Malala, Khaleda and Hasina are characterless: Hefajat E Islam Hujur

[nair]

Question to the Almighty: Oh God, why have you made such idiots?

Because it gives us the opportunity to discuss it in PDF. I dont see any other reason

 

[Anubis]

bangladesh main economy is textile export to west. West has hestitate to deal witn any volatile country. Fundamentalism will destroyed bangladesh economy

They are already planning to 'take care' of it!
Dhaka-Washington security dialogue Apr 9

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

What a wonderful forward thinking level-headed individual and a true role model

 

[notsuperstitious]

Hifazat demands fundamentalism: German Ambassador

Hifazat demands fundamentalism: German Ambassador - bdnews24.com

Senior Correspondent, bdnews24.com
Published: 2013-04-08 14:04:28.0 Updated: 2013-04-08 15:14:45.0

German Ambassador Albrecht Conze sees ‘fundamentalism’ in Hifazat-e Islam’s 13-point charter of demand that the little-known group made in a rally on Saturday.

He says ‘this is not the tradition of secular Bangladesh’.

“This is a people’s republic. This is not a religious republic like Iran,” he said on Monday speaking at a Bangladesh-German Chamber of Commerce of Industries’ (BGCCI) ‘business launch’.

The luncheon meeting was organised to announce its partnership with the Messe Dusseldorf GmbH, one of the largest trade fair orgainsers in the world.

The Chittagong-based Hifazat has threatened to lay siege to Dhaka on May 5 if the government did not meet the demands that include banning women appearing in public with men, a halt to setting up of statues in educational institutions and roundabouts countrywide, and punishing what they said atheist bloggers.

Referring to their points, Ambassador Conze said: “We are seeing disturbing things these days. We are seeing things that belong to the Middle East, but not to the area east of Calcutta.”

He appealed to the business community to do ‘utmost’ to help defuse the current crisis. “Keep your republic constitutional, keep it secular.’

He said Bangladesh’s western friends were ‘worried’, but will ‘continue to stand by (it) in the current crisis’.

The Ambassador said Bangladesh was born as ‘a secular country and one of the reasons to leave the unity with then West Pakistan was that West Pakistan did not have secular tradition but East Bengal had’.

“Is your secular tradition now at risk?” he asked the business leaders of the largest bilateral chamber that has 400 members with annual two-way trade volume worth more than $4 billion.

He said they found “fundamentalism that takes God to the street instead of leaving God in the mosque, church, pagoda, or temple is not in the tradition of this country”.

Conze, however, said he was ‘confident’ that business people would find ‘one way or the other to be able to overcome it.’

In his speech, the ambassador spoke about Bangladesh’s current economic and political situation at a time when the country is witnessing constant shutdowns and the IMF predicts the usual 6 percent growth might not be achieved this year.

The Ambassador said Bangladesh ‘cannot afford to lose the steady growth’. To preserve the growth, he suggested going back to the constitution of the country, and ‘to the secret of success’ that is ‘secular Bangladesh’.

“If your growth goes down, the still existing and prevailing poverty will be like dynamites,” he said, “because people will not have the feeling that they can go out of it (poverty).”

He said the six percent growth was the reason for Bangladesh’s ‘internal stability and without growth you will not have stability’.

Germany is the second largest export market of Bangladesh with annual exports worth $3.5 billion.

The Ambassador said the interest about Bangladesh among German business community was ‘between unchanged and growing’.

“It is certainly not decreasing.”

He talked about fire safety standards in the readymade garment industries as he said Bangladesh’s garment industry was on the way of becoming ‘the biggest garment exporter in the world’.

“So becoming the biggest puts you to the spotlight and you must also become the best. Otherwise, you will run into far too many problems in the future.”

He credited ‘skills, diligence, and enormous perseverance’ of the people and their ‘readiness to work hard and even harder than some other continents’ to the ‘sustained success’ of the South Asian countries.

The success of South Asia’s economy, according to him, was hampered by a number of factors –absence of infrastructure and insufficient energy.

“But these are identified and defined which can be reduced by intelligent planning and best practices that have been developed elsewhere in the world.

“But the political and cultural factors were the most challenging in this region,” he continued.

“One party state like in East and South-East Asia is sometimes more efficient and more effective in planning, implementing and getting to results. It is more efficient than a democracy of the South Asian type.”

“It’s not a democracy (South Asian type) in pure sense of the word,” he said.

He said in the democracy of South Asian kind “you need consensus building and this consensus building is not just within political sphere, but it’s between the political and economic sphere”.

President of Bangladesh-German Chamber Shakhawat Abu Khair said the Hifajat people are ‘very minor’. “We have just given them a chance to come to the street.”

The Chief Advisor of the Chamber Md Saiful Islam said Bangladesh was still a secular country. “They (Hifajat) are 0.1 percent of Bangladesh’s people. It’s a fundamentalist group.”

“We have to give a prescription and roadmap to both government and the opposition abour what we should do and how.”

Ambassador Conze referred to the nine days of shutdown in March that he said brought ‘probably $2 billion economic loss to the country’. In the nine months towards the election, he said the figure will be $18 billion which is almost the figure the country’s main economic driver readymade garments earn a year.

He said Bangladesh should look at more than six percent economic growth and even a double digit frowth. For that, he said it would need “more transparency, it would need to say goodbye to well established practices of very close ties between the government of whatever party and business”.

The German envoy said Bangladesh-German Chamber in coming weeks and months had “enormous role to play in trying to ease the way to the future that does not seem easy right now”.

He, however, said he remained ‘optimistic’ because there were ‘too much brain and good intentions in this country for not letting it go the wrong way’.

@Loki, germans interfering in BD's internal matters and are now an allowed topic on all BD political threads

 

[TopCat]

Hefazat clarified their position regarding women in education and job. They have no problem in that neither they have any reservation in existing dress code of BD. The only thing they like to impose is barring free mixing of men and women in open spaces like Shahbag.

Thats what they said in TV...

 

[Spring Onion]

Hefazat-e-Islam are closet Jamaatis/neo-razaakaars! One day we will rid our land of all scoundrels who dare to be Bengali and Muslim at the same time! Joy Bangla! Joy Bongobondhu!

hmmmm so you are a Hindu Bengali? (oppss just noticed you have a hindu name)


You mean Bangladeshis cant be Bengali and Muslims at the same time?

You mean Being Bengali means a NON Muslim and Being a Muslim in BD means a NON Bengali.


interesting. so the choice is between Bengali and Muslim

 

[Capt.Popeye]

hmmmm so you are a Hindu Bengali? (oppss just noticed you have a hindu name)

You mean Bangladeshis cant be Bengali and Muslims at the same time?

You mean Being Bengali means a NON Muslim and Being a Muslim in BD means a NON Bengali.


interesting. so the choice is between Bengali and Muslim

And you are from Hefajat E Islam?
And you can make out a member's religion only from his chice of user name?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

By the way

Iranians don't wear burkas they cover their heads with chadhors

What an ignorant rambling fool

 

[Spring Onion]

And you are from Hefajat E Islam?

are you akash secretary?

you can respond on his behalf

By the way

Iranians don't wear burkas they cover their heads with chadhors

What an ignorant rambling fool

He is trolling sickulars in BD

 

[Capt.Popeye]

are you akash secretary?

you can respond on his behalf



He is trolling sickulars in BD

Now I am only a tamashbeen; watching the assorted clowns performing.

 

[jha]

Oye Shabashe.... Maaro ha***i ko beech chourahe per... Lanati kahin ka...

 

[Luffy 500]

NO where in the video did the huzur call them characterless. Can I ask awami captain clown to show me where did the huzur used such a word against malala? Shameless awamileaguer. Why twist their word like pathetic propagandist?

 

[Skallagrim]

Extremism begets extremism. These people have existed since independence. But for the first time in BD history their tolerance reached the threshold limit and they decided to protest against government and articulated their 'extreme' demands. 'Jemon kukur temon mugur'. A merciless hammer for the mad dog. Injustice and extreme 'secular' views of Awami League and their associates gave birth to extreme Islamic views.


Slow connection..I haven't watched the video yet.

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I just watched the video.

1. The coordinator and Shahriar Kabir put word into his mouth. He didn't say Malala, Khaleda and Hasina were characterless, he didn't even say they were 'be-purdah' (didn't maintain Islamic dress code).

2. When he gave example of Iran, just because it substantiated his position, Shahriar Kabir immediately asked why as a Sunni Alim he brought the example of a Shia state.

3. Hefazat-e-Islam is not against sculpture but against construction of statues esp of human forms (as they said constructing statues in the name of sculpture).

4. The Alim rejected the statement of Shahriar Kabir that they are against female education. Rather he said Islam persuades female education more than male education considering the fact that education of children starts at home and the source of many ahadith is Ayesha (R) the wife of Prophet (pbuh).

 

[Luffy 500]

@Spring Onion, Akash was being sarcastic.

 

[Spring Onion]

Extremism begets extremism. These people have existed since independence. But for the first time in BD history their tolerance reached the threshold limit and they decided to protest against government and articulated their 'extreme' demands. 'Jemon kukur temon mugur'. A merciless hammer for the mad dog. Injustice and extreme 'secular' views gave birth to extreme Islamic views.


Slow connection..I haven't watched the video yet.

The word secular is so mercilessly used by some clowns.

In BD and India secular means anything that negate Islam.

this is the funniest thing.

freedom to expression of faith is only limited to NON Muslims under such self-styled secularism.

thats what boils down to protests by Muslims.

a simple result

@Spring Onion, Akash was being sarcastic.

If that is so, then my apology