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The poorest of poor Arab countries have a better living standard and general cleanliness than Pakistan.
Looool name me one? I don't think you have ever been to Pakistan and think the average village is what Pakistan is.
 
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Let me guess... an "offline" and "stand-alone" version of F-35.. with reduced VLO features, datalink and sensors... sort of like an iPhone 13 but with no data or wifi connection, only voice and SMS... But maybe for some countries it's better to have an "offline" F-35 rather than having one which needs always to be connected to Lockmart (and US DoD) to operate..
 
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So Allah bestowed them with oil that makes them clever ... Nice irfan bhai

I guess nawaz shareef and bhuttos are smart too
don't be emotional
they are smart with money.
oil money os not limitless. even having oil won't help if a country is corrupt idiot and mismanaged like Nigeria.
 
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don't be emotional
they are smart with money.
oil money os not limitless. even having oil won't help if a country is corrupt idiot and mismanaged like Nigeria.
Bhai. Come on...smart people don't behave as slaves. The difference between Nigeria and the Arabs is that the Arab population is nothing in comparison. Don't think they are not corrupt. They are extremely corrupt.

Regarding Pakistan we sadly are a nation of theives and corruption has become a demigod for us. Our people literally worship money
 
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The ALIS is headquartered in the USA. Even if the system currently offered to allied countries is not downgraded, it is completely under the control of the USA. Now, as if it wasn't enough to keep the logistics information and perhaps all the critical operational information of the operative countries under control, they are downgrading this system and creating a variant...
 
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The ALIS is headquartered in the USA. Even if the system currently offered to allied countries is not downgraded, it is completely under the control of the USA. Now, as if it wasn't enough to keep the logistics information and perhaps all the critical operational information of the operative countries under control, they are downgrading this system and creating a variant...

It is quite possible that the variant being created is not a downgraded variant - but one that does not need to connect to ALIS in USA or allow for a local ALIS installation allowing for sovereign control ?

ALIS has been a recurring issue and one that the americans may well be addressing.
 
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The ALIS is headquartered in the USA. Even if the system currently offered to allied countries is not downgraded, it is completely under the control of the USA. Now, as if it wasn't enough to keep the logistics information and perhaps all the critical operational information of the operative countries under control, they are downgrading this system and creating a variant...

Yup here is the link,

 
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Singapore source said it is likely Singapore, just minor modification for their 4 ordered planes ( and possible subsequent order of another 8 planes)
 
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IMF aside, be proud of your poverty. There is something of value in it. The poverty is because of lack of FDI, keeping Pakistan on the FATF grey list indefinitely, restricting the growth of CPEC, harsh conditions imposed on Pakistan's economy through IMF/WB, West restricting military sales to Pakistan and quite a few other ways. However, the poverty allows Pakistan to not give in to the diktats of others at the expense of its own long term interests.

The easiest example, for those breaking out of poverty, is to look no further than a specific country in the region. However, there are implied costs for this supposed progress. Too soon to tell what and how it will impact them but Pakistan has taken a position which will result in the country being punished and constantly kept on a tight leash. Hopefully this will build resilience and self-dependence.

For good or bad, in Iran there is a contrarian example that should be kept in mind. Not all is well there, but there are aspects that we can learn from and internalize.
Pakistan is poor because Pakistan does not have a technology-intensive industry, which, in turn, is because Pakistan is stupid. You can sugarcoat it all you like, but that is the reality.
 
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It is quite possible that the variant being created is not a downgraded variant - but one that does not need to connect to ALIS in USA or allow for a local ALIS installation allowing for sovereign control ?

ALIS has been a recurring issue and one that the americans may well be addressing.

Yes indeed!

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/f-35...ending-sensitive-data-back-to-the-u-s.732130/

And now there is a new system called ODIN that can replace ALIS..

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The new ODIN system (which, like the F-35 itself, was designed by Lockheed Martin) comes in two suitcase-sized cases weighing 100 pounds, replacing a big electronics box that weighed around 800 pounds. Its increased computing power cuts processing times by as much as 50%.

Richard Aboulafia, a top aircraft expert at the Teal Group, was willing to give the new setups the benefit of the doubt: “Given advances in software and other computing technologies, there’s no way this can’t be significantly better. But on the other hand, some of the concerns about the previous system related to operational sovereignty, which probably won’t be addressed by this new system.”

https://breakingdefense.com/2021/08/alis-is-dying-long-live-f-35s-odin/

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Bhai. Come on...smart people don't behave as slaves. The difference between Nigeria and the Arabs is that the Arab population is nothing in comparison. Don't think they are not corrupt. They are extremely corrupt.

Regarding Pakistan we sadly are a nation of theives and corruption has become a demigod for us. Our people literally worship money
True and false
Nigeria has a pakistani problem..i.e ethnic ans bradery votes/sport ..they have "khata hey tu lagata be hey" problem too

Difference is that they will grow out of it..we wont
 
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Rumors from Portuguese Armed Forces is the country is India. They will get a downgraded version of F35 that wont have +++tech. This can be the solution to the S400 aquisition from India and Turkey.
So Turkey is a possible customer too?
 
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The poorest of poor Arab countries have a better living standard and general cleanliness than Pakistan.

Pakistan has a population of 223 million people which is a total of most arab countries combined. High population density has its own challenges. As for better living standards have you even been to Pakistan to make such a stupid assumption? Come to Islamabad it is repeatedly ranked one if the best capitals in the world. Next time dont make stupid generalised comments. Dont open your mouth unless your country managed a population of 223 million in a single country within a small land mass and dealt with its challenges.
 
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