Make In India - Fighter Jet musings - News, Developments, Updates - F16,F18, Gripen, Any other

[A.P. Richelieu]

More Rafales. MII F-16 & Gripen. I want all of 'em please If we can. I'm ready to eat grass for a few months.

Jokes aside. I love the swedes. We gotta have the Gripens.

If the government has not changed its mind since May, then maybe you get what You want.
(not that I trust sputniknews normally)

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

With regards to GAN AESA, SAAB couldnt miniaturise it to fit into a fighter aircraft yet, which is why Grippen E flies with a Selex AESA? People from military production and research domain can endorse how tricky the term 'miniaturise' is.

But if I were to speak for a country that needs a cost effective alternative as their Back bone then there is no other aircraft that fits in perfectly than the Grippen. Unfortunately or fortunately, for a country operating Su30 and Rafale, there is no desperation for Grippen to take up 3rd layer of Defence.

Personally, if GOI pulls a miracle and fix production output, we don't need any other single engine aircraft for the next decade apart from MK1-A. That makes the most sense both financially, operationally and sometimes even politically.

The Radar for Gripen E was selected a long time ago.
At that time GaN AESA was not ready. SAAB has delivered GaN AESA for ground based radars,
and are confident that they can be ready for a Gripen (note spelling) MII.

The Indian Government apparently does not believe that Tejas production quantities
can be increased, alternatively they want more TOT, and are prepared to induct more types to get that.

 

[Sejong]

wasn't the Indian navy considering procuring the F-35 for their new carriers?

 

[Water Car Engineer]

HAL HTT-40

Using Honeywell engine.

 

[Hindustani78]

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/589672/india-select-one-more-single.html

New Delhi, Jan 3, 2016 (PTI)

Cutting down competition as of now to just two fighters - F-16 by Lockheed Martin and Gripen by Saab - Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar today said India will select one more single engine aircraft other than Tejas for indigenous manufacture under 'Make in India' route.

His making it clear that the aircraft would be single engine means that double engine aircraft like F/A 18 by Boeing and Rafale by Dassault Aviation, both preparing for India's next round of multi-billion deal for fighters, are out of the race.

Just-retired IAF chief Arup Raha had said India required about 200 medium weight category aircraft besides the 36 Rafale fighters.

Parrikar also made it clear that navy will continue supporting the development of naval version of Tejas but the current one will be just a technology demonstrator. He said that the navy is seeking a double engine aircraft.

He said when India decides to go for a twin-engine fighter to be made here, the government will also consider the Rafale.

But as of now there are no plans to procure any additional aircraft, he added.

Talking about the next fighter competition of India, Parrikar said the need for a second production line for single engine aircraft is felt besides the one for Tejas.

"The second line of single engine requirement is also felt for which we are thinking of using the strategic partnership route," he said.

The Defence Minister said once the chapter on strategic partnership is finalised this month, his ministry will start moving in the direction of single engine fighter aircraft.

He said by the end of this year, decisions on the next aircraft should be tentatively finished.

Parrikar said few of the initial aircraft may come off the shelf by the "rest would be made in India increasing the Indian capability in aviation".

He said the process for the next fighter aircraft will include both selection through normal process and government- to-government contract.

"Selection of the local partner would be through a transparent and well defined process," he said, adding that capabilities and financial strength would also be looked into.

"Once you select the local partner, the OEM obviously will be selected through a process of the way we do it. It means who gives the best offer, Transfer of Technology and many other things and price. There will be weightage to both to both," he said.

Parrikar added that once the company is selected, there will be a government-to-government contract to ensure that the other government stands guarantee to the promises made by the firm in terms of technology transfer and other issues.

 

[Sloth 22]

Thailand: Fighter jet crashes during Children’s Day airshow, pilot killed
By Asian Correspondent Staff | 14th January 2017 | @ascorrespondent


(File) Three Saab JAS-39 Gripen aircraft of the Hungarian Air Force during an exercise in 2016. Source: Sandor Ujvari/MTI via AP

A GRIPEN fighter jet crashed on a runway during an airshow for Children’s Day in Hat Yai, Songkhla province, Saturday morning, forcing a temporary closure of the airport.

According to local media reports, the pilot identified as Sqn Ldr Dilokrit Pattavee was killed during the 9.27am incident.

Videos filmed and posted online show onlookers during the celebration watching as the jet neared the runway for what was reportedly meant to be a stunt maneuver.

The jet said to be a Swedish-made 39C Gripen, however, nosedived after a flip and crashed into the ground in the distance.

[Video] A Royal Thai Airforce (RTAF) Gripen aircraft has crashed nearby the Hatyai International Airport this morning pic.twitter.com/bJyZSu4fNA
— BERNAMA (@bernamadotcom) January 14, 2017
Bangkok Post reported other local media as claiming an hour later that the fire engine heading to the crash overturned while on the way to put out the fire, forcing authorities to temporarily shutter the Hat Yai airport.

Following the closure, commercial flights were diverted to the nearby Krabi airport, while outbound flights were delayed. The airport is expected to be reopened by afternoon.

Bangkok Post quoted air force spokesman Pongsak Semachai as saying that a committee will be set up to investigate the incident.

According to the daily, the Royal Thai Air Force urged the public to respect the victim’s family as well as other affected parties.

Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha offered his condolences to the family of the deceased.

 

[Tshering22]

Thailand: Fighter jet crashes during Children’s Day airshow, pilot killed
By Asian Correspondent Staff | 14th January 2017 | @ascorrespondent


(File) Three Saab JAS-39 Gripen aircraft of the Hungarian Air Force during an exercise in 2016. Source: Sandor Ujvari/MTI via AP

A GRIPEN fighter jet crashed on a runway during an airshow for Children’s Day in Hat Yai, Songkhla province, Saturday morning, forcing a temporary closure of the airport.

According to local media reports, the pilot identified as Sqn Ldr Dilokrit Pattavee was killed during the 9.27am incident.

Videos filmed and posted online show onlookers during the celebration watching as the jet neared the runway for what was reportedly meant to be a stunt maneuver.

The jet said to be a Swedish-made 39C Gripen, however, nosedived after a flip and crashed into the ground in the distance.

[Video] A Royal Thai Airforce (RTAF) Gripen aircraft has crashed nearby the Hatyai International Airport this morning pic.twitter.com/bJyZSu4fNA
— BERNAMA (@bernamadotcom) January 14, 2017
Bangkok Post reported other local media as claiming an hour later that the fire engine heading to the crash overturned while on the way to put out the fire, forcing authorities to temporarily shutter the Hat Yai airport.

Following the closure, commercial flights were diverted to the nearby Krabi airport, while outbound flights were delayed. The airport is expected to be reopened by afternoon.

Bangkok Post quoted air force spokesman Pongsak Semachai as saying that a committee will be set up to investigate the incident.

According to the daily, the Royal Thai Air Force urged the public to respect the victim’s family as well as other affected parties.

Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha offered his condolences to the family of the deceased.

Gripens are pretty good platforms.

Pilot skill is also a major factor for air crashes.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Thailand: Fighter jet crashes during Children’s Day airshow, pilot killed
By Asian Correspondent Staff | 14th January 2017 | @ascorrespondent


(File) Three Saab JAS-39 Gripen aircraft of the Hungarian Air Force during an exercise in 2016. Source: Sandor Ujvari/MTI via AP

A GRIPEN fighter jet crashed on a runway during an airshow for Children’s Day in Hat Yai, Songkhla province, Saturday morning, forcing a temporary closure of the airport.

According to local media reports, the pilot identified as Sqn Ldr Dilokrit Pattavee was killed during the 9.27am incident.

Videos filmed and posted online show onlookers during the celebration watching as the jet neared the runway for what was reportedly meant to be a stunt maneuver.

The jet said to be a Swedish-made 39C Gripen, however, nosedived after a flip and crashed into the ground in the distance.

[Video] A Royal Thai Airforce (RTAF) Gripen aircraft has crashed nearby the Hatyai International Airport this morning pic.twitter.com/bJyZSu4fNA
— BERNAMA (@bernamadotcom) January 14, 2017
Bangkok Post reported other local media as claiming an hour later that the fire engine heading to the crash overturned while on the way to put out the fire, forcing authorities to temporarily shutter the Hat Yai airport.

Following the closure, commercial flights were diverted to the nearby Krabi airport, while outbound flights were delayed. The airport is expected to be reopened by afternoon.

Bangkok Post quoted air force spokesman Pongsak Semachai as saying that a committee will be set up to investigate the incident.

According to the daily, the Royal Thai Air Force urged the public to respect the victim’s family as well as other affected parties.

Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha offered his condolences to the family of the deceased.

Air Force awaits answers on fatal Gripen crash
January 30, 2017 01:00

By JITRAPORN SENAWONG

THE NATION

THE AIR FORCE is attempting to determine the cause of the deadly JAS 39 Gripen crash at a Songkhla air show this month, as it considers buying a full fleet of the Swedish-made fighter jets to make up one of the strongest air forces in Asean.

Authorities are waiting for answers from the maker of the jet fighter, the aerospace company Saab, which has received the aircraft’s crash survivable memory unit (CSMU), more commonly referred to as the “black box” that records flight data in the event of a crash.

Saab received the CSMU days after the crash that killed Squadron Leader Dilokrit Pattawee on Children’s Day.

The investigation is expected to take about two months based on the analysis of the pre-crash condition of the aircraft, flying conditions at the time of the accident, and relevant issues regarding the pilot and management.

The plane that crashed – one of Thailand’s 12 JAS 39 Gripen fighter jets composing Wing 7 in Surat Thani province – was not among three jets struck by lightning during their 2013 transport to Thailand.

After a temporary suspension following the crash, the remaining 11 jets of the Gripen squadron successfully performed an operation over the Gulf of Thailand on Thursday, which authorities said indicated that the loss of one of the jets had not dented the fleet’s operational abilities.

The Air Force plans to field a total force of 18 Gripen jets. The first 12 were bought for Bt34.4 billion while Air Chief Marshal Chalit Pukbhasuk was the Air Force’s commander-in-chief.

The purchase came with an agreement that Sweden would provide aid, training and maintenance in relation to the jets, but as potential war-fighting aircraft, they were not insured.

The Gripen fighter jet was manufactured to replace the J35 Darken and AJS 37 Viggen fighter jets utilised by the Swedish air force. It was unveiled on April 26, 1987, which coincided with Saab’s 50th anniversary, and tested on December 9, 1988.

The jets were commissioned by the Swedish Air Force in 1997.

Being a 4.5 Generation Fighter, the light, single-engine, multi-role fighter aircraft has a command and control system and is compatible with various weapon systems, meaning it has the potential to be further developed and upgraded.

The aircraft can take off on an 800-metre runway and land on a 500-metre section of highway, while requiring only a five-member ground-support team.

In performing group tasks, squadrons can partially avoid detection by using one jet’s radar to send target information to group members to attack the target. The aircraft has a stealth system reportedly similar to that of the US F-22 fighter jet.

Original post nationmultimedia.com

 

[Water Car Engineer]

 

[mansoor raja]

Gripens are pretty good platforms.

Pilot skill is also a major factor for air crashes.

He fly really low than Jets capabilities. Tejas can do better low flying

 

[Water Car Engineer]

 

[egodoc222]

This aircraft looks awesome!!
Things are definitely changing for HAL!!

 

[khanasifm]

????
http://www.defensenews.com/articles/indian-air-force-rejects-british-advanced-hawk-aircraft

 

[X_Killer]

wasn't the Indian navy considering procuring the F-35 for their new carriers?

Indian Navy already rejected F-35 offer because of single Engine platform.
Indian Navy always prefer dual engine configuration for modern ACC

 

[sathya]

Leonardo announced today that the #PakGov has placed orders for an undisclosed number of additional AW139 intermediate twin engine helicopter

Wrong thread