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LEAKED - India is burning Pakistan through TTP: Latif Ullah Mehsud TTP's 2nd In Command speaks out.

Please do comment on strategic reorientation, and the drivers behind the factors of making a paradigm shift in minimum credible deterrence in the light of this statement from a captured TTP terrorist, who btw is not a Indian national or has any credible evidence that links him to Indian state machinery.

Drivers behind the factors of paradigm shift from minimum credible deterrence to full spectrum deterrence includes employment of security forces on western border and sub conventional warfare.
Morever credible evidences of neighbouring agencies involvement in insurgency translates into re orientation of existing strategy. In defense you can't win. Offensive strategy is best defensive strategy as offence is best form of defence.
 
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Problems are found in almost every Society in this World but There are some harsh ground realities which might be difficult to understand for some people. Cold War is an Idea which still being used by Many countries to destablize their rivals mostly by the Allies of Russia which have seen a wide strategic turn points during the Cold War Era. Same is the case with Militancy. Without a proper Funding and Support the Terrorist organizations can't breath for longer then a day. Sri lanka is Quite an impressive example of this, when they found the Blood Lines of Tamils they started cutting those Blood lines which made the organization weaker and with final blow SLA crushed the Organization which proved that LTTE was surviving on foreign aid and without it they fell apart.
LTTE were pretty good, long after India went hostile on them they were still operating improv subs and even did an air raid on Colombo airport lol

I think after the LTTE the mantle passed to Hezbollah for being a super resourceful insurgent group, Hezzies run a parallel govt, are mostly legit but fancy toys and capability wise...

Afghan mujh also served their purpose vs the USSR, as did the Mukti Bahini in the erstwhile East Pakistan.

Nation states have used proxies forever..
 
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Aight, this was fun, gtg now....
@Spectre @Abingdonboy @Skull and Bones @anant_s @Ind4Ever check out the thread. Classic content.

@Horus trying to be naughty as usual :D

Some members even think Tejas @BIAS 2nd day demo is a fake one. And indeed India is behind all pathetic situation in Pakistan.

Best reason to get away from their people. Why Pakistan spend too much on unproven Chinese mal : India

Why terrorists lives happily ever in Pakistan : India doing it

Why debts in Pakistan? Indian economic war

Why summer is so hot? Because of India and it's weapon called Kali

Seriously people with out mental disorders will be questioning these theories. But so called Patriots in our neighborhood try to make it real .

Even if those who killed innocent people come forward and accept their crimes . They will call them bluff and blame India :D

That's how you loot, keep the mouths shut.

India has better job to do guys... Than killing non state actors. Even though these kind of actions from our side could seen as response !!!! Just in case
 
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Drivers behind the factors of paradigm shift from minimum credible deterrence to full spectrum deterrence includes employment of security forces on western border and sub conventional warfare.
Morever credible evidences of neighbouring agencies involvement in insurgency translates into re orientation of existing strategy. In defense you can't win. Offensive strategy is best defensive strategy as offence is best form of defence.
haha. I was waiting for the "offense is the best defence" sales pitch. This is the wondrous key word for entities who have already mitigated their defensive requirements and wan't to masquerade offense as a defensive option.
Show me one instance when offense is the best defense in context of inter state warfare where a weaker nation on offense has prevailed.

Re-orientation of a state security policy is not just derived from evolving events and pre-cursors to security threats. But by planning the resource allocation to mitigate potential short term and long term risks. This is done through planning, tactical challenges do not define a security paradgm as a construct for the military doctrine of any sensible nation.
 
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TTP is up own devil child. My friend

Lol...Don't be over clever sir...Your are breaking down work of two organizations giving the impression of everything...We never said Balochistan shia killing is because of India...At least I didn't said that ever...That was Iran and Pak's matter...We are talking about TTP and BLA here...At least you accept BLA funding,,,! and you wil accept for TTP funding too...!
P.S: Its the other way around...Everything that happens in India is because of Pakistan...During an active ongoing operation you people decide how Pakistan attacked you...! Lol
 
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These baniya are two faced

Bhagal main shuri aur moun main peace peace

and these Indians are blind nationalists who consider all their agencies, soldiers and politicians as saint who cannot do anything wrong in others countries for self-interest even when their defence ministers talk shit openly in public so its quiet stupid to argue with them because they will never realise the wrong doing of their governemnt against a country which they perceive as enemy

Presence of India in Afghanistan whom they share nothing neither religion nor culture or any border is enough to know what are the interests of India in afghanistan..its definitely not self-less love for afghans
 
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you are being gracious
I wont apologise for India re TTP terrorism support because it will be foolish not to use the opportunity when there is instability in Pakistan since the American invasion of Afghanistan. but such commentary is lazy and escaping responsibility.

TTP is an inward monster of ours .. again its not because of LeT and JeM...they are irrelevant.
its a make up of us people.. and again I would exclude KSA and Iran from blame too. the hand of
Iran, India and KSA might have been catalyist but its the willingness of the host.

check this statement out repeated by general public and media persons. who say its all the mistake of Musharraf who sided with USA and betrayed the Taliban.. so TTP has the right to do what it is doing.
meaning if he had not done so.. TTP would have not have picked up arms against the state ( deferred the killing.)
the successful attacks on our bases have been because of insider information as well from those people who are sold to the terrorist ideology.

I ask my self what are three things that can help a state to recover and counter destabilisation?

1. effective protection / distance from conflict zone
2. friendly neighbours
3. good citizens (good means humane, loyal, moderate)

compare that to Pakistan

1. we got Afghanistan with borders that cant be controlled.next to us
2. all I can say is only Iran is indifferent to us at best
3. we got people who apologise for terrorists

As an Indian I would recommend the planners to slow down things a bit so that Americans are not forced to sit us down and and make us stop. so far there is nothing much for Pakistan to show to America which can close our shops so lets continue the program while it lasts.

we got a cleric in the capital who is openly challenging and mocking the state and when the police turns up to him requesting him to tone down his rhetoric he insults it and sends it away. the awesomeness of our COAS goes flat on the question of Red Mosque. the Cleric can summon 4K + guys and can practically cripple the capital if he wants to. not sure who is involved, definitely not India because that will be shameful for us but some say KSA is behind him and that explains his immunity.
KSA was invaded politically by US when oil was discovered there long time back and through KSA US controls Pakistani masses through Islamic sentiments :lol:.

Why are India and Pakistan fighting basically? For Kashmir? Kashmir is a hyped up conflict. India and China have land dispute but no fighting ever. If Kashmir issue is solved then both countries will live peacefully? Nope. Hatred among us has been injected so deeply over the years that you will be termed idiot if you don't blame India and same for me. You will be laughed off if you ever think there can be a 3rd hand involved in this enmity. Kashmir issue might be the problem but solving Kashmir issue is not the solution.

Being blunt, if both the goverments are indeed involved indirectly for thier personal long term ajenda, then they are being assisted by third party aswell. Third party just needs to give direction to pathetic illitrate crowd who just believe everything snowballs the situation.
 
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For those who really want to know Who are these TTP... AFGHAN TALIBANS?

They are not "the Taliban" that the U.S. forces have been at war with in Afghanistan, according to Raza Rumi, director of policy and programs at the Jinnah Institute, a Pakistani think tank. But that they adopted the name "Taliban" is no coincidence.

The group is very closely linked with its namesake in Afghanistan as well as with al Qaeda. It shares its religious extremist ideology -- but is its own distinct group.

The TTP also has a different goal, but its tactics are the same, says the analyst.

"Their primary target is the Pakistani state and its military," he says. "It resents the fact that it (Pakistan) has an alliance with the West, and it wants Sharia to be imposed in Pakistan."

Another terrorism analyst notes that "there is a shared heritage between the two groups."

"The Pakistani Taliban emerged as a power alongside the Taliban as a kind of network of support," says Matthew Henman of IHS Jane's Terrorism and Insurgency Centre.

During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, fighters from Pakistan crossed over the border to fight. They retained close relations with the Taliban after returning home, Rumi says.

There are other militant groups in Pakistan's tribal region not under the umbrella of the TTP, who support the Taliban but do not pursue Tehrik-i-Taliban's goals of replacing the Pakistani state with an Islamist one.

READ MORE: Taliban school attack: What do the militants want?

Where do the TTP's roots lie?

Pakistan's army began hunting various militant groups in the semi-autonomous regions along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, known as the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), in 2002.

In reaction, militant "supporters of the Afghan Taliban in the tribal areas transitioned into a mainstream Taliban force of their own," according to the Council on Foreign Relations.

In 2007, like-minded militias in Pakistan's tribal region came together under the command of Baitullah Mehsud, who was killed in a U.S. drone strike in 2009.

As a result of its beginnings, Tehrik-i-Taliban are not a unified fighting force but a coordinated coalition of militias.

"Since its formation, the TTP have been dominated by one tribe," Henman says. "That is the Mehsud tribe." When Baitullah Mehsud died, factions competed for Tehrik-i-Taliban's leadership.

Who is their current leader?

Baitullah's successor, Hakimullah Mehsud, was killed in a U.S. drone strike in November 2013, setting off a power struggle among top commanders of the TTP that led to violent clashes in which dozens of people were killed.

Appointed by a tribal council, Mullah Fazlullah has stood at the helm of the TPP since Mehsud's death. He hails from the country's Swat valley and is the first TTP leader who is not a Mehsud. He has struggled to contain internal discord among the group's factions, especially those within the Mehsud tribe, which makes up the majority of the TTP.

The militant groups control different regions within the tribal areas and often have different agendas and political objectives. The factions don't always speak with one voice, although it is widely believed they now recognize Mullah Fazlullah as their leader.

The TTP may have started in the tribal regions, but have since expanded their network.

They are "not just guys hiding in mountains or caves," Rumi explains. They maintain loose factions spread out as far as Punjab province.

"They have also been joined by criminal gangs" to raise money through kidnappings and extortion. But the TTP have maintained the coalition nature of their roots, which leads to internal strife.

The TTP's opposition to the government and its allies, particularly the United States, has galvanized them beyond their differences.
 
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These baniya are two faced

Bhagal main shuri aur moun main peace peace

and these Indians are blind nationalists who consider all their agencies, soldiers and politicians as saint who cannot do anything wrong in others countries for self-interest even when their defence ministers talk shit openly in public so its quiet stupid to argue with them because they will never realise the wrong doing of their governemnt against a country which they perceive as enemy

Presence of India in Afghanistan whom they share nothing neither religion nor culture or any border is enough to know what are the interests of India in afghanistan..its definitely not self-less love for afghans

So what is the reason behind pakistan china friendship as chinese are the least culturally associated with you people !
 
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TTP is up own devil child. My friend
You guys are ridiculous
when terrorism happen in India/Afghanistan then they say terrorists need training, funding, logistic support which Pakistani ISI provide them
When this high terrorism happen in Pakistan then terrorists dont need any support/funding of anyone but then again its pakistan who give them arms, training and funding so that they attack on our army and naval headquarters and kill our children in schools..Pathetic Indian logic..
 
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except for a few post by some ttas and few other members,this whole thread is garbage and that includes op.
 
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