Liaoning: New carrier needs time to be ready

[Steakhouse]

Typical Indian loser mindset. This is the type of mentality that make India a sick country and backward. Always fear of failure and question your ability to overcome obstacle. May I remind that that our determination had NEVER FAIL us.

Fail or not China already decide to build the aircraft battle group, China will learn as their operation of the carrier moving along.

 

[xunzi]

Fail or not China already decide to build the aircraft battle group, China will learn as their operation of the carrier moving along.

Had we told our friends in 1980 that in 30 years, we will have 5th generation fighter and on the verge of eclipsing the US's economy, they would laugh at us. In fact, we told the world that we would modernize as massive force in the late 1990s and the world was laughing at us. Like I said, talking is something we don't do.

 

[Steakhouse]

Yes, I can predict that the world will not end tomorrow. I'm willing to bet USD5000 on it. Are you willing to bet against me?

The universe is here to stay, how can it end tomorrow? Even big asteroid couldn't end this world billions yrs ago? How can man made will end this world tomorrow?

 

[William Hung]

The universe is here to stay, how can it end tomorrow? Even big asteroid couldn't end this world billions yrs ago? How can man made will end this world tomorrow?

So are you predicting that the world will not end tomorrow?

 

[Steakhouse]

So are you predicting that the world will not end tomorrow?

How can you predict something that not possibly happen in the pass or into the future?

 

[William Hung]

How can you predict something that not possibly happen in the pass or into the future?

1. I'm predicting that the world will continue to exist tomorrow. The world existing tomorrow is a possibility. I am predicting a possibility, not an impossibility.

2. It is also possible that the world could end tomorrow. A divine being could actually exist all this time and decide to just finish the world tomorrow.

3. Saying the world will continue to exist tomorrow is the same as predicting it so. Tomorrow is the future, and to say something about the future is only a prediction, no matter how good or bad the prediction is.

 

[BoQ77]

The report told us China produced not enough J15.
And PLAN still beginers on AC operation. That's why they ever propose to learn it from 7th Fleet AC

 

[Desertfalcon]

Kiev class was the aircraft carrying cruiser, while the Kuznetsov are considered full carriers, just not full sized carrier, not that different from the medium sized carriers operated by other countries. Of course with the limited amount of air wing on board, its role will be primarily restricted to air escort, and that severely limits the potential of a carrier group. I think China has long planned to operate full size carrier with Liaoning being merely a stepping stone.

Actually, the Russians designated the Kuznetsov class as a “heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser ”, but I agree with the rest of what you say here.

Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[kolinsky]

I'd like to see a 200k ton carrier. If we are not sophicated as USA, just build a bigger one with bigger deck, bigger hanger, bigger space for everything and more armor. As a carrier 20 mph is enough, just forget the power per ton.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

No, you will NOT see the Chinese Navy, in whatever name in the future, as a true blue water navy. Your children may or may not see that.

China can build five carriers right now but if the PLAN sail with those five ships, there will be five capital disasters at sea. You must allow one crew to gain peacetime operational experience, which will require years beyond the average enlistment period, then disseminate what they know to the next crew, allow them to learn and refine flaws, and disseminate to the next crew, and so on.

Not everyone is half as old as you.

 

[BoQ77]

I'd like to see a 200k ton carrier. If we are not sophicated as USA, just build a bigger one with bigger deck, bigger hanger, bigger space for everything and more armor. As a carrier 20 mph is enough, just forget the power per ton.

be a bigger target? while engine is challenge to China?

 

[kolinsky]

be a bigger target? while engine is challenge to China?

If a carrier is so easy be attacked, why US build so many? Your troop have never seen a carrier in the VN war. If we can, build a 1M ton carrier.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

The United States Navy is the only nation in the world to have real carrier warfare experience, as well.

Actually the British moved their carriers to the Pacific after Germany surrendered and for about 2 months had to endure craziness. At least 5 of their carriers were hit by Zeros.

The decks if the British carriers were more heavily armored...but unfortunately that translated into their frames being bent.

 

[NiceGuy]

Had we told our friends in 1980 that in 30 years, we will have 5th generation fighter and on the verge of eclipsing the US's economy, they would laugh at us. In fact, we told the world that we would modernize as massive force in the late 1990s and the world was laughing at us. Like I said, talking is something we don't do.

The world still laugh at your humiliated lost when China huge forces were kick out the conflict zone in Paracel just by small VN forces after 2 months.

Your army may look good now, but still fight suck and coward as usual

 

[GR!FF!N]

Typical Indian loser mindset. This is the type of mentality that make India a sick country and backward. Always fear of failure and question your ability to overcome obstacle. May I remind that that our determination had NEVER FAIL us.

Ranting doesn't going to help your country to run Carriers properly.only accepting the facts can.and FYI,we're(a Sick and Backward Country compared to China) operating carriers for over 50 years now(operated 3 Carriers already).In Fact,India is possibly only country who has used both Ski Jump as well as Catapult(don't know if USN used Ski Jump).but yet,when it comes to carrier Warfare,nobody challenges the superiority of USN.

and about Chinese Determination,we're yet to see a proof of it.lets back to the topic than useless ranting.First,put a real carrier with capable aircraft in Sea,then we'll talk.