Mahaaz with Wajahat Saeed Khan - Kashmir Ka Mahaaz - 18 February 2018

[Burhan Wani]

 

[Burhan Wani]

@DESERT FIGHTER @Maarkhoor @django @Zibago @waz

 

[django]

@Ulla @Signalian @Hell hound @Ocean @Gryphon @war&peace

 

[sparten]

Where the **** is our Air Force? A few LGB's should take care of the enemy posts targetting our people.

 

[YeBeWarned]

maybe Kashmiri's are better off without Pakistan, they want Independent Kashmir we should pull out our Forces .. It seems Kashmir is a lost cause and now its people are now openly talking about separating from Pakistan, in a sense its good that if Kashmir is gone we don't have to spend much money of defense as our rivalry with India will be gone ..

 

[Reichsmarschall]

maybe Kashmiri's are better off without Pakistan, they want Independent Kashmir we should pull out our Forces .. It seems Kashmir is a lost cause and now its people are now openly talking about separating from Pakistan, in a sense its good that if Kashmir is gone we don't have to spend much money of defense as our rivalry with India will be gone ..

what happened?

 

[YeBeWarned]

what happened?

Watch the Video

 

[Reichsmarschall]

this is really sad

 

[PakShaheen79]

maybe Kashmiri's are better off without Pakistan, they want Independent Kashmir we should pull out our Forces .. It seems Kashmir is a lost cause and now its people are now openly talking about separating from Pakistan, in a sense its good that if Kashmir is gone we don't have to spend much money of defense as our rivalry with India will be gone ..

People are still so naive in 21st century. Sir, Pakistan was crafted out of Indian sub-continent which many Indians especially RSS/BJP consider the occupied land of Hindus. Plus, the reservations of Kashmiris are legit. Actually, we must understand Indian Politico-Strategic policy here which aims to create a wedge between Pakistan and Kashmiris on our side. For this, they intentionally target children and women. In a conservative society, this generates a bigger debate about survival. India is upping the ante at LoC in pursuance of this policy. Political and strategic leadership will have to come up with a counter of Indian strategy ASAP. AJK govt. must be seen standing with these Kashmiris and this would be a good start IMHO.

 

[El Sidd]

A humbling experience indeed.

Lifes will to survive and flourish is unmatched wonder.

 

[YeBeWarned]

People are still so naive in 21st century. Sir, Pakistan was crafted out of Indian sub-continent which many Indians especially RSS/BJP consider the occupied land of Hindus. Plus, the reservations of Kashmiris are legit. Actually, we must understand Indian Politico-Strategic policy here which aims to create a wedge between Pakistan and Kashmiris on our side. For this, they intentionally target children and women. In a conservative society, this generates a bigger debate about survival. India is upping the ante at LoC in pursuance of this policy. Political and strategic leadership will have to come up with a counter of Indian strategy ASAP. AJK govt. must be seen standing with these Kashmiris and this would be a good start IMHO.

The Kashmiri's are indeed victims but that does not means to raise Question over the intention of a Country has given blood for them ? i call such people ungrateful , Kashmiri's has F'd us in 65 , which lead to a war that could have resulted in either their independence or merging with Pakistan but they identified those SSG to Indian forces which later leads to Indians attacking the International Border , and now People in Azad Kashmir are spitting on the graves of Dead Pakistani Soldiers .. so if Independence is what they desire Pakistan should give them, and leave them aside to Tackle Indian Forces on their own and see how far they get ..

 

[hussain0216]

The Kashmiri's are indeed victims but that does not means to raise Question over the intention of a Country has given blood for them ? i call such people ungrateful , Kashmiri's has F'd us in 65 , which lead to a war that could have resulted in either their independence or merging with Pakistan but they identified those SSG to Indian forces which later leads to Indians attacking the International Border , and now People in Azad Kashmir are spitting on the graves of Dead Pakistani Soldiers .. so if Independence is what they desire Pakistan should give them, and leave them aside to Tackle Indian Forces on their own and see how far they get ..

Who the hell said Kashmiri's want independence???

Every region probably in the world has some fraction of populace that wants some sort of independence
Here in the UK, there are Cornish nationalists, Welsh nationalists, Scottish nationalists, Irish nationalists, Yorkshire nationalists the list is endless

A free referendum across all of Kashmir today would get a resounding victory for Pakistan, followed by a minority for independence and last a smaller minority for India, this is why the Indians refuse a referendum they know the result already

We need to stop getting emotional over every little thing

 

[YeBeWarned]

Who the hell said Kashmiri's want independence???

Every region probably in the world has some fraction of populace that wants some sort of independence
Here in the UK, there are Cornish nationalists, Welsh nationalists, Scottish nationalists, Irish nationalists, Yorkshire nationalists the list is endless

A free referendum across all of Kashmir today would get a resounding victory for Pakistan, followed by a minority for independence and last a smaller minority for India, this is why the Indians refuse a referendum they know the result already

We need to stop getting emotional over every little thing

Not Emotional, if Kashmiri wants freedom from Pakistan, they should get it ..

 

[hussain0216]

Not Emotional, if Kashmiri wants freedom from Pakistan, they should get it ..

Sure, but it doesn't

 

[PakShaheen79]

The Kashmiri's are indeed victims but that does not means to raise Question over the intention of a Country has given blood for them ? i call such people ungrateful , Kashmiri's has F'd us in 65 , which lead to a war that could have resulted in either their independence or merging with Pakistan but they identified those SSG to Indian forces which later leads to Indians attacking the International Border , and now People in Azad Kashmir are spitting on the graves of Dead Pakistani Soldiers .. so if Independence is what they desire Pakistan should give them, and leave them aside to Tackle Indian Forces on their own and see how far they get ..

Ok. We gave them freedom, India took that and then WHAT? Genius!

Did Pakistan Army do any kind of groundwork before launching op inside IOK in 65? NO! Further... What do you think, PA was to capture entire IOK without IA knowing about it? That plan had some serious shortcomings just like Kargil. Did you even listen to the complaints those people made in the program? I don't think so. And no one said a single bad word about PA. So, keep your emotion out of this debate please and see the map of contested Kashmir as it was before Oct. 1947 ... GB is part of it.