Maleeha Lodhi responds to Afghan envoy’s allegations against Pakistan at UN

[A-Team]

Current course as in stop fencing our borders? Keep dreaming. Time for free lunch is over so face the heat now. Afghanistan telling Pakistan that its isolated is like Mexico telling USA that its isolated. Indeed we are making it difficult for the ungratefull Afghans which is why we are so proud of our army to make it strict for terrorist and smuglers to sneak in from Afghanistan. We dont need you, you need us.

I have no clue as to what you are ranting about ?

We have seen the smartness of UN so many times that it does not need any supportive comments. In Lebanon, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Kashmir, Syria, Vietnam, Libya there were so many smart decisions that none of the scars going to heal ... really they are so smart.

A handicapped organisation of the world's nations on disposal of world's rogue government of USA.

So now its the turn of the UN to be conspiring against Pakistan First it was the Indians, then the US, then Afghans, of course IMF, Mossad, RAW and now its the UN, you see there is something wrong in arguments coming in from Pakistan.

The only good here seems to China, but of course in the realm of international relations, you guys have put all your eggs into one basket and of course China is following its own interests and the statement that China-Pak friendship is higher than mountain .... etc is a naive one.

Makes you think! No?

 

[Imran Khan]

afghani logic

terrorists come from pakistan but pakistan must not close border or do any border management we will never allow pakistan to build check point fence or mine the border

 

[!eon]

I have no clue as to what you are ranting about ?



So now its the turn of the UN to be conspiring against Pakistan First it was the Indians, then the US, then Afghans, of course IMF, Mossad, RAW and now its the UN, you see there is something wrong in arguments coming in from Pakistan.

The only good here seems to China, but of course in the realm of international relations, you guys have put all your eggs into one basket and of course China is following its own interests and the statement that China-Pak friendship is higher than mountain .... etc is a naive one.

Makes you think! No?

UN is just a shoe in foot of Uncle Sam and about Indians Mr. Kalboshan Yadiv isn't enough ?
About recent love of Uncle Sam with India, NSG says all. They want to counter China at all cost.
and about Afghan officials, whoever pay them they will do his work, whether it's India, US or Pakistan.
You are not a kid .. hmmm ?

 

[war&peace]

If they are unwilling to leave there is no other solutions..just like Hitler wanted to exile all jews to Madagascar but the jews just would not leave...and no one would come forward to take them..Switzerland closed the border..Americans returned the ships...

And you want a Hitler like approach sir?
They can be forced by many ways. One thing is that if this ANA + NDS scum bags continue to follow anti-Pakistan policies which I'm sure they will because that's in their DNA, we have to activate and support Talibans openly and ask them to throw away the douche bags in Kubal and form a govt there as they had brought the stability into Afghanistan previously regardless of how strict, cruel or backwards they were, the fact remains the region was stable and Pakistani western border was peaceful and TTP like entity was in Pakistan. Once the stable govt is there, we can plan their repatriation in phases and we may even help the new Afghan govt in rehabilitation activites. It has to be done in steps. Make incentives for them there and make life harder for them in Pakistan in gradual manner so they feel the heat to move but not any physical or mental torture but just enough stimulation and despite we get a peaceful western border, we shall still continue to implement rigorous border controls with gates, fences etc so that no illegal movement can take place and not a single Taliban is seen active in Pakistan except for their embassy in Isb or on official or business visit through proper channel and documentation.

 

[A-Team]

UN is just a shoe in foot of Uncle Sam and about Indians Mr. Kalboshan Yadiv isn't enough ?
About recent love of Uncle Sam with India, NSG says all. They want to counter China at all cost.
and about Afghan officials, whoever pay them they will do his work, whether it's India, US or Pakistan.
You are not a kid .. hmmm ?

You do know there are no morals in politics and international relations, so for now its in our interest to be in relationship with the US, like it was for Pakistan for the so many decades. You took their money and are still taking their money to do their bidding, not blaming you there, and its naive of you to blame Afghans to pursue their interests.

I do believe that AF and Pak have a lot of in common but right now because Pak see its interest purused through proxy groups and not via the Afghan government and thus our interests diverge.

And you want a Hitler like approach sir?
They can be forced by many ways. One thing is that if this ANA + NDS scum bags continue to follow anti-Pakistan policies which I'm sure they will because that's in their DNA, we have to activate and support Talibans openly and ask them to throw away the douche bags in Kubal and form a govt there as they had brought the stability into Afghanistan previously regardless of how strict, cruel or backwards they were, the fact remains the region was stable and Pakistani western border was peaceful and TTP like entity was in Pakistan. Once the stable govt is there, we can plan their repatriation in phases and we may even help the new Afghan govt in rehabilitation activites. It has to be done in steps. Make incentives for them there and make life harder for them in Pakistan in gradual manner so they feel the heat to move but not any physical or mental torture but just enough stimulation and despite we get a peaceful western border, we shall still continue to implement rigorous border controls with gates, fences etc so that no illegal movement can take place and not a single Taliban is seen active in Pakistan except for their embassy in Isb or on official or business visit through proper channel and documentation.

You see you are being emotional here my friend, you blame the Afghans for so many things but in the same reasoning you are maintaining that PAK must activate support to the Afghan Talis ( as FYI when has it stopped ? ). Thus our interest diverge and AF is doing what it feels is the right approach to safeguard her interest.

You cant expect Afghans to play nice when you are planning on installing a puppet government there That being said Pak is welcome to do whatever she deems best in her interest and as long as your interest diverge there will be tension.

afghani logic

terrorists come from pakistan but pakistan must not close border or do any border management we will never allow pakistan to build check point fence or mine the border

I think it's not fair to paint it that way you are welcome to build whatever you want on your side of the border, but the issue
we have is that a gate on the Torkham is not there to solve the issue of stop terrorists when Talis live in settled areas, carry Pakistani passports and travel via your airports ( probably via VIP lane).

As I have always maintained AF-Pak must have a frank discussion with each other, normalize relationship and that is a win-win in the long run

/Peace

 

[!eon]

You do know there are no morals in politics and international relations, so for now its in our interest to be in relationship with the US, like it was for Pakistan for the so many decades. You took their money and are still taking their money to do their bidding, not blaming you there, and its naive of you to blame Afghans to pursue their interests.

I do believe that AF and Pak have a lot of in common but right now because Pak see its interest purused through proxy groups and not via the Afghan government and thus our interests diverge.

No, I am not blaming Kabul govt to take funds from US. If you go back to your orignal comment, I was replying to

First it was the Indians, then the US, then Afghans, of course IMF, Mossad, RAW and now its the UN, you see there is something wrong in arguments coming in from Pakistan.

At the moment, Pakistan can't develop deep relations with Kabul govt as it has deep ties with India via money. Only one can be effective in Kabul in one time.
But Afghanistan can't be cut from Pakistan. That thing the Indians can't understand, because they have no understanding of deep rooted tribal culture and blood relations.

 

[Nefarious]

Northern Alliance goons ranting again.

OK so we have NA officials making anti Pakistan comments anywhere they can find. They also fire at Pakistani troops who were on their own side of the border. After a beating, they claim that they don't recognise the Durand line which is the real reason for stupidly firing over the border. So the Northern Alliance is openly verbally and physically threatening Pakistan's territorial integrity.

Now I can guess straight off the bat what actions Pakistan will undertake in pursuit of its national interest against a vocally and physically aggressive neighbour.

Let's just say that we can rest assured Pakistan will have this one covered.

 

[khail007]

I have no clue as to what you are ranting about ?



So now its the turn of the UN to be conspiring against Pakistan First it was the Indians, then the US, then Afghans, of course IMF, Mossad, RAW and now its the UN, you see there is something wrong in arguments coming in from Pakistan.

The only good here seems to China, but of course in the realm of international relations, you guys have put all your eggs into one basket and of course China is following its own interests and the statement that China-Pak friendship is higher than mountain .... etc is a naive one.

Makes you think! No?

No ... No ... it seems something only wrong with Pakistanis; Afghans, Indians and Americans are angels they done nothing wrong ever in their lives. The government's of these countries only run orphanages, charities in other countries they never involved in any subversive activities in other countries.

Are you not aware being ex-UN that CIA, RAW etc are running so many charities and orphanages in other countries.

Please come to your senses? Did I ever say in my post that UN is conspiring against Pakistan. Read my post and if like to comment then only when you read it and understand it.

From your way of quoting the posts, I realise very much that UN is really spilling with SMARTIES.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

There is a confusing aspect here..if Pakistan is not supporting Afghan Taliban..what are Afghan Taliban leaders doing on Pakistani soil and why is Pakistan protesting against their targeting by US drones ? From diplomatic point of view it makes no sense and affirms the Afghan position that Pakistan is backing chosen factions to interfere in Afghan domestic politics!

the question should have been more comprehensive
what the **** was that guy doing in Iran? what the **** is his family doing in iran?
if him being trailed from Iran into Pakistan means Pakistan is at fault then what about Iran?



the Murree and Doha meetings are only possible if we promise that we wont shoot their negotiators
why is it hard to understand? Americans have been part of these meetings inside Pakistan and in UAE.

if you start killing the messenger then forget about any chance of negotiation.

 

[Path-Finder]

I am afraid our friends in Pakistan are just making it difficult for themselves, trust me those sitting in the UN are not a bunch of fools, I have worked with the UN and been to the UN HQ and trust me they are much smarter than what the GHQ would want you to believe.

Pakistan at this moment is isolated with the exception of China, which of course is nudging Pakistan to change course and that is precise reason it become party to the QCG. The sooner it realizes that the current course is not helping Pakistan the better it is for early peace in the region.

Indians thanking your post is enough for one to understand that the language spoken behind your afghani flag is indeed indian. that also is represented as the snake charmer relation with its snake. As for for isolation of Pakistan i bid you good luck with your indian masters as the world hasn't sunk to the low level you have in the principality of Kabul that we can be isolated by the WHOLE world.

 

[A-Team]

Indians thanking your post is enough for one to understand that the language spoken behind your afghani flag is indeed indian. that also is represented as the snake charmer relation with its snake. As for for isolation of Pakistan i bid you good luck with your indian masters as the world hasn't sunk to the low level you have in the principality of Kabul that we can be isolated by the WHOLE world.

Frankly I am indifferent to Indians, Pakistanis or Americans it is just that whoever serves Afghan interests then we are on good terms with them. It is the generals in the GHQ that are not taking Afghan sovereignty seriously and thus they project power via proxies, the reason that Ashraf Ghani bent backwards was that he wanted and still wants to make friends with Pakistan because Pakistan is an important neighbour and we can't wish you away.

The moment GHQ takes NUG seriously and blocks proxies, that will serve as a starting pointing for normalized relations.

 

[Path-Finder]

Frankly I am indifferent to Indians, Pakistanis or Americans it is just that whoever serves Afghan interests then we are on good terms with them. It is the generals in the GHQ that are not taking Afghan sovereignty seriously and thus they project power via proxies, the reason that Ashraf Ghani bent backwards was that he wanted and still wants to make friends with Pakistan because Pakistan is an important neighbour and we can't wish you away.

The moment GHQ takes NUG seriously and blocks proxies, that will serve as a starting pointing for normalized relations.

The GHQ is a thorn in the necks of our enemies and that is how it ought to be! Afghanistan has always hosted hostility towards Pakistan from the 1950's. That is before Taliban existed! and joining with their indian brethren have always done the very thing you are blaming GHQ for. that is allowing proxies to be nurtured and groomed by The Principality of Kabul dangling on a string for the high bidding puppeteer. Today the puppet masters are numerous and yet Afghanistan has to shelve its incompetence and failures on to GHQ.

Wishes of good neighbors in a good neighborhood are difficult when you shovel your waste over the wall and onto the the neighbor yard and yell that its the neighbors fault that you shoveled your waste at them.

 

[A-Team]

The GHQ is a thorn in the necks of our enemies and that is how it ought to be! Afghanistan has always hosted hostility towards Pakistan from the 1950's. That is before Taliban existed! and joining with their indian brethren have always done the very thing you are blaming GHQ for. that is allowing proxies to be nurtured and groomed by The Principality of Kabul dangling on a string for the high bidding puppeteer. Today the puppet masters are numerous and yet Afghanistan has to shelve its incompetence and failures on to GHQ.

Wishes of good neighbors in a good neighborhood are difficult when you shovel your waste over the wall and onto the the neighbor yard and yell that its the neighbors fault that you shoveled your waste at them.

Let us agree to disagree on this on

/Peace

 

[Path-Finder]

Let us agree to disagree on this on

/Peace

Indeed Peace.