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Lira reels as Turkey tests investors once more

As the world moves to increase rates, central bank slashes them

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Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey’s president, who did so much to energise the economy after he took office two decades ago, risks falling victim to the inflation he has failed to cure

October 22, 2021 1:15 pm by Jonathan Wheatley in London

Another week, another shock to the Turkish lira. The currency plunged to a fresh historical low after Turkey’s central bank slashed its policy interest rate on Thursday by 2 percentage points.

In making the cut, the central bank showed it is the world’s only major monetary policymaker that is neither raising rates nor thinking about doing so, but reducing them instead.

We have been here multiple times before: faced with a choice between the orthodox and the unorthodox, Turkish authorities double down on the latter.

Thursday’s cut was at least twice the size of what was expected on financial markets. But this week was not merely more of the same. Recent events suggest change may be on the way. The question for investors is how long it will take.

One sign of movement came in a report from Tusiad, Turkey’s largest and most powerful business association, calling for “central bank independence and cautious monetary and fiscal policy” as the basis of lasting prosperity. It followed a critique days earlier by Omer Koc, chair of one of Turkey’s most prominent business groups, of the country’s “exhausting” inflation.

Both can be seen as veiled but pointed attacks on President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his policy beliefs, in which high interest rates cause inflation rather than curing it, and the route to prosperity is through credit-fuelled consumption.

Line chart of Turkish lira per $ showing Turkey's rate cut this week sent the lira to historic lows


Such comments, in fact, are not especially new. Business leaders have made similar remarks in the past without causing a stir. But now, analysts say, the momentum is moving against the government and the opposition is setting the news agenda.

“It feels like the opposition are becoming confident they can actually win, and that the [ruling] AKP is increasingly desperate, that they see Erdogan as fallible,” said Timothy Ash of BlueBay Asset Management.

One illustration of such opposition agenda-setting came on Thursday. Hours before the rate cut, Kemal Kilicdaroglu, leader of the biggest opposition party, the CHP, urged the central bank not to “take orders” on monetary policy — a reference to the widely held assumption that it is Erdogan, not the central bank governor, who sets interest rates.

It was the latest such intervention of several. Last Friday, in a rare visit to the central bank, Kilicdaroglu reportedly warned the governor he had a legal duty to maintain the central bank’s independence. He then made a similar, public warning to civil servants that they would be held liable for carrying out “unlawful orders” after a change of government.

Such threats are backed up by opinion polls, showing opposition parties moving into a lead over Erdogan’s AKP and its allies. The once hugely popular president, who did so much to energise Turkey’s economy after he took office two decades ago, risks falling victim to the inflation he has drastically failed to cure. Its damage is being keenly felt by voters, analysts say.

But investors should not assume Erdogan will leave the scene any time soon. No election is due until 2023. Some analysts argue that the president will use the central bank’s already inadequate foreign exchange reserves to engineer another credit-fuelled bounce to the economy and call for a vote in the first quarter of next year, before things get irredeemably worse.

But most expect Erdogan to tough it out, in the hope that Covid-19 will recede and next year’s tourist season will rescue both the economy and his electoral prospects.

A little over a month ago, the Financial Times reported that investors were tiptoeing back into Turkey after fleeing instability earlier in the year. That has turned out to be a bad bet. In just a few weeks, global conditions have changed dramatically. The US Federal Reserve, which was previously content to “look through” rising inflation, is preparing to raise interest rates. Global growth is slowing, dragged down by the crisis in China’s property sector. Energy prices have soared — particularly bad news for Turkey, which imports much of its energy.

It is a dangerous mix, says Ray Jian, portfolio manager at Amundi, Europe’s largest fund manager. “There’s a high oil price, a dovish central bank when everybody else is quite hawkish, and tightening global financial conditions when Turkey is one of the emerging markets that most relies on external finance.”

Those tempted back to Turkey last month were drawn in by a period of relative currency stability and the prospect of high returns on local currency government bonds. But with this week’s plunge in the lira, that equation has turned against them. Any investors thinking of holding on for a change of government and a return to orthodox policymaking will need long horizons and strong nerves.

 
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Turkey will soon realize that their entire economy rests on then whims of western (american) political leaders... they are absolutely toying with the turkish economy and sending subtle warnings....

they can literally starve turkey into a famine with about 10%~ of the sanctions imposed on Iran.

its kinda of sad and pathetic really, because alot of pink-panturks actually thought it was the second coming of the ottomans circa~ 16th century with Erdogans hot air....
 
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Turkey will soon realize that their entire economy rests on then whims of western (american) political leaders... they are absolutely toying with the turkish economy and sending subtle warnings....

they can literally starve turkey into a famine with about 10%~ of the sanctions imposed on Iran.

its kinda of sad and pathetic really, because alot of pink-panturks actually thought it was the second coming of the ottomans circa~ 16th century with Erdogans hot air....
why? cant turkey trade with eu china and rest of the world?
 
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I'm here before Mr MMME joined and spam his "US attacked our economy since 2013, we spent a trillion dollars on refugee, otherwise we would have become a two trillion economy." BS.
 
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I'm here before Mr MMME joined and spam his "US attacked our economy since 2013, we spent a trillion dollars on refugee, otherwise we would have become a two trillion economy." BS.
trilion dollar on refugees yea right
 
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I'm here before Mr MMME joined and spam his "US attacked our economy since 2013, we spent a trillion dollars on refugee, otherwise we would have become a two trillion economy." BS.


they can literally starve turkey into a famine with about 10%~ of the sanctions imposed on Iran.

what about so-called the sanctions imposed on Iran ?


Turkey lost $3 trillion between 1960 and 2021 because of

-- America backed military coups in 1960,1971,1980,1996 , 2016 failed coup attempt
-- to fight against USA-İsrael-Europe backed PKK terrorism since 1985
-- attack on Turkish economy by The US since 2013


Turkey produce everything
also Turkey is one of the 7 countries that are self-sufficient in agriculture


ERDOGAN spent around $100 billion for humanitarian aid to muslim countries in the last 10 years
even $50 billion for around 5 million refugees in Turkey

If ERDOGAN distributed $100 billion money to poor families, there would be no poor family in Turkey now



btw
1 USD = 10 Turkish Lira
1 USD is 72,89 Russian ruble
1 USD is 42275,00 Iranian Rial


since 2013 all enemies says that Turkish economy will collapse
but still Turkish economy is alive and Turkiye has bigger GDP PPP than İsrael+Egypt+İran combined


btw ERDOGAN reduced interest rate from 24% to 4,9 between 2003 and 2013
that means ERDOGAN saved out $330 billion from blood sucker international interest lobby

ERDOGAN reduce interest rate and lapdogs like TUSIAD is barking

because of If I deposit 1 million euros in a Turkish Bank, I will earn 12.289 euro per month ( 147.468 euro in a year ) from interest.
I can not do it in USA , in Europe including Germany
 
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Inflation in the USA is now very high, and it is likely to raise interest rates in advance, so not just the Turkish Lira, all risky currencies will depreciate significantly. The Greeks use the euro without the risk of significant depreciation, but that is because the EU has the support of Germany, not because of the support of Greece. From 2021 to 2022, all high-risk economies in the world will experience three stages: imported inflation, interest rate hike, stock market & Exchange Rate collapse. This is inevitable.
 
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who scared of turkey?

İsrael


Mossad thinks Turkey is a bigger threat than Iran



“Iranian power is fragile,” he reportedly told spymasters from Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, “but the real threat is from Turkey.”

İsrael use USA to fight Turkiye
İsrael use Arab Dictators , FETO , PKK/YPG Terror organizations as pawns to fight Turkiye


everything has begun in 2009 DAVOS when ERDOGAN criticized İsrael for killing Palestinians
İsrael is one of the biggest enemy to Turkiye and Turkish People
 
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İsrael


Mossad thinks Turkey is a bigger threat than Iran



“Iranian power is fragile,” he reportedly told spymasters from Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, “but the real threat is from Turkey.”

İsrael use USA to fight Turkiye
İsrael use Arab Dictators , FETO , PKK/YPG Terror organizations as pawns to fight Turkiye


everything has begun in 2009 DAVOS when ERDOGAN criticized İsrael for killing Palestinians
İsrael is one of the biggest enemy to Turkiye and Turkish People

Turkey problem is the sultan that drive the country into a dictatorship no Israel. Turkey was once a democratic country that EU thought to bring in. Erdogan close news Media and attack journalists. You can't express your thoughts about the sultan he is in power more then 20 years and in this rate he will be in power until the age of 90.
 
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Hypothetically speaking is there an alternative popular leader who can win against Erdogan? Before some turk starts jumping up and down i want to make it clear that i am asking this to research political dynamics in Turkey at present.
 
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