problem here is not what is 'natural' or 'unnatural'. It is how we treat fellow human beings in the humane and the legal. So what if two men or two women are in homosexual relationships ? What does that do to YOU personally, as in what physical harm does such relationship have on YOU ? Homosexuality may offends your religious beliefs, but so can someone who is a Christian because his/her religion offends your religious beliefs.

Bottom line is this: The degree of what offends you and how you react depends solely upon YOU and not so much about how 'natural' or 'unnatural' that thing might be. If you kill a snake after it bit you, that is completely justified. But two men holding hands in front of you ?

No not really, pedophiles also argue that they're not mentally disordered, they claim that they're born that way and that they didn't choose it (also enhancing the chance of mental disorder), have you ever heard of the North American Man/Boy Love Association ? here's their website:
NAMBLA

they're one of the biggest pro-pedophilia organisations, they claim that the relationship between adults and children are love and a romantic relationship and they argue that there's nothing wrong with it. So yes there's a comparison.

This is about consenting adults. But even if homosexuality is a mental disorder, there are plenty of mental disorders that we live with without getting enraged about them. Those with Down Syndrome, for example. They have diminished intellectual development and are 'funny' looking. Do you support persecuting them ? Would not surprise me if you do.