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Legal action if anyone tries to visit Israel from Bangladesh: foreign minister

So they decided to fold over migrant workers? Sometimes the trade off to being a gad


Arab government(s) (note I said government) are sellouts and unfortunately we've had to join that posse. It demonstrates how easy it is to make BD fold fearing that a few hundred thousand migrant workers being sent back to BD. In the name of development, we've sold our souls. What a trade off.

These Sheikhs must be laughing their *** off right now.

The path of Bangladeshi policy making seems to change time and time again, worse than a woman on their reds.



Not in the name of development... Should the Arab countries send all our expatriate workers back, Bangladeshi economy will collapse and Bangladesh as a state will be in a state of disarray.



GoB is making the best play with the cards it has been dealt. Reality is not simple as Palestine! Palestine!


Food in Belly is more important than some land faraway... We've got to be objective.


Bangladesh First. Bangladesh Second. Bangladesh Last.




I lived on and off in Kuwait (from an expatriate family)... We contribute more to Bangladesh's economic machinery and it's fight against poverty than people would, at first glance, believe.
 
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BNP couldn't pick up a cat slam it if their life depended on it. Maybe they will start protest after Eid.

I don't think their protest will carry any weight really. BNP as a party is a non-entity by now. Sad but true.
 
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Not in the name of development... Should the Arab countries send all our expatriate workers back, Bangladeshi economy will collapse and Bangladesh as a state will be in a state of disarray.



GoB is making the best play with the cards it has been dealt. Reality is not simple as Palestine! Palestine!


Food in Belly is more important than some land faraway... We've got to be objective.


Bangladesh First. Bangladesh Second. Bangladesh Last.




I lived on and off in Kuwait (from an expatriate family)... We contribute more to Bangladesh's economic machinery and it's fight against poverty than people would, at first glance, believe.





I really find it hard to believe that they(Gulfies) would be so petty as to do this.

Anyway, why would they just pick on BD and not other Muslim countries like Pakistan who also have millions of workers in the Gulf?

Maybe there was some Arab pressure but the thought they would expel millions of BD workers in the Gulf is too far-fetched. They would also suffer negatively from this as it makes their position weaker since they would have a lesser pool of workers to pick from.

It basically looks like these bunch of AL turds just did this in order to make their lives a bit easier one way or another.
 
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I really find it hard to believe that they(Gulfies) would be so petty as to do this.

Anyway, why would they just pick on BD and not other Muslim countries like Pakistan who also have millions of workers in the Gulf?

Maybe there was some Arab pressure but the thought they would expel millions of BD workers in the Gulf is too far-fetched. They would also suffer negatively from this as it makes their position weaker since they would have a lesser pool of workers to pick from.

It basically looks like these bunch of AL turds just did this in order to make their lives a bit easier one way or another.



I can tell you exactly what it is GoB is doing... But then some begging bowl boys will start jumping around. .



It's increasingly becoming quite clear that BD's foreign policy is independent, which even to me comes as a suprise.



Let's just say this is only the beginning.



What comes next in a few years, will irk many of our countrymen but it's what's best for our country.


Again. Bangladesh over everything. Everything. Period.
 
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I really find it hard to believe that they(Gulfies) would be so petty as to do this.

Anyway, why would they just pick on BD and not other Muslim countries like Pakistan who also have millions of workers in the Gulf?
Their leadership is petty and with no morals.
KSA asked for Pakistani troops to help in their Yemen intervention. After PK refused, they decided to recall debt Pakistan owed to KSA and had to take a loan from china to repay that debt. KSA refused to support PK on kashmir and things went downhill. Things have improved somewhat , with Trump gone but it is nowhere near what it used to be.
As for the UAE , it and many other GCC countries pressured PK to recognise. UAE is essentially pro-india now. They even opened an embassy in Myanmar just after the Rohingya genocide.
Foreign workers of our country are considered disposable , they'll get workers from another country if they have to.
It basically looks like these bunch of AL turds just did this in order to make their lives a bit easier one way or another.
Palestinian right to self-determination probably one of the few things BAL and BNP agree on. they wouldn't have done it if they weren't forced to by someone. Even the US and EU are treating Bd with kid-gloves to woo us into the Indo-pacific agenda. That leaves China and the gulf states which have a great deal of influence on BD. China has no horse in this race , so it was the GCC countries.

it doesn't even make sense from a ruler's perspective, which is to remain in power. Why jeopardise your rule by carrying out a controversial decision that will lead to instability? they have been forced.

Indonesia , which is a country we should learn from it doesn't have that line on its passport. However, It does not recognise [X]. And i hope that's as far as we go
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I don't think their protest will carry any weight really. BNP as a party is a non-entity by now. Sad but true.
It's also sad that Israel was one of the first nations to recognize Bangladesh and sympathize with its people's plight, yet Bangladesh's leaders continue the old policy of demonizing the Jewish State instead.

At the time it might be understood - not excused - on the grounds that the new country of Bangladesh and its leaders had many other things to set in order. But now, today, aren't Bangladeshi leaders sticking to the old anti-Zionist script for the same reasons West Pakistani leaders whipped up hatred of their East Pakistani Awami leaders (and therefore Bangladeshis) as Indian puppets in 1971: because the hate was/is a useful political expedient?
 
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Bangladesh removes passport clause that barred travel to Israel

Bangladesh drops ‘except Israel’ clause from its e-passport at a time when Israel is being censured globally for its attacks in Gaza.

Bangladesh was the first country in South Asia and 119th in the world to introduce the e-passport - a travel document with a small integrated chip embedded in the cover or pages - in January [Getty Images]

Bangladesh was the first country in South Asia and 119th in the world to introduce the e-passport - a travel document with a small integrated chip embedded in the cover or pages - in January [Getty Images]

By Faisal Mahmud
27 May 2021

Dhaka, Bangladesh – A decision by the government of Bangladesh to remove a clause from its e-passport that barred its nationals from visiting Israel has prompted speculation that the country might be looking to normalise ties with Israel.

The move to remove the “except Israel” clause from its e-passport has shocked people in the South Asian country of 160 million, with many questioning the decision that follows the deaths of hundreds of Palestinians in the Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip.

Older Bangladeshi passports used to bear the sentence: “This passport is valid for all the countries of the world except Israel.” Six months ago, when the South Asian country rolled out its new e-passport, the “except Israel” phrase was removed without any public announcement.

Bangladesh was the first country in South Asia and the 119th in the world to introduce the e-passport – a travel document with a small integrated circuit, or “chip”, embedded in the cover or pages – in January last year.

That information came to light after Gilad Cohen, deputy director-general for Asia and the Pacific at the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, tweeted last week that Bangladesh had lifted its travel ban on Israel.

“Great news! Bangladesh has removed a travel ban to Israel. This is a welcome step and I call on the Bangladeshi government to move forward and establish diplomatic ties with Israel so both our peoples could benefit and prosper,” he tweeted.

The Bangladesh government, however, vehemently denied plans to establish any ties with Israel and said its position towards Israel remains the same.

AK Abdul Momen, the country’s foreign minister, on Wednesday told a media briefing attended by Al Jazeera that Bangladesh has not changed its position towards Israel. “No one from Bangladesh can visit Israel” and if anyone does, “legal action will be taken against that person,” the minister said.

The change to the new e-passport was only to “maintain international standard”, Abdul Momen said, without elaborating.

“Passport is just an identity and it doesn’t reflect the foreign policy of a country. The foreign policy of Bangladesh remains the same as it was during Bangabandhu’s (the founding father Sheikh Mujibur Rahman) time. We don’t recognise Israel,” the minister said.

No actual legal bars
However, after the change, Bangladeshi nationals can now travel to Israel from a third country if they can obtain a visa, immigration officials, who did not want to be named, told Al Jazeera.

None of 17 Legal Acts governing Bangladesh’s immigration rules, which Al Jazeera checked, can impose a bar on travelling to Israel, contradicting Abdul Momen’s assertion of legal action.

Al Jazeera spoke to several senior officials from the Immigration and Passports departments, none of whom could clarify whether a legal impediment to visiting Israel exists. One official, who preferred anonymity, told Al Jazeera that the passport and immigration acts could not stop a Bangladeshi from visiting Israel after the change.

Major General Ayub Chowdhury, director-general of the Department of Immigration and Passports of Bangladesh, told Al Jazeera that a passport alone was not enough to visit a country.
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Even though Bangladesh has no formal diplomatic relations with Israel, Bangladesh under Prime Minister Hasina has bought Israeli-made surveillance equipment, according to an Al Jazeera investigation [File: Frank Franklin II/AP Photo]“You also need visa. If the country you want to visit doesn’t give you visa, you can’t visit the country,” he said.

Asked whether there would be anything to stop a Bangladeshi passport holder from visiting Israel if they were able to receive an Israeli visa in a third country, Chowdhury did not respond.

But former Bangladesh Foreign Secretary Md Touhid Hossain told Al Jazeera that he did not think any Bangladeshi with an e-passport would have “any trouble visiting there” once they obtained a visa.

Bangladesh had also previously barred its nationals from visiting apartheid South Africa – a decision that changed once white minority rule ended in 1994.

Taiwan was also a destination which older Bangladeshi passport-holders were barred from travelling to, Hossain said, but it was dropped from the banned list in 2004.

“We still don’t recognise Taiwan but there is no legal bar in visiting Taiwan. Bangladeshi people go there for various business purposes,” he said, adding that the same could now happen in the case of Israel.

Not just a simple omission

Ali Riaz, distinguished professor of politics and government at Illinois State University in the United States, said in his view, the change was not just a simple omission but “a deliberate choice” made by the Bangladeshi government.

“The rationale provided by the government that it was to make it consistent with international standard is very weak at its best, unacceptable at its worst,” said Riaz.

He said a decision of this magnitude could not have been made without considering its implications. “I don’t think the Bangladeshi foreign ministry is so naïve,” he said, adding that the question was whether this was done to signal a policy shift, or as a result of being influenced by a global or regional power.

Even though Bangladesh has no formal diplomatic relations with Israel, the country, under Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina, bought Israeli-made surveillance equipment through a middleman last year, according to an Al Jazeera investigation. The mass spying tools can hack and monitor the phones of hundreds of people simultaneously.

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After the passport change, Bangladeshi nationals can now travel to Israel from a third country if they can obtain a visa [File: AM Ahad/AP Photo]Also in the past few months, several op-eds have surfaced in international media, arguing in favour of Bangladesh normalising relations with Israel and the “myriad benefits” it would bring.

In an opinion piece called Is Bangladesh moving to normalize relations with Israel? published in Nikkei Asia, Arafat Kabir, a Bangladeshi research intern at the Washington, DC-based Quincy Institute, opined that “increased cooperation offers clear benefits for both countries”.

In another article in the Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, Dhaka-based lawyer Umran Chowdhury wrote, “Israel offered to recognize newly-founded Bangladesh in 1972. Despite similar independence struggles, the logic of a strategic relationship, and the lack of direct hostilities, they still have no economic, defence or diplomatic ties. It’s time for change.”

‘An immoral choice’

Bangladeshi journalist Nazmul Ahasan, arguing against Chowdhury’s stance, wrotean opinion piece in the same newspaper called For Bangladesh, Not Recognizing Israel is a Moral Choice.

He wrote that Israel is emblematic of what Pakistan would have looked like had it been able to stop Bangladesh’s fight for independence, a struggle which culminated with Bangladesh seceding from Pakistan in 1971 after a bloody war.

“Just as Pakistan called Bengali nationalists ‘terrorists,’ so Israel calls Palestinian freedom fighters ‘terrorists.’ We, therefore, rightly find Palestinian struggle more analogous to our historical experience, except that ours has already achieved success,” he wrote.

“Since its inception, Bangladesh opposed recognising Israel unless a Palestinian state is established alongside. Israel did not comply with this prerequisite and also abandoned the goal altogether,” Ahasan told Al Jazeera.

“Since we did not accept what Israel did in the 1970s, why should we accept it now? If anything, we should set the bar higher 50 years later.”

Ahasan said Bangladesh’s passports previously contained a similar “except” clause against the South African apartheid regime. “It is, therefore, regrettable that Bangladesh has decided to remove the phrase at a time when the apartheid characterisation of Israel is gaining more traction than ever.”

He said contrary to what the Bangladesh foreign ministry had said, its e-passports did not require repealing such a clause to be of “international standards”. Malaysia, which was among the first countries to introduce e-passports, retains the “except Israel” caveat, Ahasan said.

 
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Their leadership is petty and with no morals.
KSA asked for Pakistani troops to help in their Yemen intervention. After PK refused, they decided to recall debt Pakistan owed to KSA and had to take a loan from china to repay that debt. KSA refused to support PK on kashmir and things went downhill. Things have improved somewhat , with Trump gone but it is nowhere near what it used to be.
As for the UAE , it and many other GCC countries pressured PK to recognise. UAE is essentially pro-india now. They even opened an embassy in Myanmar just after the Rohingya genocide.
Foreign workers of our country are considered disposable , they'll get workers from another country if they have to.

Palestinian right to self-determination probably one of the few things BAL and BNP agree on. they wouldn't have done it if they weren't forced to by someone. Even the US and EU are treating Bd with kid-gloves to woo us into the Indo-pacific agenda. That leaves China and the gulf states which have a great deal of influence on BD. China has no horse in this race , so it was the GCC countries.

it doesn't even make sense from a ruler's perspective, which is to remain in power. Why jeopardise your rule by carrying out a controversial decision that will lead to instability? they have been forced.

Indonesia , which is a country we should learn from it doesn't have that line on its passport. However, It does not recognise [X]. And i hope that's as far as we go
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I am not convinced that this the real reason as BD government can sometimes do some dumb things.

Anyway that is another reason to hurry up and get all those 100 SEZs set up by 2030 and make sure that no BD'shi ever has to face the inhumanity of working for these Gulfies ever again.

It will also have the added bonus of making BD not susceptible to any form of blackmail from these Gulf clowns.

Already hundreds of thousands of jobs have been created in these SEZs and if BD can reach the 10 million goal mark by 2030, then it can wave goodbye to needing to export ANY non-skilled labour to the Gulf or anywhere else in the world.
 
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Just answer one question -

If Bangladesh does not recognise Israel, why is it writing "valid in all countries except Israel"? If Bangladesh does not recognise Israel, it should behave as if there is nothing called Israel but only Palestine. But, writing such a sentence shows that Bangladesh recognises Israel but simply does not like Israel. So, the whole point of not recognising Israel stands moot when Bangladesh is openly mentioning the word "Israel" in their passports. It is like giving Israel the highest importance of all other countries in the world, though it is a negative importance/hate.
Are you alright with your weird logic. Do not utter the word, "water", it will then vanish away!! Avery good logic!!
 
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I really find it hard to believe that they(Gulfies) would be so petty as to do this.

Anyway, why would they just pick on BD and not other Muslim countries like Pakistan who also have millions of workers in the Gulf?

Maybe there was some Arab pressure but the thought they would expel millions of BD workers in the Gulf is too far-fetched. They would also suffer negatively from this as it makes their position weaker since they would have a lesser pool of workers to pick from.

It basically looks like these bunch of AL turds just did this in order to make their lives a bit easier one way or another.
It is possible BD was already warm to the idea and did not require too much convincing/threatening.
 
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It's also sad that Israel was one of the first nations to recognize Bangladesh and sympathize with its people's plight, yet Bangladesh's leaders continue the old policy of demonizing the Jewish State instead.

At the time it might be understood - not excused - on the grounds that the new country of Bangladesh and its leaders had many other things to set in order. But now, today, aren't Bangladeshi leaders sticking to the old anti-Zionist script for the same reasons West Pakistani leaders whipped up hatred of their East Pakistani Awami leaders (and therefore Bangladeshis) as Indian puppets in 1971: because the hate was/is a useful political expedient?

Nations recognize (and trade with) each other based on Geopolitics and most importantly, SELF-INTEREST.

Look at what the Chinese are doing. It is the same thing.

To Bangladesh administration - its economy, exports and livelihood interests of its citizens come first and foremost.

It will not risk these factors based on emotion, hyperbole or hoopla. These are cold, hard facts.

Israel with its 9 million people cannot become a nation for Bangladesh to trade with significantly, nor to employ Bangladeshis.

The Gulf Arab nations or Saudi, however - are. So are the US, UK and EU. Bangladesh will continue following Israel policies in agreement with those countries.

Lastly and most importantly. please don't mix religion with Statecraft. The two are distinct factors.
 
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So for Bangladeshis the route to Israel goes through immigration jail ...

 
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Are you alright with your weird logic. Do not utter the word, "water", it will then vanish away!! Avery good logic!!
If Bangladesh accepts the existence of Israel, then it is same as recognising it. IF BD genuinely not recognise Israel, it should treat entire Israel as Palestine which is currently under some terrorist control, just like the way parts of Syria, Iraq are under ISIS control or parts of Afghanistan is under Taliban control. No one recognises ISIS or Taliban as states despite having control of territory. Similarly, if BD does not recognise Israel, it should treat it similar to how ISIS or Taliban is treated, not write Israel's name on the passport and announce everyone of Israel's legitimacy. It is like USA writing in its passport "Valid internationally except in Islamic State" or India writing "Valid internationally except in Pakistani Kashmir"
 
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If Bangladesh accepts the existence of Israel, then it is same as recognising it. IF BD genuinely not recognise Israel, it should treat entire Israel as Palestine which is currently under some terrorist control, just like the way parts of Syria, Iraq are under ISIS control or parts of Afghanistan is under Taliban control. No one recognises ISIS or Taliban as states despite having control of territory. Similarly, if BD does not recognise Israel, it should treat it similar to how ISIS or Taliban is treated, not write Israel's name on the passport and announce everyone of Israel's legitimacy. It is like USA writing in its passport "Valid internationally except in Islamic State" or India writing "Valid internationally except in Pakistani Kashmir"

Hamas is a democratically elected political entity. Whose charter states they are in for 2 state solution, even though that would mean recognizing Israel. Comparing Hamas with ISIS is the result of the hogwash you have been fed through your media.
 
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12:01 PM, May 26, 2021 / LAST MODIFIED: 12:03 PM, May 26, 2021
Legal action if anyone tries to visit Israel from Bangladesh: foreign minister


Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen. Photo: File/Collected
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Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen. Photo: File/Collected

UNB, Dhaka

Foreign Minister Dr AK Abdul Momen today warned of action as per the immigration law if anyone tries to go to Israel from Bangladesh as it still does not recognise Israel.
"We remain very strong (on legal ground). Everybody knows it. Our immigration will stop them immediately. Immigration will control those things and they do. They've been doing it for years," he told reporters, adding that it is the home ministry that ensures the enforcement of the law.
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The foreign minister made the remarks while responding to questions from reporters after the handover of pharmaceutical products for the people of Palestine to its Ambassador to Bangladesh Yousef SY Ramadan at state guesthouse Padma. Foreign Secretary Masud Bin Momen was also present.
Dr Momen said Bangladesh has not changed its position towards Israel, and no one from Bangladesh can visit Israel.
"If anyone goes there, the person will be liable to be prosecuted. There has been evidence before," said the minister, adding that the government never gave permission to anyone to visit Israel.

He said there is confusion as they have created a new e-passport six to seven months ago deleting "except Israel" to "maintain international standard". "Passport is an identity and it doesn't relate to foreign policy."
The minister said the foreign policy of Bangladesh remains the same as it was during Bangabandhu's time. "We don't recognise Israel."
Dude... nothing will happen... they can stamp you a seperate stickable paper to put in your ppt.
 
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