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What you need to ask is this. Why is there relative stability and peace in Iranian Balochistan considering -

  • the Baloch being predominantly Sunni
  • Iranians being subjected to US and Israeli animosity

and why is it that Iranian Balochistan is far better developed compared to the primitive condition obtaining in Pakistan Balochistan. Resolve these questions and you might get the answer why RAW can operate so eassily here. I mean if it is so easy to clutch and squeeze the testicles of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by hidden hands why don't you unleash the hidden hands of the much vaunted ISI in India, Israel or Iran???
Here is obvious reason. Literacy rates

  • Iran Balochistan 76%
  • Pak Balochistan 41%
  • Punjab, Sindh and KP are 62%, 55% and 53% respectively
Iranian Balochistan is the most backward province in that country yet it has literacy rates higher than Pakistan Punjab the star of Pakistani education system. If some wizard can explain this galling fact we might get nearer resolving the issue of terrorism and hidden hands clutching our testicles.
 
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To the sectarian brigade and folks who view Persians with disgust in everything why would Iran play with poisonous Balochi separatists if that same poison will then attack Sistan Balochistan region it's our fault we treated Balochistan as just a desert and barren lands plus why hasn't there been investments in proper border security so bo random Tom,Dick and Harry can enter
our successive governments didnt do anything more worse to Balochistan than to people in every province of Pakistan. Baloch leadership itself is part of the problem

it is selfish and problematic and hurdle in the prosperity of its people like the powerful and mighty in Sindh, Punjab and KP. rest of the problem is inept and corrupt administration like the rest of Pakistan and ethnic rivalry between Baloch and Pashtons and tribal mentality in the area. its a complex issue and very hard to pin the blame on one party.
 
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Israel, UK, USA , France and their Arab allies have failed to deter the Iranians,
Iran-Iraq war. Death count -

Casualties and losses

Iran Military dead:

200,000–600,000[note 2]

Iraq Military dead:
105,000–500,000

Iran lost the total strength of entire Pakistan Army. Yet showed no lack of resolve to keep fighting. That is aukat like no other.
 
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Here is obvious reason. Literacy rates

  • Iran Balochistan 76%
  • Pak Balochistan 41%
  • Punjab, Sindh and KP are 62%, 55% and 53% respectively
Iranian Balochistan is the most backward province in that country yet it has literacy rates higher than Pakistan Punjab the star of Pakistani education system. If some wizard can explain this galling fact we might get nearer resolving the issue of terrorism and hidden hands clutching our testicles.

The difference between Zahedan and Tafatan two cities right across the border is quite spectacular but a lot of my friends from Iran call Zahedan a complete shithole by Iranian standards

Iran-Iraq war. Death count -

Casualties and losses

Iran Military dead:

200,000–600,000[note 2]

Iraq Military dead:
105,000–500,000

Iran lost the total strength of entire Pakistan Army. Yet showed no lack of resolve to keep fighting. That is aukat like no other.

And Iraq lost and then went into Kuwait damn Arabs as usual good at losing modern day warfare
 
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Why are you paddling propaganda of miscreants? As well explain, why you follow their media?



Here's the tweet from son of the soil and see which state he's implicating.
Iran needs a regime change. Pakistan can do it (with generous Foreign assist in military hardware and petro cash) OR Pakistanis can sit with thumbs up their rare, eyes close singing Shia-Sunni, Arab-Ajam Muntra. Sooner or later, Pakistanis will be fighting Iranian terror on it’s own. Solomani, who was considered to be the second most influential person in Iranian regime (after Ayatollah), and the master mind behind sectarian warfare in the ME, was on record pretty clear about Pakistan.
Pakistan needs to take Right decision at right time. Historically seldom done in Pakistan.
Israel, UK, USA , France and their Arab allies have failed to deter the Iranians,
I doubt if we can show them their aukat. our Baloch belly is attached with their Sistan.
we need to escalate it to a level which we can sustain. they are unfazed by the combined might of the west since the day of their revolution.
Your approach is apologist toward Iran.
 
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Iran needs a regime change. Pakistan can do it (with generous Foreign assist in military hardware and petro cash) OR Pakistanis can sit with thumbs up their rare, eyes close singing Shia-Sunni, Arab-Ajam Muntra Sooner or later, Pakistanis will be fighting Iranian terror on it’s own. Solomani, who was considered to be the second most influential person in Iranian regime (after Ayatollah), and the master mind behind sectarian warfare in the ME, was In record pretty clear about Pakistan.
Pakistan needs to take Right decision at right time. Historically seldom done in Pakistan.

Ok Hello US B-52 bombers on our frontiers you are advocating for Regime Change that would make the US glee after we spent two decades trying to push out of Afghanistan no thanks thankfully folks like you are in the making of foreign policy or in the army
 
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[QUOTE="Genghis khan1, post: 12358285, member:

Your approach apologist toward Iran.[/QUOTE]

What makes you think a more nationalistic Iran backed by the US would be better the current status quo is not perfect but granted I could see New Delhi would gain more foothold than ever if much more nationalistic regime were to come in power
 
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Ok Hello US B-52 bombers on our frontiers you are advocating for Regime Change that would make the US glee after we spent two decades trying to push out of Afghanistan no thanks thankfully folks like you are in the making of foreign policy or in the army


I know your Pro-Iranian stance. But no, your concern are unfounded. US fleet is stationed few hundred miles from Gawdar. B-52 were flying in Afghan. Iranian people are liberal and progressive. Change in regime will bring peace in the region.

[QUOTE="Genghis khan1, post: 12358285, member:

Your approach apologist toward Iran.

What makes you think a more nationalistic Iran backed by the US would be better the current status quo is not perfect but granted I could see New Delhi would gain more foothold than ever if much more nationalistic regime were to come in power[/QUOTE]

As long as Iranian mind their own business, they can be whatever they want.
 
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The difference between Zahedan and Tafatan two cities right across the border is quite spectacular but a lot of my friends from Iran call Zahedan a complete shithole by Iranian standards

We have no oil money and we have water issues in the province.

You cannot turn gas into water.

It is simply unfair to judge Pakistan like that.

Iran's expansionism has nothing to do with what date of which calendar it is.

Cross border terrorism emanating from Iran which threatens not only stability in Pakistan but also the fragile balance of Afghanistan staring another season of renewed wars.

Iran claims self sufficiency and war economy doctrine is stated from them.

At this moment in time Pakistan can only fence the border as both countries increasingly reach an impasse AGAIN in Afghanistan.
 
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I miss the good old days, hardly anyone knew because everyone was busy in eid celebration plus these so called "OSINT" were not running around the corner like kids....OPSEC / Mission Security was respect. I received the text and i think I shared that news with only one person on this forum....we dropped LGBs on their hideouts, pounded them hard. People only knew about the story weeks after when Sarfaraz Bugti came on tv along with IGFC on the Ongoing Operation....Special Operation elements along with Paramilitary Officers of ISI were deployed conducting the operation....FC SOW played a key role too....Please remember these unnamed warriors in your prayers today

What makes you think a more nationalistic Iran backed by the US would be better the current status quo is not perfect but granted I could see New Delhi would gain more foothold than ever if much more nationalistic regime were to come in power

I know your Pro-Iranian stance. But no, your concern are unfounded. US fleet is stationed few hundred miles from Gawdar. B-52 were flying in Afghan. Iranian people are liberal and progressive. Change in regime will bring peace in the region.



What makes you think a more nationalistic Iran backed by the US would be better the current status quo is not perfect but granted I could see New Delhi would gain more foothold than ever if much more nationalistic regime were to come in power

We have no oil money and we have water issues in the province.

You cannot turn gas into water.

It is simply unfair to judge Pakistan like that.

Iran's expansionism has nothing to do with what date of which calendar it is.

Cross border terrorism emanating from Iran which threatens not only stability in Pakistan but also the fragile balance of Afghanistan staring another season of renewed wars.

Iran claims self sufficiency and war economy doctrine is stated from them.

At this moment in time Pakistan can only fence the border as both countries increasingly reach an impasse AGAIN in Afghanistan.
Requesting you all to take this discussion somewhere else...this thread will to update ongoing operation in Balochistan, not for Iran vs Pakistan
 
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We heard the same crap when Iraq happen the liberal and more progressive types will take over after Saddam or what about the progressive Northern Alliance regime change never works its makes things worse and how many refugees could come as well and Tehran Liberals are small fraction of the Iranian people
Did you bother to read my above post?
 
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