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London fire vs. 9-11 fire

So If a random white guy says something about "rockfellers" and you jump into yahoodi sazish bandwagon you need to take your medications. Timely as well I might add .

Also this Israeli celebrating thing has been debunked so many times but carry on if it helps you to sleep in night believing that .

how has it been debunked? i included uss liberty victim talking about how israelis tried to sink thier ships false flag operation, did you even watched it no i bet you didnt. This victim was on board and witness the event including becoming disabled from fire power from israeli plane.

so you believe some arabs with box cutters manage hijack a plane from the world mightist military power okay.

you entitled to say what you think but i have mine.
 
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Let's be clear about one thing, Grenfell protestors barging into Kensington Town Hall in rage demanding answers from local Council is their absolute right. In a time of urgency and desperation it wasn't councils that held doors open, but local communities. Witnessing people being burnt alive and screaming for help in a property which was neglected and denied basic Health Safety checks. Law abiding civil dialogues can only be exchanged with law abiding & people protecting Government. This Government has failed people. Majority of the residence was poor and disabled. Heartbreaking. #London #Grenfell
 
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I love such threads ! You can list out the idiots on the forum just by visiting a thread !
For idiots, every one is idiot.
Go get some education, instead of trolling like Indians.

How can cold air be pushing into the building by air duct, when there is a fire inside the building?
You said cooling systems were exploding, I replied in construction of cooling system there's nothing to explode, its just a duct through which air is running.

Next up: The dollar is dead.
For your kind next up is; There is no oil in Saudi.
 
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http://www.tomatobubble.com/manhattan_project.html

Just a reminder.

100,000 CONSPIRATORS WORKING IN 3 SECRET CITIES!
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The next time an Anti-conspiracy theorist tells you: "It's impossible for the government to hide something that big!" - show them this story!

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Sick MONSTERS! Einstein & Szilard wanted to nuke the women and children of Germany!
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August 2nd,1939
- The world is still at peace when a letter, signed by Jewish scientist Albert Einstein, is sent to FDR. In the letter, co-written with three other Jewish scientists (Szilard, Teller, and Wigner) the mad scientists urge FDR to fund a research program for the purpose of developing an Atomic Bomb (to be used on Germany.)
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Later that year, FDR initiates the Briggs Advisory Committee to explore the matter. Out of Briggs grows the S-1 Uranium Committee. By 1942, S-1 becomes the "Manhattan Project."
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For nearly 3 years, many of the world's top scientists will be holed up in reclusive research facilities across the U.S. The Project is supported by the military and 100,000 workers (most of them kept ignorant of "the Big Picture"). It culminates with the dropping of the Atomic bombs on Japan (Hiroshima, August 6, 45 and Nagasaki, August 10, 45)...


http://tomatobubble.com/id1053.html

Let us hear what the POTUS thinks of the 9/11 attacks.


As a builder of skyscrapers, surely, Donald Trump understands enough about construction and engineering to know that the official story about two planes pulverizing three buildings on 9/11is about as credible as Killary's "pneumonia" or Obongo's birth certificate. Heck, a mildly retarded 10-year-old who takes the time to watch the events closley could appreciate the physical impossibilty of what is alleged to have happened that day.

What we find particularly intriguing is the recent discovery of a day-of-9/11 interview in which Trump openly expressed his disbelief that aluminum airplanes alone could have taken down the Twin Towers.

Trump on 9/11:

"I happen to think that they had not only a plane, but they had bombs that exploded almost simultaneously because I just can't imagine anything being able to go through the wall."

Is it possible that events of that history-altering day have tormented Trump as it has the rest of us "truthers?" Could his controversial references to "Muslims seen dancing on 9/11" be a cryptic reference to the five "Dancing Israelis" who were the only suspects arrested on that day? Is it possible that a President Trump, as Professor Kevin Barrett first suggested, may turn the tables on the neo-con evil doers and bring them to justice? Surely, President Putin of Russia, whose underlings have also dropped hints of 9/11 truth, would support him in such an effort.

If Trump is elevated and inaugurated (and the former does not necessarily guarantee the latter!), we will not hold our breaths waiting for a new and honest re-investigation of the false-flag attacks. Trump may be brave, but he is not suicidal. However, on the basis of what you are about to hear in the You Tube video posted below, perhaps there is a long-shot chance that it could happen. Trump, if he were to survive while pulling off a "bully pulpit" 9/11 truth campaign, would go down in history as a heroic American figure -- succeeding where the great Joe McCarthy could not.

Speaking of the legendary Senator from Wisconsin who tried to smoke out the agents of the New World Order, Trump once referred to McCarthy's right-hand man, Roy Cohen, as one of his "mentors." Though Cohen was a Jewish homosexual who eventually died of AIDS in 1988, he hated the Reds and defended McCarthy until the very end. Just something to think about, and to hang some desperate final hope upon. But again, don't get too excited.

Have a look at the amazing Trump 9/11 video down below, and please share this page.


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Young Roy Cohen assisted Joe McCarthy and never apologized for it. Cohen later became a good friend and confidante of Donald Trump.
 
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@MastanKhan
Thank you Sir for your detailed response. I have further remarks to your post.

Regarding the projectile thing, everything is possible but what I saw in video was an airplane slicing through the iron mass like a hot knife into butter.
That was as unbelievable stuff, as i may see elephant flying with aid of his ears ;)

'General stuff caught fire' I refer as building fire.
Building fire- i.e. London fire, or any other building around us on fire.
When Building fire is contained in time, either by design or by quick response, i.e. its been put out in 3-4 hours, than surely building has subjected to heat for relative shorter time, than compare to out of control fires, where fire gradually goes down because there's nothing more left to catch fire (no more combustible material).

No sir, concrete cannot catch fire in open air environment.
Concrete always absorb moisture, slowly but permanently. Hence there can't be residual moisture in old buildings, unless water is poured in constantly.
Yet, I don't know what was the volume of concrete in twin tower, sure there was residues of concrete and metal, fused together.

Twin-towers collapsed in matter of minutes, there was such a limited fire and time that it can't possibly melt huge volume of steel all around, evenly and identically in 3 buildings.

When a design is laid, there are always fuse structures added. In case of steel structures/buildings- joints, rivets, bolts.. can be considered as fuses/weak links.
Floors were spread over light trusses, which should have melted before the gigantic structural columns, which weigh tons and those again are riveted/bolted to each other with stronger elements, while trusses hang on them with relatively weaker joint elements.
In case of over weight, individual trusses should break off from their joints, rather than core structure.

Each building of twin tower, had an inner structure, which was independent of outer structure.
damage to the structure of outer perimeter may not lead to collapse of building. definitely not in free fall.

There were explosions in orderly manner. Those were definitely not the random explosions of bursting structure or auxiliaries.

Buildings are sealed and insulated from outer environment but they are not airtight.
Fresh air is regulated in buildings, based on temp. humidity and occupancy.
In order to save energy there are heat exchangers available in air-handling units aka AHU.

Glass windows and the cladding, were surely seen blowing outwards, along with concrete pulver. I must admit, I'm not familiar of a fire which can blow away concrete and steel in matter of minutes, and in tuned rhythm !!! There must be a science behind, but I cannot relate it to fire/impact/jet fuel.

Weight of the air craft was fraction of the weight, those buildings were design to bear.
However, each floor have its limit, because of the relatively weaker trusses and their joints.
Your theory is right, in case if whole aircraft is parked on a floor, surpassing the weight limit of that floor, than it must sag or worst fall off. Readily we don't know, what was that limit and the situation was certainly complicated, when fiber/aluminum plane disappeared into various floors of twin tower.
Actually, you raised a good point. Someone should check the aspect ratios of plane and building floors and analyze it.

Sir, try to quiz some of your friendly client who happenz to be a structural engineer or metallurgical engineer.
 
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A friend of mine received this from an insider. A 'D' notice is when the government imposes restrictions on reporting for the sake of 'national security' or to prevent riots and mayhem. "I cant put this on facebook as such because I cannot risk it being traced back to the source i asked a senior fire officer I know about fatalities he said he cannot tell me he worried he would lose his job I said I had heard the number 150 mentioned he said that's an underestimation but the government want to put a "D" notice on the incident fearing social unrest you didn't get this from me ok?"

They're hiding the number of deaths.
 
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A friend of mine received this from an insider. A 'D' notice is when the government imposes restrictions on reporting for the sake of 'national security' or to prevent riots and mayhem. "I cant put this on facebook as such because I cannot risk it being traced back to the source i asked a senior fire officer I know about fatalities he said he cannot tell me he worried he would lose his job I said I had heard the number 150 mentioned he said that's an underestimation but the government want to put a "D" notice on the incident fearing social unrest you didn't get this from me ok?"

They're hiding the number of deaths.

I can imagine. That building if was occupied by Brits with foreign roots, than suerly building was over populated.
I'm sure each room of building must be having 2 occupants. If number of rooms is known, occupancy can be calculated.
 
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I can imagine. That building if was occupied by Brits with foreign roots, than suerly building was over populated.
I'm sure each room of building must be having 2 occupants. If number of rooms is known, occupancy can be calculated.

The government knows fine well that the number of dead is well into three figures. It would have been virtually impossible for people above the 10th floor to survive, and with 6 flats per floor, these flats could have contained around 200 or more people. You can't micromanage grief.
 
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No oil in Saudi means no PetroDollars means the Dollar is dead! :D

I guess you failed to understand my remark, which was in reference to conspiracy theories we are being constantly fed about Saudi Arabia.
Anyhow, there are only 3 type of compulsive trolls on this forum
1- Your tribe
2- Your masters
3- Hindus

Now to answer your troll, you clearly can't imagine, what happens, when USD is dead.

The government knows fine well that the number of dead is well into three figures. It would have been virtually impossible for people above the 10th floor to survive, and with 6 flats per floor, these flats could have contained around 200 or more people. You can't micromanage grief.

In that case, my experienced guess: It was govt. doing immigration control.
 
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You said cooling systems were exploding, I replied in construction of cooling system there's nothing to explode, its just a duct through which air is running.

I never said cooling system were exploding, I said, debris could have start a electrical fire with air conditioning system. Debris could have sip into the air conditioning unit, either jamming the mechanical work of an air conditioning, and fire broke out due to overheating or shorting the internal circuit inside the Air Conditioning unit and start a electrical fire that way.

Air Duct and Air Conditioning unit are two different thing.
 
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I guess you failed to understand my remark, which was in reference to conspiracy theories we are being constantly fed about Saudi Arabia.
Anyhow, there are only 3 type of compulsive trolls on this forum
1- Your tribe
2- Your masters
3- Hindus

Now to answer your troll, you clearly can't imagine, what happens, when USD is dead.

The only trolls here are the conspiracy theory nutjobs, but don't let that fact stop any of them at all, since they have management support. :D
 
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