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Majority in China back teaching English; debate rages over move to scrap it
A proposal by a member of China's national advisory body to drop English as a core subject for primary and secondary school students has triggered a heated debate

March 8, 2021 17:09 IST

A proposal by a member of China's national advisory body to drop English as a core subject for primary and secondary school students has triggered a heated debate among experts and netizens with a majority of them favouring to retain it, saying it would make the country capable of competing with other nations.

English gradually gained prominence in largely Mandarin spoking country as schools and colleges made it compulsory since 2001 with a strong backing from the government.


Xu Jin, a member of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPCC) which is holding its annual session here, has proposed that English should not be a core subject like Chinese and mathematics and more course hours should be given to improving students' skills in physical education, music and art.

Xu is a member of the Jiu San Society, one of China's eight non-Communist political parties permitted by the ruling Communist Party of China (CPC).

English and other foreign languages should also not be included as compulsory subjects for the national college entrance exam, he suggested, according to China Daily, one of the state-run English dailies.

While English takes up about 10 per cent of class hours, less than 10 per cent of university graduates use the language at work, he said.

Moreover, smart translation devices can offer sophisticated translation services and in the age of artificial intelligence, translators will be among the top 10 professions to be eliminated, Xu said.

His proposal has triggered a heated discussion on social media and the hashtag "removing English as a core subject for primary and secondary school students" had been read 120 million times on Sina Weibo, a microblogging site akin to Twitter in China, as of Sunday.

Some netizens agreed with his proposal, saying they had wasted too much time studying English at school and did not use it in their daily lives, while others said the idea is not in line with the country's pursuit of further openness and is unlikely to be endorsed by authorities.

Significantly, in an online poll conducted by the state-run China Youth Daily, more than 110,000 respondents opposed the proposal and said English should be taught early at schools to enable China to compete with other countries.

However, around 100,000 people supported the proposal, saying it would be better to spend more time learning Chinese language and culture.

Zhang Lianzhong, a professor at Beijing Foreign Studies University, said the Ministry of Education has made English a compulsory course from third grade in 2001.

The decision had proved to be a smart one as hundreds of millions of Chinese students have broadened their horizons and improved their cultural awareness and critical thinking ability through learning the language, Zhang said in an interview with Beijing News.

Xiong Bingqi, deputy head of the 21st Century Education Research Institute in Beijing, said the key is to reform China's exam-oriented education system so that English teaching will focus on improving students' language skills, not exam-taking ability.

Removing English as a core subject will only result in greater imbalances between urban and rural students in English proficiency as urban students will more likely resort to costly after-school training to learn the language, he added.

 
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Majority in China back teaching English; debate rages over move to scrap it
A proposal by a member of China's national advisory body to drop English as a core subject for primary and secondary school students has triggered a heated debate

March 8, 2021 17:09 IST

A proposal by a member of China's national advisory body to drop English as a core subject for primary and secondary school students has triggered a heated debate among experts and netizens with a majority of them favouring to retain it, saying it would make the country capable of competing with other nations.

English gradually gained prominence in largely Mandarin spoking country as schools and colleges made it compulsory since 2001 with a strong backing from the government.


Xu Jin, a member of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPCC) which is holding its annual session here, has proposed that English should not be a core subject like Chinese and mathematics and more course hours should be given to improving students' skills in physical education, music and art.

Xu is a member of the Jiu San Society, one of China's eight non-Communist political parties permitted by the ruling Communist Party of China (CPC).

English and other foreign languages should also not be included as compulsory subjects for the national college entrance exam, he suggested, according to China Daily, one of the state-run English dailies.

While English takes up about 10 per cent of class hours, less than 10 per cent of university graduates use the language at work, he said.

Moreover, smart translation devices can offer sophisticated translation services and in the age of artificial intelligence, translators will be among the top 10 professions to be eliminated, Xu said.

His proposal has triggered a heated discussion on social media and the hashtag "removing English as a core subject for primary and secondary school students" had been read 120 million times on Sina Weibo, a microblogging site akin to Twitter in China, as of Sunday.

Some netizens agreed with his proposal, saying they had wasted too much time studying English at school and did not use it in their daily lives, while others said the idea is not in line with the country's pursuit of further openness and is unlikely to be endorsed by authorities.

Significantly, in an online poll conducted by the state-run China Youth Daily, more than 110,000 respondents opposed the proposal and said English should be taught early at schools to enable China to compete with other countries.

However, around 100,000 people supported the proposal, saying it would be better to spend more time learning Chinese language and culture.

Zhang Lianzhong, a professor at Beijing Foreign Studies University, said the Ministry of Education has made English a compulsory course from third grade in 2001.

The decision had proved to be a smart one as hundreds of millions of Chinese students have broadened their horizons and improved their cultural awareness and critical thinking ability through learning the language, Zhang said in an interview with Beijing News.

Xiong Bingqi, deputy head of the 21st Century Education Research Institute in Beijing, said the key is to reform China's exam-oriented education system so that English teaching will focus on improving students' language skills, not exam-taking ability.

Removing English as a core subject will only result in greater imbalances between urban and rural students in English proficiency as urban students will more likely resort to costly after-school training to learn the language, he added.



Good move. Learning English is waste of time and resources.
 
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Scrap it, but offer it as optional because it is useful for international collaboration.
If 10% learn English, that will be millions of Chinese.
The alphabet and simple constructs like "A" for Apple can be taught early to all.

I noticed even for the highly educated, as long as their thought process is not in English, they will make mistakes in their spelling and grammar.
Without the idiosyncratic grammar, English is actually quite easy and grammar is not needed to understand scientific and technical documents in English.

China should also sinicize it.
e.g "Good", "More Good" and "Most Good" and "Fast, More Fast, Most Fast", would be much easier than having to remember Good, Better, Best and Fast, Faster, Fastest.
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Good move. Learning English is waste of time and resources.

Lmao. Don't listen to this guy. English serves as universal language currently. It gives you link to the world and if you leave that behind you enter a blind spot with no connection to the world
 
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Bad idea.

Some subjects at higher levels require a basic understanding of English vocabulary and acronyms, such as IT, chemistry, physics, finance, economics etc.

Removing English as a core subject will limit the access of higher education for poorer students, an important channel for upward social mobility, as their English fundamentals may not be as strong as those better-off students.

Like what the article said:
Removing English as a core subject will only result in greater imbalances between urban and rural students in English proficiency as urban students will more likely resort to costly after-school training to learn the language, he added.
 
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Must not appear to be too close to the English speakers. If you are then nobody will believe you are against them.
 
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Well can we switch it from UK-English to American-English?

If people are going to mangle English...may as well learn the version that is already mangled so nobody can call you out.
 
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Lmao. Don't listen to this guy. English serves as universal language currently. It gives you link to the world and if you leave that behind you enter a blind spot with no connection to the world


Why should the Chinese learn English? Let the English Mandarin.
 
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Why should the Chinese learn English? Let the English Mandarin.
Like it or not, English is the International Lingua Franca and Mandarin is not exactly easy.
The issue at hand is not to ban English but whether to remove it as a compulsory core subject that every Chinese have to learn.
I believe English should be made a selective subject in secondary school so that only 20-30% will learn English.
Those weaker students can make use of the time to brush up their other studies instead of learning English which they may never use in their working life.
All will know the alphabet and simple communication in English from the compulsory English they will learn in primary school.
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Why should the Chinese learn English? Let the English Mandarin.

Ha ha! The truth comes out. You don't realize how stupid we are. We only speak English because we are unable to learn a second language. Africans who "we" call stupid speak 2-5 languages. Everybody else speaks at least 2.
Once you realize how stupid "we" are then you will begin to understand why "we" do the things "we" do.
Like those aliens in Spaced Invaders.
 
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English is easier to learn than mandarin, also how else can we educated those low IQ China attacking people if we can't communicate with them. They will just continue giving out lies.
 
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I started learning English in grade 4, which I think it's a little excessive. English should be a foreign language course starting in junior middle school.
 
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