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The Chinese wanted them to do so, in the 1990s, but due to US pressure the deal imploded.
such a deal was concluded a while ago. there were a few papers floating around from good sources reporting it too.
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Newsflash, amigo; they are considered avionics as well. :)
so i was right they are sensors. but if you want to include the receiver display then thats considered as an avionic.
lets say were both right and call it a day.


In other words, skepticism is merely another kind of hope.
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such a deal was concluded a while ago. there were a few papers floating around from good sources reporting it too.
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No, it never materialized. That is the reason why the Chinese went ahead with their KJ-2000 project.

so i was right they are sensors. but if you want to include the receiver display then thats considered as an avionic.
lets say were both right and call it a day.

I never disagreed on the sensors part. "Avionics" is an umbrella term for any electronic device assisting an aircraft, and hence radars fall under that category. Our debate is more about semantics than anything. Call it a day we will.
 
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China L-15/JL-10 advanced jet trainer
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China developing domestic 'MinJiang/岷江' jet engine for L-15 trainer
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they "israel" sold aesa radars to china.
i never had you as the troll type. radars are sensors, take it as one of the things you learnt today.

also believing something to be something is not reality, its hope.
Israel didn't sell AESA radar to China, coz U.S the deal banned in 1990s ... China didn't get anything from Israel. But as u see, now China Airforce has KJ-2000, KJ-200, KJ-500, ZDK-03(Pakistan) AWACS and small AESA for fighter(J-10B etc), the Navy has type346/type346A AESA radar on 052C/D, Army has PAVE PAWS and other air-defence AESA.

theres no chance. china does quiet business with countries for defence procurements. did you know that Germany sold 13 fuel cell aip's to china? in regards to engines you may be closer than you think to independence. the ws-10/15/20 will share a similar core to that of the cfm56 which that itself is based on the f101.

ge-f101 engine which has core similar to that of the cfm56, which is similar to that of the ws series engines.
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the cfm56-2 which its core will be existent on the ws series engines
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chinese ws-10 which its core is similar to that of the cfm56 and the f101
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Well ... 1990s~2000s China do did quiet business with some Europe nations, especially France (aviation/naval electronic system techs, helicopter techs) & Germany (MTU tank engine techs). Now Britain as the best friend in West for China (ur government said to Xi) ... we will also do quiet business with Britain especially our interest in Rolls-Royce Engines, all sensitive trade will be under the table to avoid American as we did in the past years. :lol:
 
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Israel didn't sell AESA radar to China, coz U.S the deal banned in 1990s ... China didn't get anything from Israel. But as u see, now China Airforce has KJ-2000, KJ-200, KJ-500, ZDK-03(Pakistan) AWACS and small AESA for fighter(J-10B etc), the Navy has type346/type346A AESA radar on 052C/D, Army has PAVE PAWS and other air-defence AESA.
that was because china wanted the a-50i which you werent allowed to buy
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then you developed the kj-2000
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im talking about the elm-2052 aesa radar.

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Well ... 1990s~2000s China do did quiet business with some Europe nations, especially France (aviation/naval electronic system techs, helicopter techs) & Germany (MTU tank engine techs). Now Britain as the best friend in West for China (ur government said to Xi) ...
i know they did, its all about the money, something your not short of.;)
we will also do quiet business with Britain especially our interest in Rolls-Royce Engines, all sensitive trade will be under the table to avoid American as we did in the past years. :lol:
does that mean i will be seeing a Chinese ej-200!? :partay:
btw our stage 2 engines are more powerful than the ws-13 and may have thrust vectoring. 120kn wet :lol:


well nows a good time to do quiet business as we have a tory government who are more interested in money than anything else.:lol:
we will probably sell the trent series too, blueprints are "optional" :D[/QUOTE]
 
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does that mean i will be seeing a Chinese ej-200!? :partay:
btw our stage 2 engines are more powerful than the ws-13 and may have thrust vectoring. 120kn wet :lol:


well nows a good time to do quiet business as we have a tory government who are more interested in money than anything else.:lol:
we will probably sell the trent series too, blueprints are "optional" :D
If we can put EJ-200 engine on J-31/FC-31 stealth fighter or build a two engines J-10 with EJ-200 ... that will be awesome :eek:, LOL ! :D Anyways the Rolls-Royce EJ-200 is a powerful engine, if China get that as usual as AL-31F engines from Russia it will be NICE for us.
 
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If we can put EJ-200 engine on J-31/FC-31 stealth fighter or build a two engines J-10 with EJ-200 ... that will be awesome :eek:, LOL ! :D Anyways the Rolls-Royce EJ-200 is a powerful engine, if China get that as usual as AL-31F from Russia it will be NICE for us.
i read that the saudi's were interested in the jft but with ej-200. and pakistan were in contact with rolls royce about this, and it was a possibility. i think the ej-200 would be a beautiful match for the j-31, to bad the turkish have beaten you to it for their own 5t gen jet. actually pakistan can get the tai tfx. if it wants to. when is the j-31 entering mass production/service?

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tai tfx one of the 3 proposed designs [twin engine spec proposal]
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i read that the saudi's were interested in the jft but with ej-200. and pakistan were in contact with rolls royce about this, and it was a possibility. i think the ej-200 would be a beautiful match for the j-31, to bad the turkish have beaten you to it for their own 5t gen jet. actually pakistan can get the tai tfx. if it wants to. when is the j-31 entering mass production/service?

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tai tfx one of the 3 proposed designs [twin engine spec proposal]
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In 2016~2017 we can see J-31/FC-31 v2.0 with EOTS maiden flight ... it will be a formal version before mass production, but Im afraid the time of J-31/FC-31 mass production must be later than J-20A (J-20 mass production version) ... coz PLAAF eager for the air-superiority stealth fighter more than a multi-role stealth fighter, currently PLAN has more interest on J-31 project maybe Navy next-gen fighter. One year later, waiting for latest J-31/FC-31 with EOTS take off ... :coffee:

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In 2016~2017 we can see J-31/FC-31 v2.0 with EOTS maiden flight ... it will be a formal version before mass production, but Im afraid the time of J-31/FC-31 mass production must be later than J-20A (J-20 mass production version) ... coz PLAAF eager for the air-superiority stealth fighter more than a multi-role stealth fighter, currently PLAN has more interest on J-31 project maybe the Navy next-gen fighter. One year later, waiting for latest J-31/FC-31 with EOTS take off ... :coffee:

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theres word on the forum going around that the j-31 is going to pakistan and being flown by one of their own guys

gotta admit the j-31 is a good looking bird.
does it only have one internal weapons bay? i would have imagined they would have one on either side of the engine intakes
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theres word on the forum going around that the j-31 is going to pakistan and being flown by own of their guys

gotta admit the j-31 is a good looking bird.
does it only have one internal weapons bay? i would have imagined they would have one on either side of the engine intakes
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No side weapon-bay ... it's just a China version F-35 multi-role steath fighter.

J-31/FC-31 v2.0 will get more powerful when install advanced optoelectronic devices, now the only problem is RD-93 (Mig-29 used) not good enough for J-31 we need new engines :disagree: ... i like EJ-200 jet engine from Britain ! :enjoy:

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No side weapon-bay ... it's just a China version F-35 multi-role steath fighter.

J-31/FC-31 v.20 will get more powerful when install advanced optoelectronic devices, now the only problem is RD-93 (Mig-29 used) not good enough for J-31 we need new engines :disagree: ... i like EJ-200 jet engine from Britain ! :enjoy:
i was just in china about i week ago, you should have asked me and i would have got you one. but i would imagine customs wont be happy with it.
how the ws-13?
any pics of that on the jft?
 
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i was just in china about i week ago, you should have asked me and i would have got you one. but i would imagine customs wont be happy with it.
how the ws-13?
any pics of that on the jft?
Welcome to China, which city u visited?

It seems WS-13 not mature yet, those JF-17& L-15 still using Russia/Ukraine jet engines ... rumor said J-31 equip WS-13 for test flight but now not for any mass production version aircraft yet ... not like WS-10A engines already used on many PLAAF J-11B and J-10B fighters.
 
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Welcome to China, which city u visited?

It seems WS-13 not mature yet, those JF-17& L-15 still using Russia/Ukraine jet engines ... rumor said J-31 equip WS-13 for test flight but now not for any mass production version aircraft yet ... not like WS-10A engines already used on many PLAAF J-11B and J-10B fighters.
i went to Beijing, Shanghai and chengdu i was there for 2 weeks.

i thought the ws-13 was being tested on a jf-17 in chengdu. well thats what was said in the paris air show.

i know about the j11 and the ws-10
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