Malaysia, Philippines join India in protesting China's new map staking claims over disputed territories

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

All these loser countries can take a hike.

Chinese lands and waters belong to China.

End of the discussion.

This kind of cartographic expansion was practised extensively during European colonisation and also by the Third Reich under the Nazi's.
The Communist party of China is emulating what the Nazi's did in the 30's.

Chinese are greater learners from history.

That is why China was so successful in reverse engineering.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Malaysia, Philippines join India in protesting China's new map staking claims over disputed territories

China’s foreign ministry said that it hopes that “relevant parties” can see its new standard map in an “objective and rational way”.

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SINGAPORE: Malaysia and the Philippines are following India’s move in protesting against China for its newly published map staking claims over disputed territories while Indonesia says that the drawing of territorial lines must be in accordance with international laws.

China’s Ministry of Natural Resources on Monday (Aug 28) issued the "China Standard Map Edition 2023", which lays claims over large swathes of the South China Sea also disputed by Malaysia, Vietnam, the Philippines and Brunei, as well as several land areas in India and Russia.

It features a “10-dash” line - with an additional dash to the east of Taiwan - a break from the usual nine-dash line Beijing has been using in recent years to stake its claims over the South China Sea.

The map's release comes just ahead of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) grouping's summit in Indonesia from Sep 5 to 7 and the Group of 20 (G20) Summit from Sep 9 to 10 in India, where Chinese leaders are expected to attend.

MALAYSIA TO SEND PROTEST NOTE TO CHINA​

Malaysia’s Foreign Minister Zambry Abdul Kadir on Thursday (Aug 31) said that the country will send a protest note to China following its claim on the South China Sea as outlined in the new map, The Star reported.

This comes after his ministry had earlier said that it does not recognise China's claims in the South China Sea, adding that the map holds no binding authority over Malaysia which marks its Independence Day - or Hari Merdeka - on Thursday.

Speaking on the sidelines of a Hari Merdeka event, Mr Zambry said that Malaysia’s next course of action following the ministry’s statement was to send a protest note to China.

“That is the practice,” he was quoted as saying by The Star.

Malaysia’s foreign ministry on Wednesday had said that the map had among other things, displayed China's unilateral maritime claims that encroach upon the country's maritime areas in Sabah and Sarawak.

Bernama reported that the ministry stressed that Malaysia consistently rejects any foreign party's claims to sovereignty, sovereign rights, and jurisdiction over maritime features or maritime areas based on the 1979 Malaysia New Map.

“Malaysia also views the South China Sea issue as a complex and sensitive matter,” it reportedly said.

It also underscored the need for the issue to be managed peacefully and rationally through dialogue and negotiations based on provisions of international law, including the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS 1982).

"Malaysia remains committed to cooperating to ensure all parties implement the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea comprehensively and effectively,” said Malaysia’s foreign ministry.

"Malaysia is also committed to the effective and substantive negotiations on the Code of Conduct (COC) in the South China Sea, with the goal of finalising the COC as soon as possible.”

OTHER COUNTRIES WEIGHING IN​

Separately, the Philippines has filed a protest against China over its new map with overlapping claims over the South China Sea, a crucial waterway vital to international shipping lanes and an area of increasing contestation between China and the US.

"This latest attempt to legitimise China’s purported sovereignty and jurisdiction over Philippine features and maritime zones has no basis under international law, particularly the UNCLOS 1982,” it said in a statement as reported by Bloomberg.

Also weighing in was Indonesia's foreign minister Retno Marsudi, who said on Thursday that any drawing of territorial lines must be in accordance with UNCLOS 1982.

“Any line drawing, any claim made must be in accordance with UNCLOS 1982,” was quoted as saying by Antara after a meeting at Indonesia’s Parliament complex.

She added that Indonesia’s position on the issue has been consistent.

“Indonesia’s position is not a new position, but a position that has always been conveyed consistently,” said Mdm Marsudi.

Indonesia is not a claimant state of the South China Sea, but its Natuna islet cluster within its 200-nautical-mile EEZ is also claimed by Beijing within its nine-dash line over the South China Sea.

INDIA’S STRONG PROTEST​

Indian authorities had on Tuesday issued a “strong protest” to China, according to Agence France-Presse (AFP).

China’s new map reportedly claims ownership over land that New Delhi says is theirs, including territory close to where the neighbours battled in 2020.

“We have today lodged a strong protest through diplomatic channels with the Chinese side on the so-called 2023 ‘standard map’ of China that lays claim to India’s territory,” India’s foreign ministry spokesman Arindam Bagchi reportedly said in a statement.

“We reject these claims as they have no basis. Such steps by the Chinese side only complicate the resolution of the boundary question.”

India has been wary of its northern neighbour’s growing military assertiveness and their 3,500km shared frontier has been a perennial source of tension.

According to AFP, New Delhi said that two areas on the map released on Beijing’s state-owned Global Times newspaper belong to India.

One was India’s northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh, which China considers to be part of Tibet, and where the Asian giants fought a full-scale border war in 1962.

The second was the Kashmiri region of Aksai Chin, a high-altitude strategic corridor linking Tibet to western China.

Following this, China doubled down on its new map, which it called a routine exercise, and asked India to refrain from "over-interpreting" the move.

According to the Times of India, when asked about India's protest, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson said: "On Aug 28, the ministry of natural resources of China released the 2023 edition of the standard map.

“It is a routine practice in China's exercise of sovereignty in accordance with the law. We hope relevant sides can stay objective and calm, and refrain from over-interpreting the issue."

On Thursday, China’s foreign ministry reiterated that it hopes that “relevant parties” can see its new standard map in an “objective and rational way”.

Reuters reported that foreign ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin made the remarks at a press briefing when asked to comment on reports of some countries, including the Philippines, India and Malaysia, protesting the new map.

PAST MAP CONTROVERSIES​

China’s map has also drawn objections from Taiwan, with its foreign ministry spokesman Jeff Liu saying on Aug 28 that the “People's Republic of China has never ruled Taiwan”.

“These are universally recognised facts and the status quo in the international community," he added.

This is not the first time that China’s publication of a map has drawn objections.

In 2014, China unveiled an update to its official national map which emphasised its “nine-dash” line claim to the South China Sea and made the islands and territories within that region appear more integral to China’s territorial integrity than previous maps, according to The Diplomat.

This map drew a response from India for continuing to show the disputed territory of Arunachal Pradesh as Chinese territory.

In 2012, the publication of a map in new Chinese passports drew the ire of several countries, with Vietnam and India both voicing their disapproval.

According to TIME Magazine, the map included parts of India - namely Aksai Chin and most of Arunachal Pradesh - as well as shoals and archipelagos contested by several Southeast Asian nations.

And just last month, Vietnam banned the blockbuster film Barbie after it featured a scene that shows China’s unilaterally claimed territory in the South China Sea, Reuters reported.

well Let's use the old map.

Only valid way of protesting is to station more troops and military presence in the disputed areas.

Indians did this in 1962. But now I doubt India has the courage.

This kind of cartographic expansion was practised extensively during European colonisation and also by the Third Reich under the Nazi's.
The Communist party of China is emulating what the Nazi's did in the 30's.

What do you think of the map of Britain?

 

[Zsari]

PAST MAP CONTROVERSIES​

China’s map has also drawn objections from Taiwan, with its foreign ministry spokesman Jeff Liu saying on Aug 28 that the “People's Republic of China has never ruled Taiwan”.

“These are universally recognised facts and the status quo in the international community," he added.

This is not the first time that China’s publication of a map has drawn objections.

In 2014, China unveiled an update to its official national map which emphasised its “nine-dash” line claim to the South China Sea and made the islands and territories within that region appear more integral to China’s territorial integrity than previous maps, according to The Diplomat.

This map drew a response from India for continuing to show the disputed territory of Arunachal Pradesh as Chinese territory.

In 2012, the publication of a map in new Chinese passports drew the ire of several countries, with Vietnam and India both voicing their disapproval.

According to TIME Magazine, the map included parts of India - namely Aksai Chin and most of Arunachal Pradesh - as well as shoals and archipelagos contested by several Southeast Asian nations.

And just last month, Vietnam banned the blockbuster film Barbie after it featured a scene that shows China’s unilaterally claimed territory in the South China Sea, Reuters reported.

The above passage stated it all. There is nothing new to this map as China will continue to publish the existing map and those with territorial dispute will continue to protest as all this is routine except the new media fanfare.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

I like how china is so diplomatically incompetent that the US gain more right to build bases without any pushback.

Exclusive: U.S military in talks to develop port in Philippines facing Taiwan

The U.S. military is in talks to develop a civilian port in the remote northernmost islands of the Philippines, the local governor and two other officials told Reuters, a move that would boost American access to strategically located islands facing Taiwan.

www.reuters.com

U.S. and 18 Nations Participate in Military Drills in the Indo-Pacific Amid Rising China Concerns​

U.S. Marines attend the opening ceremony of Super Garuda Shield 2023 in Baluran, East Java, Indonesia, Thursday, Aug. 31, 2023.

AP Photo
BY NINIEK KARMINI / AP

AUGUST 31, 2023 6:00 AM EDT
JAKARTA, Indonesia — Soldiers from the U.S., Indonesia and five other nations began annual training exercises Thursday on Indonesia’s main island of Java while China’s increasing aggression is raising concern.

American and Indonesian soldiers have held the live-fire drill since 2009, and Australia, Japan and Singapore joined last year. The United Kingdom and French forces are participating in this year’s Super Garuda Shield exercises, with a total of about 5,000 personnel.

China sees the expanded drills as a threat, accusing the U.S. of building an Indo-Pacific alliance similar to NATO to limit China’s growing military and diplomatic influence in the region.

Read More: The U.S. Is Beefing Up Alliances Across Asia—But Don’t Expect an ‘Asian NATO’ Anytime Soon

Brunei, Brazil, Canada, Germany, India, Malaysia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, South Korea, and East Timor also sent observers to the two-week exercises in Baluran, a coastal town in East Java province.

Commanding general of U.S. Army Pacific, Gen. Charles Flynn, said the 19 nations involved in the training are a powerful demonstration of multilateral solidarity to safeguard a free and open Indo-Pacific region.

“Super Garuda Shield 2023 builds on last year’s tremendous success,” Flynn said in a statement released by the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta on Tuesday, “This joint, multinational training exercise displays our collective commitment and like-minded unity, allowing for a stable, secure, and more peaceful, free and open Indo-Pacific.”
The statement said at least 2,100 U.S. and 1,900 Indonesian forces will enhance interoperability capabilities through training and cultural exchanges that includes a command and control simulation, an amphibious exercise, airborne operations, an airfield seizure exercise, and a combined joint field training that culminates with a live-fire event.
The command post exercise will focus on mission planning staff tasks in a combined military setting. A field training exercise will involve battalion-strength elements from each nation exercising war-fighting skills to enhance interoperability and combined operational capacity.

Garuda Shield was held in several places, including in waters around Natuna at the southern portion of the South China Sea, a fault line in the rivalry between the U.S. and China.

Read More: China Is Testing How Hard It Can Push in the South China Sea Before Someone Pushes Back

Indonesia and China enjoy generally positive ties, but Jakarta has expressed concern about what it sees as Chinese encroachment in its exclusive economic zone in the South China Sea.
The edge of the exclusive economic zone overlaps with Beijing’s unilaterally declared “nine-dash line” demarking its claims in the South China Sea.
Increased activities by Chinese coast guard vessels and fishing boats in the area have unnerved Jakarta, prompting Indonesia’s navy to conduct a large drill in July 2020 in waters around Natuna.

Global Allies Join U.S. in Indo-Pacific Military Drills Amid Rising China Concerns

Soldiers from the U.S. and six other nations began annual training on Indonesia’s main island of Java while 12 other nations sent observers to the exercises.

time.com

 

[Song Hong]

One more thing about the map, China showed Heixiazi island belonging to China while earlier treaty, Russia China agree to split it.

Russia seems to change position and agreed return the Island back to China. Zakharova NEVER dispute China position but merely state border issue already resolved. A big sign showing there was secret agreement,

The SE Asian states should be wiser than Russia,


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"The Russian and Chinese sides adhere to the common position that the border issue between our countries has been finally resolved," Zakharova said in a statement published on the Foreign Ministry website.

"Its settlement was marked by the ratification in 2005 of the Supplementary Agreement on the Russian-Chinese state border on its eastern part, according to which Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island was divided between the parties."

"The delimitation and demarcation of our common border has been completed along its entire length (almost 4,300 km [2,670 miles]), including in 2008 on Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island."

Russia breaks silence over China map claiming its territory

A new map published by Beijing has asserted Chinese territorial claims over a number of disputed areas all along its borders.

www.newsweek.com

 

[etylo]

This kind of cartographic expansion was practised extensively during European colonisation and also by the Third Reich under the Nazi's.
The Communist party of China is emulating what the Nazi's did in the 30's.

Talk of pure BS nonsense, China is no Nazi Germany in anyway, losers like to scapegoat China these days.

 

[beijingwalker]

I like how china is so diplomatically incompetent that the US gain more right to build bases without any pushback.

Exclusive: U.S military in talks to develop port in Philippines facing Taiwan

The U.S. military is in talks to develop a civilian port in the remote northernmost islands of the Philippines, the local governor and two other officials told Reuters, a move that would boost American access to strategically located islands facing Taiwan.

www.reuters.com

U.S. and 18 Nations Participate in Military Drills in the Indo-Pacific Amid Rising China Concerns​

U.S. Marines attend the opening ceremony of Super Garuda Shield 2023 in Baluran, East Java, Indonesia, Thursday, Aug. 31, 2023.

AP Photo
BY NINIEK KARMINI / AP

AUGUST 31, 2023 6:00 AM EDT
JAKARTA, Indonesia — Soldiers from the U.S., Indonesia and five other nations began annual training exercises Thursday on Indonesia’s main island of Java while China’s increasing aggression is raising concern.

American and Indonesian soldiers have held the live-fire drill since 2009, and Australia, Japan and Singapore joined last year. The United Kingdom and French forces are participating in this year’s Super Garuda Shield exercises, with a total of about 5,000 personnel.

China sees the expanded drills as a threat, accusing the U.S. of building an Indo-Pacific alliance similar to NATO to limit China’s growing military and diplomatic influence in the region.

Read More: The U.S. Is Beefing Up Alliances Across Asia—But Don’t Expect an ‘Asian NATO’ Anytime Soon

Brunei, Brazil, Canada, Germany, India, Malaysia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, South Korea, and East Timor also sent observers to the two-week exercises in Baluran, a coastal town in East Java province.

Commanding general of U.S. Army Pacific, Gen. Charles Flynn, said the 19 nations involved in the training are a powerful demonstration of multilateral solidarity to safeguard a free and open Indo-Pacific region.

“Super Garuda Shield 2023 builds on last year’s tremendous success,” Flynn said in a statement released by the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta on Tuesday, “This joint, multinational training exercise displays our collective commitment and like-minded unity, allowing for a stable, secure, and more peaceful, free and open Indo-Pacific.”
The statement said at least 2,100 U.S. and 1,900 Indonesian forces will enhance interoperability capabilities through training and cultural exchanges that includes a command and control simulation, an amphibious exercise, airborne operations, an airfield seizure exercise, and a combined joint field training that culminates with a live-fire event.
The command post exercise will focus on mission planning staff tasks in a combined military setting. A field training exercise will involve battalion-strength elements from each nation exercising war-fighting skills to enhance interoperability and combined operational capacity.

Garuda Shield was held in several places, including in waters around Natuna at the southern portion of the South China Sea, a fault line in the rivalry between the U.S. and China.

Read More: China Is Testing How Hard It Can Push in the South China Sea Before Someone Pushes Back

Indonesia and China enjoy generally positive ties, but Jakarta has expressed concern about what it sees as Chinese encroachment in its exclusive economic zone in the South China Sea.
The edge of the exclusive economic zone overlaps with Beijing’s unilaterally declared “nine-dash line” demarking its claims in the South China Sea.
Increased activities by Chinese coast guard vessels and fishing boats in the area have unnerved Jakarta, prompting Indonesia’s navy to conduct a large drill in July 2020 in waters around Natuna.

Global Allies Join U.S. in Indo-Pacific Military Drills Amid Rising China Concerns

Soldiers from the U.S. and six other nations began annual training on Indonesia’s main island of Java while 12 other nations sent observers to the exercises.

time.com

We love to see how US is bleeding itself dry, US can keep stretching itself thin like USSR and China in the future can win without firing a single shot.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

We love to see how US is bleeding itself dry, US can keep stretching itself thin like USSR and China in the future can win without firing a single shot.

Literally the entire concept of an alliance is to share the burden of security.

I know for a Chinese it is hard to envision people/country protecting one another but just imagine it.

Talk of pure BS nonsense, China is no Nazi Germany in anyway, losers like to scapegoat China these days.

True it's acting like the Japanese Empire. Downright to the ethnostate & territory & sphere of influence it crave.

 

[beijingwalker]

Literally the entire concept of an alliance is to share the burden of security.

I know for a Chinese it is hard to envision people/country protecting one another but just imagine it.

China developed pretty well without your so called allies, it's US declining with them. We are happy to see this trend go on.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

China developed pretty well without your so called allies, it's US declining with them. We are happy to see this trend go on.

China is literally nothing without the West. Just look at China under Mao & under Deng with western investment.

 

[beijingwalker]

China is literally nothing without the West. Just look at China under Mao & under Deng with western investment.

China is just doing the normal trade and we are the number one trading nation, if the west doesn't want to trade, by our guest.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

China is just doing the normal trade and we are the number one trading nation, if the west doesn't want to trade, by our guest.

China depends on export mate. Losing it means the country will go to the dogs.

The West only want cheap labor.

 

[beijingwalker]

China depends on export mate. Losing it means the country will go to the dogs.

The West only want cheap labor.

Every country depends on trade, US big companies like IPhone and Tesla are laregely dependent on China, do you know why hordes of US leaders visit China recently?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Every country depends on trade, US big companies like IPhone and Tesla are laregely dependent on China, do you know why hordes of US leaders visit China recently?

They are dependent on Chinese labor not on China itself. Even iphone moved part of their production to India & Vietnam.

It's called diplomacy because the US are not run by deranged lunatics. Like China.

Not to mention all Chinese elites all parked their assests even family in the West. Even Xi is hiding his 40 Billion assets in the Cayman island. China relies on the West more than in reverse.

 

[etylo]

Literally the entire concept of an alliance is to share the burden of security.

I know for a Chinese it is hard to envision people/country protecting one another but just imagine it.


True it's acting like the Japanese Empire. Downright to the ethnostate & territory & sphere of influence it crave.

Fool, China is no imperial Japan either.