Loaded With ‘Live Missiles’, US Deployed F-15 Heavy-Weight Fighters In Response To Chinese J-20 Combat Patrols

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Oh my god! All these years I did not know F-15 could carry weapons.

 

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J20 is suppose to deal with F22 and they send out F15.......

 

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In a show of force, the US Air Force (USAF) on April 16 reportedly dispatched F-15C long-range fighters, armed with live AIM-120C and AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles, from Kadena Air Base (KAB), Okinawa, Japan.

Flights by the fighters carrying live air-to-air missiles are relatively rare, and the release of footage of such flights suggests an effort to signal an adversary at times of high tensions.
Recently, a military aviation blog published photos showing F-15C Eagles belonging to the 67th and 44th Fighter Squadrons, landing at KAB. The aircraft was returning from a 7-hour mission as part of Combat Air Patrols (CAPs) near Taiwan where China had conducted military drills coinciding with the visit of a US Congressional delegation to the island nation.

China sent frigates, bombers, and fighter planes to the East China Sea and the area around Taiwan on April 15 according to the People’s Liberation Army Eastern Theater Command spokesman Shi Yilu as cited by China’s state broadcaster.

This operation is in response to the recent frequent release of wrong signals by the United States on the Taiwan issue,” Shi said, without mentioning the visiting US lawmakers.

Also, shortly before that China announced the start of combat patrols by its most advanced J-20 Stealth fighter jet in the East China Sea and the South China Sea.

The J-20 is China’s first fifth-generation fighter meant to be an air superiority platform and an analog to the American F-22 Raptor – considered the world’s premiere stealth fighter jet.

While, the stealth feature of the aircraft poses a serious threat, it is doubtful if J-20s can put up much of a challenge to F-22s in terms of performance such as thrust and high-speed maneuverability.

“In terms of thrust to weight, maneuverability, and high-altitude performance it is unlikely to match up to the US or European air superiority fighters,” Justin Bronk, an aerial combat expert at the Royal United Services Institute told Business Insider in 2019.

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Engine Pitfalls​

Also, engines have long been a pitfall for Chinese fighters as Beijing has been struggling to domestically produce jet engines that would offer fighters like the J-20 true fifth-generation capabilities.

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In a show of force, the US Air Force (USAF) on April 16 reportedly dispatched F-15C long-range fighters, armed with live AIM-120C and AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles, from Kadena Air Base (KAB), Okinawa, Japan.

Flights by the fighters carrying live air-to-air missiles are relatively rare, and the release of footage of such flights suggests an effort to signal an adversary at times of high tensions.

Recently, a military aviation blog published photos showing F-15C Eagles belonging to the 67th and 44th Fighter Squadrons, landing at KAB. The aircraft was returning from a 7-hour mission as part of Combat Air Patrols (CAPs) near Taiwan where China had conducted military drills coinciding with the visit of a US Congressional delegation to the island nation.

China sent frigates, bombers, and fighter planes to the East China Sea and the area around Taiwan on April 15 according to the People’s Liberation Army Eastern Theater Command spokesman Shi Yilu as cited by China’s state broadcaster.​

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File Image: A USAF F-15C fires an AIM-7 Sparrow in 2005. (Wikimedia Commons)​

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“This operation is in response to the recent frequent release of wrong signals by the United States on the Taiwan issue,” Shi said, without mentioning the visiting US lawmakers.

Also, shortly before that China announced the start of combat patrols by its most advanced J-20 Stealth fighter jet in the East China Sea and the South China Sea.

The J-20 is China’s first fifth-generation fighter meant to be an air superiority platform and an analog to the American F-22 Raptor – considered the world’s premiere stealth fighter jet.

While, the stealth feature of the aircraft poses a serious threat, it is doubtful if J-20s can put up much of a challenge to F-22s in terms of performance such as thrust and high-speed maneuverability.

“In terms of thrust to weight, maneuverability, and high-altitude performance it is unlikely to match up to the US or European air superiority fighters,” Justin Bronk, an aerial combat expert at the Royal United Services Institute told Business Insider in 2019.​

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File Image: J-20 Fighter Aircraft​

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Engine Pitfalls​

Also, engines have long been a pitfall for Chinese fighters as Beijing has been struggling to domestically produce jet engines that would offer fighters like the J-20 true fifth-generation capabilities.

“The engines are a significant limiting factor” in that they require inefficient use of afterburners and limit high-altitude performance, according to Bronk.

That brings us to F-15s which were meant to be replaced by F-22s but the latter’s production halted after less than four years in service and the existing aircraft are also set to be phased out, gradually.​

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File Image: F-22 Raptor​

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Therefore, the USAF’s aging fleet of around 220 F-15C/D Eagles remains heavily relied upon by the service for air-superiority capabilities, both at home and abroad, and while their replacement has begun to arrive in the form of the F-15EX, the original F-15C/Ds have also been continuously upgraded to keep them combat-relevant in the coming years.

The F-15C/D are also known to have a better thrust-to-weight ratio when compared to J-20 and they enjoy an unparalleled reputation as dogfighters who could leverage their superior thrust and excellent maneuverability to gain an advantageous position vis-à-vis the J-20 in a short-range combat engagement.​

Beyond Visual Range Combat​

However, considering the J-20’s low radar cross-section, the F-15 Eagle may have trouble detecting it at longer ranges, whereas, the J-20 with its advanced active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar should be able to easily detect non-stealthy F-15s.

So, F-15s would appear to be at a disadvantage in beyond visual range (BVR) combat, however, the continuing effort at maintaining their combat relevance has brought some upgrades to bridge this gap.

One of the F-15s pictured during the return from April 16 combat patrol reportedly carried a Lockheed Martin’s AN/AAQ-33 SNIPER ATP (Advanced Targeting Pod) for long-range visual identification purposes.

The Sniper ATP has traditionally been used for an air-to-ground precision strike and reconnaissance functions but the F-15C/D community adapted it for long-range visual identification purposes which involve identifying aircraft day or night dozens of miles away by slaving the optics to the radar.

The pilot can also manually steer the Sniper ATP’s camera or can cue it to their Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS).

In addition to this, upgrades also include the addition of powerful AN/APG-63(V)3 AESA radars to detect targets at long range.

Above all, the F-15s from KAB in Japan are also known to have the Lockheed Martin ‘Legion’ Pod although none of the photographed Eagles had the Legion Pod equipped perhaps because it is still new to the 67th and 44th Fighter Squadrons who may be in the early stages of training to use it

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In a show of force, the US Air Force (USAF) on April 16 reportedly dispatched F-15C long-range fighters, armed with live AIM-120C and AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles, from Kadena Air Base (KAB), Okinawa, Japan.

Flights by the fighters carrying live air-to-air missiles are relatively rare, and the release of footage of such flights suggests an effort to signal an adversary at times of high tensions.

Recently, a military aviation blog published photos showing F-15C Eagles belonging to the 67th and 44th Fighter Squadrons, landing at KAB. The aircraft was returning from a 7-hour mission as part of Combat Air Patrols (CAPs) near Taiwan where China had conducted military drills coinciding with the visit of a US Congressional delegation to the island nation.

China sent frigates, bombers, and fighter planes to the East China Sea and the area around Taiwan on April 15 according to the People’s Liberation Army Eastern Theater Command spokesman Shi Yilu as cited by China’s state broadcaster.​

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File Image: A USAF F-15C fires an AIM-7 Sparrow in 2005. (Wikimedia Commons)​

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“This operation is in response to the recent frequent release of wrong signals by the United States on the Taiwan issue,” Shi said, without mentioning the visiting US lawmakers.

Also, shortly before that China announced the start of combat patrols by its most advanced J-20 Stealth fighter jet in the East China Sea and the South China Sea.

The J-20 is China’s first fifth-generation fighter meant to be an air superiority platform and an analog to the American F-22 Raptor – considered the world’s premiere stealth fighter jet.

While, the stealth feature of the aircraft poses a serious threat, it is doubtful if J-20s can put up much of a challenge to F-22s in terms of performance such as thrust and high-speed maneuverability.

“In terms of thrust to weight, maneuverability, and high-altitude performance it is unlikely to match up to the US or European air superiority fighters,” Justin Bronk, an aerial combat expert at the Royal United Services Institute told Business Insider in 2019.​

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File Image: J-20 Fighter Aircraft​

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Engine Pitfalls​

Also, engines have long been a pitfall for Chinese fighters as Beijing has been struggling to domestically produce jet engines that would offer fighters like the J-20 true fifth-generation capabilities.

“The engines are a significant limiting factor” in that they require inefficient use of afterburners and limit high-altitude performance, according to Bronk.

That brings us to F-15s which were meant to be replaced by F-22s but the latter’s production halted after less than four years in service and the existing aircraft are also set to be phased out, gradually.​

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File Image: F-22 Raptor​

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Therefore, the USAF’s aging fleet of around 220 F-15C/D Eagles remains heavily relied upon by the service for air-superiority capabilities, both at home and abroad, and while their replacement has begun to arrive in the form of the F-15EX, the original F-15C/Ds have also been continuously upgraded to keep them combat-relevant in the coming years.

The F-15C/D are also known to have a better thrust-to-weight ratio when compared to J-20 and they enjoy an unparalleled reputation as dogfighters who could leverage their superior thrust and excellent maneuverability to gain an advantageous position vis-à-vis the J-20 in a short-range combat engagement.​

Beyond Visual Range Combat​

However, considering the J-20’s low radar cross-section, the F-15 Eagle may have trouble detecting it at longer ranges, whereas, the J-20 with its advanced active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar should be able to easily detect non-stealthy F-15s.

So, F-15s would appear to be at a disadvantage in beyond visual range (BVR) combat, however, the continuing effort at maintaining their combat relevance has brought some upgrades to bridge this gap.

One of the F-15s pictured during the return from April 16 combat patrol reportedly carried a Lockheed Martin’s AN/AAQ-33 SNIPER ATP (Advanced Targeting Pod) for long-range visual identification purposes.

The Sniper ATP has traditionally been used for an air-to-ground precision strike and reconnaissance functions but the F-15C/D community adapted it for long-range visual identification purposes which involve identifying aircraft day or night dozens of miles away by slaving the optics to the radar.

The pilot can also manually steer the Sniper ATP’s camera or can cue it to their Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS).

In addition to this, upgrades also include the addition of powerful AN/APG-63(V)3 AESA radars to detect targets at long range.

Above all, the F-15s from KAB in Japan are also known to have the Lockheed Martin ‘Legion’ Pod although none of the photographed Eagles had the Legion Pod equipped perhaps because it is still new to the 67th and 44th Fighter Squadrons who may be in the early stages of training to use it.​

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Close up of a Legion Pod installed on an F-15 (Lockheed Martin)​

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The Legion pod has an infrared search and track sensor (IRST) that offers the pilot a new way to detect and track multiple aircraft beyond visual range including ones that employ stealth technology such as the J-20.

The radar-evading design features on stealth aircraft do not affect the IRST, as it depends on the aircraft’s infrared signature alone.

The pod can also provide targeting information so the pilot can engage an enemy passively, without emitting any electromagnetic energy thereby eliminating the chance of alerting potential opponents that they’ve been detected, unlike radar which can give away the attacking aircraft’s presence and even its location.​

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Kadena F-15C Eagle spotted with a Legion Pod. (Twitter: @SuneKuma01)​

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The targeting data can also be combined with information from other sensors, and especially other aircraft carrying IRSTs, for a more accurate ‘fix.’

Furthermore, the IRST provides an alternative to the radar in electronic warfare-heavy (jamming) combat environments in which the Eagle’s AN/APG-63 radar could be degraded by an electronic attack.

Loaded With 'Live Missiles', US Deployed F-15 Heavy-Weight Fighters In Response To Chinese J-20 Combat Patrols

In a show of force, the US Air Force (USAF) on April 16 reportedly dispatched F-15C long-range fighters, armed with live AIM-120C and AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles, from Kadena Air Base (KAB), Okinawa, Japan. With US ‘Super Choppers’ On Radar, China Says Its ‘Future Helicopters’ Will Be Equipped...

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What day dreaming the Americans are capable of!



Should pushing turn to real shoving , there will be no air bases in Japan or Guan or Okinawa for anything to take off from .
Perhaps from Wake Island and Pearl harbout.

But nothing west of the 2nd Island Chain withing 10 minutes of war starting


Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?




In the first 10++ minutes, all the bases in Japan , Okinawa and Guam will be cratered and hit by the DongFangs with conventional warheads ensuring their planes cannot take off.

Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?

Shugart and Gonzalez also point out that the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) has carried out drills simulating preemptive attacks against America’s regional military assets. In one such instance, the PLA Rocket Forces “appears to have been practicing on several ship targets of a similar size to U.S. Arleigh Burke –class destroyers moored in a mock port that is a near-mirror image of the actual inner harbor at the U.S. naval base in Yokosuka.” This is illuminating, the authors note, because the only way the Chinese military could catch three U.S. ships in port is if they conducted a complete surprise attack.
After reviewing Chinese capabilities and doctrines, the authors try to simulate such an attack to judge its effectiveness. Interestingly, while they believe China would strike U.S. bases in Japan and even some Japanese forces, they assume Beijing would avoid attacks on Korea “in order to prevent a distracting second front on the Korean Peninsula while pursuing its primary military goals elsewhere.” In their simulation, they also assume that Beijing would not initially target America’s base at Guam since it is U.S. territory and China would want to prevent an escalation that could result in America bombing mainland China.
Shugart and Gonzales run two different models of a simulated preemptive attack, keeping in mind what they know about U.S. and allied missile defense systems in the region. In both models, “enough ballistic missiles seemed likely to leak through to cause highly significant damage to U.S. bases and forces in the region.” Some of the results of the attacks include:
• “Almost every major fixed headquarters and logistical facility struck, with key headquarters struck within the first few minutes of the conflict.”
• “Almost every U.S. ship in port in Japan struck pierside by ballistic missiles.”
• “In most cases, cratering by ballistic missiles of every runway and runway-length taxiway at all major U.S. air bases in Japan.”
• “As a result of runway cratering, headquarters destruction, and air defense degradation, more than 200 trapped U.S. aircraft destroyed on the ground in the first hours of the conflict.”
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Then Chinese cruise missiles will fly in their thousands to take out what not taken out military assets in that first 10++ minutes.

Chinese AShMs will burn and incinerate Japanese and USA Naval assets.


During that time, Japanese command centers will blown up killing all those inside.


See the photos of test sites in Western China of dummy airfields and plane shelters of air and naval bases in Japan being hit so accurately by DFs.

First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

By your own Western military experts. Even if they underestimated the numbers of DFs and Cruise Missiles of China in their reports.

The same way they thought China has only 260 nukes.

The same way Dugout Doug thought no Chinese at all in Korea until Chinese appeared in the hundreds of thousands right within USA and UN troops!

First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

And then all US air bases and naval bases in Japan and Guam and Diego Garcia and Singapore be rendered inoperational within 10 minutes.

And all assets in the air bases and naval bases hit and destroyed within the next 30 minutes.

All the USA JSTARS and tankers be in flames within an hour.

All carriers within the 3rd Island Chain be burning from end to end.

 

[Imran Khan]

Shouldn't this be posted by some 'Americans' such as the F-22 guy? instead of an indian? Lol...

US have many slaves left and right

 

[LakeHawk180]

Or rather the opposite is true, that US is merely posturing & does not really intends to engage a superior platform.

China is not willing to start a war & therefore they would not engage non-stealth fighters just yet. China would let US posture & not get provoked needlessly. So, either US wants China to react unwisely or knows that Chinese would do nothing.

Imagine, F-15 armed with AIM-120C against J-20. This is ridiculous.

Perhaps. Time will tell, obviously.

 

[gambit]

J20 is suppose to deal with F22 and they send out F15.......

Then the F-22s and F-35s will take out the J-20s...

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Then the F-22s and F-35s will take out the J-20s...

F-22 is obsolete hence its production was stopped.

F-35 is an expensive lemon.

 

[waz]

J-20 is enhancement of which Russian jet?

He's just saying that to make himself feel good. He's just angry at Chinese progress when his own defence officials were asking the British for engine help (who refused) and now have some deal with the French.
No need to pay attention to him and the 50 samosa army.
The J-20 is greatly respected by Western experts, that being said the F-35 and F-22 are the best out there along with the J-20.

 

[leviathan]

Shouldn't this be posted by some 'Americans' such as the F-22 guy? instead of an indian? Lol...

 

[gambit]

F-22 is obsolete hence its production was stopped.

F-35 is an expensive lemon.

I will take this seriously IF your India produce something better. Not equivalent but actually better. The F-22 maybe 'obsolete' by our standards, but certainly not India's, not Russia's, and not China's, so until you guys can produce something that is undeniably better under current metrics, do live with our superiority by these 'old' jets.

 

[Dalit]

A airwar between the current superpower and pretender would be very interesting.
I predict the same results as Russian jets in Ukraine for the Chinese airforce. Since most Chinese jets are enhancements of the Russians.
Ignoring the fanboys here , it seems the Chinese are well aware of this result and satisfy themselves with "daring " flyovers over disputed areas.

The Indian is spewing nonsese as usual.

 

[Surya 1]

F-22 is obsolete hence its production was stopped.

F-35 is an expensive lemon.

Funniest post I ever watched.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

I will take this seriously IF your India produce something better. Not equivalent but actually better. The F-22 maybe 'obsolete' by our standards, but certainly not India's, not Russia's, and not China's, so until you guys can produce something that is undeniably better under current metrics, do live with our superiority by these 'old' jets.

He is a resident supertroll, posts only for riling user

has no agenda at all

 

[SuperStar20]

Probably forgot to log into the right account.

coming from experience.

 

[etylo]

A airwar between the current superpower and pretender would be very interesting.
I predict the same results as Russian jets in Ukraine for the Chinese airforce. Since most Chinese jets are enhancements of the Russians.
Ignoring the fanboys here , it seems the Chinese are well aware of this result and satisfy themselves with "daring " flyovers over disputed areas.

You delusional and ignorant Indian need to take psychotic drugs, obviously don't know what the shit you are talking about. China never pretend to be a superpower unlike you Indians pretend to be supa pawa India since 2012 ! Enhancement of Russian jets like the most advanced Chinese jets J20 and J10 ? LMAO. Even J16 can't be said it's an enhancement of Russian jet, it's completely a new design and production except the jet frame is similar.