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Caesar International Ltd.. a Saudi company..
50 vehicles are integrated per month in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Up till now 3000 vehicles were integrated locally..
50000 training hours..
50% Saudi Employees
155mm Caesar howitzer: ToT
IRAAF armored vehicle:
The armored vehicle has 8 versions:
Jameh multi-role armored vehicle: The armored vehicle has 18 versions..
Sakhr armored vehicle: The armored vehicle is IED-resistant, and is protected against ambushes
50 vehicles are integrated per month in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Up till now 3000 vehicles were integrated locally..
50000 training hours..
50% Saudi Employees
155mm Caesar howitzer: ToT
IRAAF armored vehicle:
The armored vehicle has 8 versions:
Jameh multi-role armored vehicle: The armored vehicle has 18 versions..
Sakhr armored vehicle: The armored vehicle is IED-resistant, and is protected against ambushes
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The system has been exported to 4 countries, two of which are not disclosed yet. (Other two are Pakistan and Azerbaijan) It was also announced that there are countries whose sales negotiations are continuing, but since the agreements on this issue have not been finalized yet, the names of the countries have not been mentioned yet.
Saudi Arabian defense companies are currently collaborating with Lentatek (Vestel Defense) in the tactical class.
Obviously, the expansion of this cooperation with Baykar Tech will naturally be a development that will strengthen the possibility of Saudi Arabia's participation in UCAV Kızılelma/MIUS.
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Do you or someone else have an overview of all the domestically produced Saudi Arabian drones or those that are currently in development? Some have been posted in this thread but I see no full overview.
Also do we have a list of all the drone deals that KSA has signed with foreign countries? I remember large deals with China and a factory being built to produce the CAIG Wing Loong II within KSA. Talk of the CH-5 too. Turkish Vestel etc.
With a fast jet fleet second only in capability terms to Israel in the Middle East, the Royal Saudi Air Force (RSAF) is not short of traditional means to conduct its long-running air campaigns.
However, Saudi Arabia has also joined those countries that look at drone capability as an additional asset. In 2014, the country purchased two Chinese CH-4s, although these may well be the unarmed ‘A’ variant rather than the armed ‘B’, and five larger and more heavily armed Wing Loong IIs.
In terms of imports, therefore, the Kingdom has purchased remarkably few armed UAVs in comparison to its huge purchases of fast jets and other high-end military equipment.
Nonetheless, it has announced ambitious plans to manufacture its own armed drones, obtaining a licence from the Chinese state-owned Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) to develop up to 300 Wing Loong and potentially CASC’s new heavyweight CH-5 armed UAVs.[1]
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[1] Joanna Frew, ‘Drone Wars: The Next Generation’, Drone Wars UK, May 2018, pp. 19–20; Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), ‘SIPRI Arms Transfers Database’.
However, Saudi Arabia has also joined those countries that look at drone capability as an additional asset. In 2014, the country purchased two Chinese CH-4s, although these may well be the unarmed ‘A’ variant rather than the armed ‘B’, and five larger and more heavily armed Wing Loong IIs.
In terms of imports, therefore, the Kingdom has purchased remarkably few armed UAVs in comparison to its huge purchases of fast jets and other high-end military equipment.
Nonetheless, it has announced ambitious plans to manufacture its own armed drones, obtaining a licence from the Chinese state-owned Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) to develop up to 300 Wing Loong and potentially CASC’s new heavyweight CH-5 armed UAVs.[1]
NOTE
[1] Joanna Frew, ‘Drone Wars: The Next Generation’, Drone Wars UK, May 2018, pp. 19–20; Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), ‘SIPRI Arms Transfers Database’.
How much do we really know about the status quo given the secrecy of KSA?
Just out of pure interest, is Turkey cooperating with any outside party in the development of MIUS? I see that the planned introduction is for next year.
What could be the realistic participation of KSA in such a project?
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Launching the work of developing, manufacturing and localizing “unmanned aircraft” systems in coordination between the General Authority for Military Industries and Intra Defense Technologies, which has an industrial license from the authority, as it aims to launch 6 unmanned aircraft systems in 2021, and 40 systems within 5 years..Do you or someone else have an overview of all the domestically produced Saudi Arabian drones or those that are currently in development? Some have been posted in this thread but I see no full overview.
Also do we have a list of all the drone deals that KSA has signed with foreign countries? I remember large deals with China and a factory being built to produce the CAIG Wing Loong II within KSA. Talk of the CH-5 too. Turkish Vestel etc.
With a fast jet fleet second only in capability terms to Israel in the Middle East, the Royal Saudi Air Force (RSAF) is not short of traditional means to conduct its long-running air campaigns.
However, Saudi Arabia has also joined those countries that look at drone capability as an additional asset. In 2014, the country purchased two Chinese CH-4s, although these may well be the unarmed ‘A’ variant rather than the armed ‘B’, and five larger and more heavily armed Wing Loong IIs.
In terms of imports, therefore, the Kingdom has purchased remarkably few armed UAVs in comparison to its huge purchases of fast jets and other high-end military equipment.
Nonetheless, it has announced ambitious plans to manufacture its own armed drones, obtaining a licence from the Chinese state-owned Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) to develop up to 300 Wing Loong and potentially CASC’s new heavyweight CH-5 armed UAVs.[1]
NOTE
[1] Joanna Frew, ‘Drone Wars: The Next Generation’, Drone Wars UK, May 2018, pp. 19–20; Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), ‘SIPRI Arms Transfers Database’.
How much do we really know about the status quo given the secrecy of KSA?
Just out of pure interest, is Turkey cooperating with any outside party in the development of MIUS? I see that the planned introduction is for next year.
What could be the realistic participation of KSA in such a project?
In coordination between the General Authority for Military Industries and Intra Defense Technologies, the company has launched construction and manufacturing work in the field of developing, manufacturing and maintaining unmanned aircraft systems. The project is scheduled to start operating during the first quarter of 2021, with an expected investment of 750 million riyals.
The authority aims to build a pioneering technical innovation base regionally and internationally to develop the maintenance, manufacture and localization of unmanned aircraft systems. Intra Defense Technologies - a Saudi company licensed by the authority - will secure a number of categories of advanced drone systems that differ in tasks and performance and with high competitiveness at the level of technology and cost.
In a statement by the Governor of the General Authority for Military Industries, Eng. Ahmed bin Abdulaziz Al-Ohali, confirmed that the project to develop maintenance, manufacture and localization of unmanned aircraft systems comes to achieve the general strategy of the authority, which is based on its three pillars, namely industry, research and technology, and procurement, as well as to achieve the strategic goal of the Kingdom, which was established by the Crown Prince. The Covenant of Prince Muhammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, represented in the localization of more than 50% of the Kingdom’s military spending by 2030, which is the main motivation for our work over the next ten years, in direct cooperation with the military and security authorities.
He added: We in the authority seek to empower the military industries sector in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to become a major tributary of its economy and a major contributor to providing job opportunities for Saudi youth, and to advance development by enhancing non-oil revenues, in addition to enhancing the Kingdom’s strategic independence in this sector, and strengthening the foundations of its security national and support its economic and social prosperity.
He affirmed his pride in the presence of a number of local manufacturers with increased interest from the industrial and service private sector, pointing out that what the Kingdom owns today will be the basis on which we will build the military industry to achieve transformation in this sector with the unlimited support of the leadership and an unprecedented level of openness for the Kingdom, which raises its position. Day after day as a destination for investment in all fields, stressing that the number of companies licensed by the authority to date has reached 25 national companies working in the field of military industries.
For his part, the CEO of Intra Defense Technologies Company, Salman bin Nasser Al-Shathri, confirmed that the project to develop maintenance, manufacture and localization of unmanned aircraft systems will start operating, God willing, during the first quarter of 2021, with a total investment of 750 million riyals, indicating that the average percentage of localization in the project is estimated at 60% of the total business and components.
And Mr. Al-Shathri added: This project, God willing, will create approximately 500 direct jobs, with a Saudization rate of 70% of the total number of jobs, and the project aims to reach a percentage of foreign exports estimated at 60% of the total business volume.
The Governor of the General Authority for Military Industries had previously witnessed the inauguration of the “Asif” drone as part of the authority’s support for Saudi companies operating and investing in the sector, as it was designed and manufactured by Intra Defense Technologies and with Saudi hands according to military standards, as the curtain was revealed for the first time. Once at the Dubai Airshow 2019, which operates in a tactical manner, and is equipped with advanced equipment usually associated with larger drone systems where it can carry out a wide range of reconnaissance missions, including border patrols, pipeline inspections, highway patrols and more.
https://maaal.com/tag/الصناعات-العسكرية/
Interview with Abdulsalam Ghamdi, INTRA Defence Technologies
INTRA Defense Technologies counts on a state-of-the-art R&D Centre, unique in the region. What are the main technologies you are working on and the technology challenges to focus on?
INTRA is focusing on three main technologies which are Unmanned Systems and Sub-systems, Electro-optical systems, and communication systems. Our Engineering & Development team is working in the design, development, and testing of operational and tactical Unmanned Aerial Systems that providing Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition, Reconnaissance missions. Other unmanned systems which INTRA is providing to the local commercial and industrial sector as low cost, reliable, saving time solutions, include Unmanned Ground Vehicles, Unmanned Sea Vehicles, and Remotely Operated Underwater Vehicles by teaming with international technology partners to transfer and localize Artificial Intelligence, Internet of Things, and Data Processing technologies embedded in those systems. INTRA has a track record in performing technical studies to integrate different aerial and ground sub-systems that include payloads, and sensors that include EO/IR cameras, radar systems, satellite communications systems, and weapon systems. INTRA is also providing a highly mobile and modular Ground Segment and communication System to store and transport Unmanned Aerial systems and Ground Support Equipment and provide encrypted high-speed Command and Control to the Unmanned Aerial System
Training, partnership, and technology transfer are demanded on UAS industry. What are Intras main core strengths in UAS design and manufacturing?
Since its establishment, INTRA has built technical capabilities and competent teams with very advanced skills working on the highest international standards to design, develop, and operate different Unmanned Systems.
INTRA has invested heavily in development of different UAS and Payloads, including the development of the first local VTOL UAS “ASEF” that has been announced in Dubai Airshow 2019, the INTRA’s VTOL will be fully operational this year.
INTRA has established the first UAS manufacturing facility in KSA with the highest international standards to meet the increasing demand for UAS systems, the factory area is estimated at more than 6000 square meters, it will be used to manufacture, assembly and test of different UAS. INTRA has also established Development and MRO center in Riyadh for the UAS subsystems such as Electro-Optics and other systems.
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MIUS is a long-term project. The variant, which will make its first flight next year, will actually be a technological demonstration. The first block will be highsubsonic and (I presume) is largely based on the accumulation of AKINCI.
In the long run, a supersonic fighter/interceptor is the goal, and in that sense it differs from the ongoing loyal-wing projects. MIUS aims not only to serve on the same wing with MMU, but also to be able to face the new generation jets separately. There is a topic I opened on this subject, we compared the theoretical maneuvering capabilities of some current fighters with MIUS. The whole world will sooner or later have to shift to such unmanned systems, except for some spesific of tactical and strategic missions types. Countries that start this process early will be advantageous. The challenge here is not to develop an aircraft only, but to create a platform that is fully autonomous and freed from the limitations of the human factor.
Of course, the MIUS project, as an SSB project, is developing in line with the needs and requests of the TAF. Starting from the 2030s, MIUS (Kızılelma) and MMU (TF-Anadolu Kartalı) will begin to be the fighter/interceptor jet platforms of the Turkish air forces as the two main platforms, manned and unmanned.
However, just like in other aviation projects of SSB, it can be seen as certain that this system will be shared to friendly and allied countries. As for the situation we are speculating here, frankly, I do not have detailed information about the established capabilities of KSA, the only thing I know is that the political will in KSA is desiring a domestic defense industry cluster and technical competence in compliance with current international aerospace standards and competence. Therefore, I believe that the Turkish defense industry, which follows a much more open policy in transferring know-how compared to western institutions, can be a valuable partner for KSA.
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https://www.zawya.com/en/projects/i...-reclamation-complex-in-saudi-arabia-c92jmyqi
https://www.smart-energy.com/storag...ian-gw-scale-vanadium-redox-battery-facility/
https://ig9we1q348z124x3t10meupc-wp...AMG-Saudi-Arabia-Project-Update-July-2022.pdf
Rising flow battery demand ‘will drive global vanadium production to double by 2031’
The vanadium redox flow battery (VRFB) industry is poised for significant growth in the coming years, equal to nearly 33GWh a year of deployments by 2030, according to new forecasting.
https://www.energy-storage.news/ris...global-vanadium-production-to-double-by-2031/
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That is actually quite important and strategic news. I knew that KSA is incredibly blessed in terms of natural resources and mineral wealth (second in the world just behind Russia) but I did not know that KSA was becoming pivotal for the supply and demand of vanadium.
Vanadium-alloyed steels are used in virtually every high-strength structural steel application in military equipment, including military-grade AH36, AH32, and MIL22698 steels used to build U.S. Naval aircraft carriers and submarines, as well as in combat vehicles, tactical vehicles etc.
Vanadium can be used to make steel alloys, for use in space vehicles, nuclear reactors and aircraft carriers, etc.
Many are not aware of it but actually the entire petrochemical sector in KSA is immense and has developed into pure chemicals, plastics etc. KSA is a global player on this front already. SABIC for instance comes to mind.
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The project was very successful:
1- The integration of the first Saudi combat system on the corvette, meaning that the corvette can add any system that Saudi Arabia wants because the combat system is special in it
2- Training of Saudi cadres and engineers in the Spanish company
3- Speed of delivery due to the actual need of the Saudi Navy
In the future, Saudi Arabia will add its own combat system to all of its ships..
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Determination of Arabs can't be underestimated, they have resources/Manpower and will, last time they rode out to achieve something they ended up making one of the greatest Khilafat the world has ever seen.
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The Howitzer is excellent and has a very advanced firing and control system, it is characterized by its speed of preparation for firing within 3 minutes .. but the important thing is that the deal includes the two most important elements to sustain operation without referring to the manufacturer, which are:
1. (Manufacture of artillery shells locally), especially guided munitions and rocket-propelled grenades.
2. Maintenance, manufacture and replacement of spare parts that break down quickly at the very least.
So in this regard, it is a successful deal by all standards.
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(SAMI) signs a number of agreements with the Singaporean ST Engineering Group..
The agreements will enable SAMI to develop defense systems to support accelerated strategic growth
SAMI, the leading national partner in the defense industries of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and wholly owned by the Public Investment Fund, has signed a number of strategic agreements with ST Engineering, the leading Singaporean group in the fields of technology, defense and engineering, on the sidelines of the Farnborough International Airshow, which is being held in the United Kingdom from 18 to July 21st.
The agreements signed today will provide support to SAMI in terms of producing advanced defense systems, implementing its strategies for development and growth in many defense equipment and capabilities, as well as providing and providing technical support and training services, as it is expected that the next phase will witness close cooperation between both SAMI and the Group ST Engineering to enhance the defense capabilities of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
OEM ST Engineering was chosen by SAMI as its partner based on the Singaporean company's experience and history in the production and supply of defense-related equipment. These agreements also aim to benefit from the strength of the ST Engineering Group's brand and its global standing, as well as expressing SAMI's continued keenness to build partnerships that enhance its competitiveness.
It is worth noting that the cooperation between SAMI and ST Engineering Group began for the first time in 2019, when the two sides worked to start implementing and developing the partnership, which continues to focus on sustainable practices and innovating solutions that provide an added value to defense capabilities in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
The agreements will enable SAMI to develop defense systems to support accelerated strategic growth
SAMI, the leading national partner in the defense industries of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and wholly owned by the Public Investment Fund, has signed a number of strategic agreements with ST Engineering, the leading Singaporean group in the fields of technology, defense and engineering, on the sidelines of the Farnborough International Airshow, which is being held in the United Kingdom from 18 to July 21st.
The agreements signed today will provide support to SAMI in terms of producing advanced defense systems, implementing its strategies for development and growth in many defense equipment and capabilities, as well as providing and providing technical support and training services, as it is expected that the next phase will witness close cooperation between both SAMI and the Group ST Engineering to enhance the defense capabilities of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
OEM ST Engineering was chosen by SAMI as its partner based on the Singaporean company's experience and history in the production and supply of defense-related equipment. These agreements also aim to benefit from the strength of the ST Engineering Group's brand and its global standing, as well as expressing SAMI's continued keenness to build partnerships that enhance its competitiveness.
It is worth noting that the cooperation between SAMI and ST Engineering Group began for the first time in 2019, when the two sides worked to start implementing and developing the partnership, which continues to focus on sustainable practices and innovating solutions that provide an added value to defense capabilities in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
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BAE Systems and Embraer alliance to market the C-390 in Saudi Arabia
BAE Systems, Europe's largest defense contractor, is considering moving into the military air transport business through a strategic partnership with Brazilian aircraft manufacturer Embraer.
The two companies opened the second day of the Farnborough Air Show in England on July 19 by announcing that they had signed a Memorandum of Understanding to pursue a potential deal with Saudi Arabia for the Embraer C-390 aircraft.
They said in a statement that the goal is to establish a partnership for cooperation in the Middle East and other markets.
Ian Muldoni, chief operating officer of BAE Systems Air, said details of the potential scope of the strategic partnership were still not available. Ayan added that the collaboration "recognizes the C-390 Millennium's capability combined with BAE Systems' extensive knowledge and understanding of international markets including expertise in standing up to military capabilities and providing manufacturing through support, maintenance and training solutions for complex aircraft."
BAE has had a significant industrial presence in Saudi Arabia for decades on the back of huge deals in the aerospace sector that included Typhoons, Tornados and Hawks.
The C-390, known as the Millennium, is a multi-mission platform that can be used for military transport, as an air-to-air refueling tank or for other missions.
The C-390 MOU was one of two agreements that the British company and Embraer signed at the show. The two sides also confirmed their intention to establish a joint venture to develop the electric-powered VTOL (Vertical Take-Off and Landing Vehicle) defense variant originally designed by Embraer-backed Eve for the urban mobility market.
At the show, Eve Holding announced a non-binding letter of intent with Embraer and BAE to explore potential demand for up to 150 electric vertical take-off and landing vehicles with a view to examining opportunities for these aircraft for the defense and security markets.
https://www.baesystems.com/en/artic...ration-for-the-c-390-millennium-and-eve-evtol
BAE Systems, Europe's largest defense contractor, is considering moving into the military air transport business through a strategic partnership with Brazilian aircraft manufacturer Embraer.
The two companies opened the second day of the Farnborough Air Show in England on July 19 by announcing that they had signed a Memorandum of Understanding to pursue a potential deal with Saudi Arabia for the Embraer C-390 aircraft.
They said in a statement that the goal is to establish a partnership for cooperation in the Middle East and other markets.
Ian Muldoni, chief operating officer of BAE Systems Air, said details of the potential scope of the strategic partnership were still not available. Ayan added that the collaboration "recognizes the C-390 Millennium's capability combined with BAE Systems' extensive knowledge and understanding of international markets including expertise in standing up to military capabilities and providing manufacturing through support, maintenance and training solutions for complex aircraft."
BAE has had a significant industrial presence in Saudi Arabia for decades on the back of huge deals in the aerospace sector that included Typhoons, Tornados and Hawks.
The C-390, known as the Millennium, is a multi-mission platform that can be used for military transport, as an air-to-air refueling tank or for other missions.
The C-390 MOU was one of two agreements that the British company and Embraer signed at the show. The two sides also confirmed their intention to establish a joint venture to develop the electric-powered VTOL (Vertical Take-Off and Landing Vehicle) defense variant originally designed by Embraer-backed Eve for the urban mobility market.
At the show, Eve Holding announced a non-binding letter of intent with Embraer and BAE to explore potential demand for up to 150 electric vertical take-off and landing vehicles with a view to examining opportunities for these aircraft for the defense and security markets.
https://www.baesystems.com/en/artic...ration-for-the-c-390-millennium-and-eve-evtol
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KACST keeps surprising in a very good way.
More positive news.
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