Malaysian PM: We have no Muslim country to protect us, but that doesn't mean this should be forever

[Gandhi G in da house]

By that standard Pakistanis will unite with india as we are racially close when in reality we despise hindus

Pakistan is taking a different course compared to the rest of the world on this issue. Despite being similar racially to North Indians, you wish to focus more on the religious differences.

Afghanistan for example, despite being Muslim chooses to ally with India over Muslim Pakistan. That is the modern day reality.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Hey boss, as a Indonesian tell me what was "back" when you had 'unity' that

I think many Pakistanis view history like that

 

[guest9999]

You can imagine some "ummah" in your wet dreams but the muslim community is too big for it. Prophet Muhammad probably never imagined it would grow to be 1 billion people when at the time of his death it was not over ten thousand at the most.

I don't know about that. Prophet Muhammad seemed to know that His ummah would become pretty large. He also seemed to know how nations would gather to attack and carve up lands like food - a pretty accurate description of what's been happening for the last 100 years or so.

Thawbān (RA) reports that the Prophet ﷺ said, “The nations will soon invite one another to devour you, just as diners are invited to a dish.” It was said, “Will it be because of our small number on that day?” He said, “No, rather you will be many on that day, but you will be [weightless] foam, like the foam on the river. And Allah will remove the fear of you from the hearts of your enemies, and will cast weakness into your hearts.” Someone said, “O Messenger of Allah, what will this weakness be?” He said, “The love of this world, and the hatred of death.”

Collected by Aḥmad (22450) and Abu Dāwūd (4297); deemed jayyid (good) by al-Haythami in Majma‘ az-Zawā’id (7/290) and authenticated by al-Albāni in Ṣaḥīḥ Abu Dāwūd.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The problem is lot of the diaspora Pakistani's and Indian's tend to come from within few miles of border from each other. In UK you got lots of variation of Punjabi's going as Pakistani or Indias. Thus there is not lot to differantiate them. But thos Indian's are a tiny 5%. You ignore the 100s of millions further east and south of the Pakistan border.

 

[Philip the Arab]

I don't know about that. Prophet Muhammad seemed to know that His ummah would become pretty large. He also seemed to know how nations would gather to attack and carve up lands like food - a pretty accurate description of what's been happening for the last 100 years or so.

Thawbān (RA) reports that the Prophet ﷺ said, “The nations will soon invite one another to devour you, just as diners are invited to a dish.” It was said, “Will it be because of our small number on that day?” He said, “No, rather you will be many on that day, but you will be [weightless] foam, like the foam on the river. And Allah will remove the fear of you from the hearts of your enemies, and will cast weakness into your hearts.” Someone said, “O Messenger of Allah, what will this weakness be?” He said, “The love of this world, and the hatred of death.”

Collected by Aḥmad (22450) and Abu Dāwūd (4297); deemed jayyid (good) by al-Haythami in Majma‘ az-Zawā’id (7/290) and authenticated by al-Albāni in Ṣaḥīḥ Abu Dāwūd.

You going to rely of Hadiths?

As I said before how realistic is a muslim ummah in all seriousness? Be honest with yourself and just think about how unlikely it is. You should come to a logical conclusion your self.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

But what someone commented is that Indians and Pakistanis are related when Dravidians make up a huge majority of southern India. I don't think they are related at all personally since Dravidians look more closely to negroids.

Dravidians do make up 25 % per cent of India population and most live in the South but 72 % of India's population is Indo-Aryan and 80 % of Pakistan's population is Indo- Aryan. So there is that similarity. The reason India and Pakistan have differences despite racial closeness is because of religion but that has to do a lot with the specific history of this region and policy of divide and rule implemented by the British here during their rule. Long story.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Hey even if we were negroes I would be fine with that and Arab is like latino, you can be the blackest black and the whitest white. Sudanese are surely negroid as well as darker Arabs.

Point is your not Negroes are you Philip? Even if you have varying doses of Negro in you. Ditto Pakistan. Stop using broad strokes on us.

 

[guest9999]

So let's get this straight here.............Muslim Pakistan can best emphasize the "Ummah" by murdering and massacring innocent, starving and wretched Muslim Yemenese Men, Women and Children at the behest of Muslim Saudi Arabia???????...................with an "Ummah" like this who needs non-Muslim enemies..................the IQ of religious Muslims is obviously decreasing exponentially by the minute...........

I never said that Pakistan should have gone to Yemen, I'm simply telling you that from the Saudi perspective Pakistan "back-stabbed" them. That's why you saw a collapse in relations, which wasn't repaired until Imran Khan literally sucked up to MBS after Kashoggi incident and drove him whenever he came.

What you don't realize is that the Pakistan military is expanding as well........as a matter if fact it doesn't matter how much the indian military expands as Pakistan has had the capability to wipe out india and it's military of the face of the earth since at least early 2011:

http://isis-online.org/isis-reports...nuclear-weapons-time-for-pakistan-to-rever/12

The Muslim nations have NEVER helped Pakistan in a conflict. Where are you getting you info from?

Muslim nations have helped Pakistan, even during conflict. Saudi has provided oil - which obviously powers weapons. Turkey and Pre-Khomeini Iran had provided weapons to Pakistan during the war. Tell me about the Pashtuns - from Afghanistan - that were fighting in Kargil alongside Pakistani troops? Are you going to just ignore everything here as if it didn't happen? Muslims countries have given Pakistan essentially billions to support it in the Nuclear Program, do you think they did it for peace? No, they did it certainly preparing for conflict.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

you can be the blackest black and the whitest white

Ever seen the range of Pakistani's fro north to south? From almost black to blondes. We als have a wide spectrum and instead of disparate "Arab world" this is in one country on the Indus.

 

[Yankee-stani]

The problem is lot of the diaspora Pakistani's and Indian's tend to come from within few miles of border from each other. In UK you got lots of variation of Punjabi's going as Pakistani or Indias. Thus there is not lot to differantiate them. But thos Indian's are a tiny 5%. You ignore the 100s of millions further east and south of the Pakistan border.

True much of the diaspora is Punjabi all stone throws away from The Border if we had more Kashmiris Balochis and Pukhtoons you would notice the difference more clearly but culturally my family is Punjabi but ethnic wise very mixed like we got Pukhtoons and Kashmiris as well but the branding Pakistan of is done very badly for example you see grocery stores and restaurants say Indian restaurant grocery or South Asian etc then with Pukhtthons they would say Persian restaurant or Afghan restaurant

 

[Philip the Arab]

Ever seen the range of Pakistani's fro north to south? From almost black to blondes. We als have a wide spectrum and instead of disparate "Arab world" this is in one country on the Indus.

Pakistanis are very diverse I agree. But how related are you to Dravidians? Genetically not very much. A member said you are related when in reality it is mostly the Northern Indians you are related to and not the rest.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

'Arab' is just a linguistic group of array of subjugated ethnic groups from West Asia, Levant, Arabian peninsula, North Africa, Horn of Africa.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Point is your not Negroes are you Philip? Even if you have varying doses of Negro in you. Ditto Pakistan. Stop using broad strokes on us.

Lol, Arab isn't a race as I said before. You can be mostly black and still be Arab, its an ethnicity if you know what than means.

'Arab' is just a linguistic group of array of subjugated ethnic groups from West Asia, Levant, Arabian peninsula, North Africa, Horn of Africa.

Mostly Semites which are all related to us. Turks are not semites and are farther away genetically than most semites from NA and vast majority of ME hence why Turkey should not rule Arab land.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

True much of the diaspora is Punjabi all stone throws away from The Border

Not only that a good chunk of the Indian diaspora is also from across the border. Look at Canada. Most Indians there are Sikh Punjabi.

 

[Yankee-stani]

As much as Pakistan might be dysfunctional one thing I can tell these neo Arab nationalists hey at least we managed to be one nation one state along the Indus river