Lavish lifestyle of VIPs political matter, says SC

[Thorough Pro]

Everyone knows

Hi,
Take suo moto notice at least, ask for who is responsible

 

[salarsikander]

Everyone knows

Hi,
Apparently SC does not, its busy advising federal govt on how to invoke article 6 on state institution (military)

 

[VCheng]

Hi,
and it has decided for itself, we all are well aware of it.

SC is only god for providing legal blanket cover to goons and criminals

It has also prosecuted criminals and enforced laws. One cannot agree with everything an SC does, but one must respect its decisions just the same.

 

[salarsikander]

It has also prosecuted criminals and enforced laws. One cannot agree with everything an SC does, but one must respect its decisions just the same.

Hi!
One will only respect the institution as long as it does the job that it was build for, you cannot expect us to respect the for just being SC.
YES, like they have prosecuted Mr 10% swiss case, memogate scandal, corruption of the last governmen, and the current govt failures.

In fact these l cases do not fall under their jurisdiction. They are buysy wielding their power.

Whatever they did was history, let's move on to new cases. People are dying now!

 

[VCheng]

Hi!
One will only respect the institution as long as it does the job that it was build for, you cannot expect us to respect the for just being SC.
YES, like they have prosecuted Mr 10% swiss case, memogate scandal, corruption of the last governmen, and the current govt failures.

In fact these l cases do not fall under their jurisdiction. They are buysy wielding their power.

Whatever they did was history, let's move on to new cases. People are dying now!

"One will only respect the institution as long as it does the job that it was build for". Good. Now tell me how much you would respect the Army when it violates its sworn Oath of Office and meddles in areas forbidden to it by the Constitution? Why have different standards for different institutions?

The SC is doing its job as well it can in the environment in Pakistan, given everything.

 

[salarsikander]

"One will only respect the institution as long as it does the job that it was build for". Good. Now tell me how much you would respect the Army when it violates its sworn Oath of Office and meddles in areas forbidden to it by the Constitution? Why have different standards for different institutions?

The SC is doing its job as well it can in the environment in Pakistan, given everything.

Hi,

The people who are conducting Oath are themselves deceivers. And what army does is totally different to and what SC does.

Army has is been doing its job great. When all the civil institution fails and there is total breakdown of failure, Army has to act as redundancy system, otherwise our neighbour which is six times our size will find the best opportune moment.

It also against the constitution to do corruption, to send memos to other country for the protection of current govt from state institution. It is also constitutionally wrong to use excessive police force to not disperse but kill the legitimate protestors (lahore incident 2014).

And it is equally wrong to support those goons and criminals in such system.

Are you aware of ifthekar chaudarys son's power ?

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

The people who are conducting Oath are themselves deceivers. And what army does is totally different to and what SC does.

Army has is been doing its job great. When all the civil institution fails and there is total breakdown of failure, Army has to act as redundancy system, otherwise our neighbour which is six times our size will find the best opportune moment.

It also against the constitution to do corruption, to send memos to other country for the protection of current govt from state institution. It is also constitutionally wrong to use excessive police force to not disperse but kill the legitimate protestors (lahore incident 2014).

And it is equally wrong to support those goons and criminals in such system.

Are you aware of ifthekar chaudarys son's power ?

And these attitudes are exactly why Pakistan has the problems that is has these days. Justifying the actions of one critical institution while criticizing another will never work, when both are failing in their duties equally. That is the blunt truth, which as we know, hurts.

 

[salarsikander]

And these attitudes are exactly why Pakistan has the problems that is has these days. Justifying the actions of one critical institution while criticizing another will never work, when both are failing in their duties equally. That is the blunt truth, which as we know, hurts.

Hi,

No, please not at all. The case is of national security.

I have given you very valid justifications.

The paper of constitution will not help you in chaos, created by political parties to wield their illegal unjustified power ( excessive force and corruption name to a few) and when your enemy takes the opportunity to strike at that troublesome moment, these sold out loser will run away to other country in first instance.

It is we locals who will have to face the heat

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

No, please not at all. The case is of national security.

I have given you very valid justifications.

The paper of constitution will not help you in chaos, created by political parties to wield their illegal unjustified power ( excessive force and corruption name to a few) and when your enemy takes the opportunity to strike at that troublesome moment, these sold out loser will run away to other country in first instance.

It is we locals who will have to face the heat

Any nation that is able to justify destroying its own Constitution will always pay the price for lawlessness. As we can clearly see.

 

[salarsikander]

Any nation that is able to justify destroying its own Constitution will always pay the price for lawlessness. As we can clearly see.

Hi,

So at time when civil institution have failed us and so has judiciary too. what should we do?
or wait until we are totally disintegrated by our enemy ?

or keep on waving the constitution saying no one should intervene in this chaos as it is not justified by constitution ?

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

So at time when civil institution have failed us and so has judiciary too. what should we do?
or wait until we are totally disintegrated by our enemy ?

or keep on waving the constitution saying no one should intervene in this chaos as it is not justified by constitution ?

As I said, a nation that is able to justify destroying its own Constitution will always pay the price for lawlessness, which is clearly seen in the case of Pakistan. You may justify it, but it also comes with a huge price.

 

[salarsikander]

As I said, a nation that is able to justify destroying its own Constitution will always pay the price for lawlessness, which is clearly seen in the case of Pakistan. You may justify it, but it also comes with a huge price.

Hi,
hence my argument is not one-sided or having double standards.

what one party does will have consequences and that will be borne by the nation.

Alhamdulillah, they are not as bad as other ME where the situation has gone critically out of their hand, (perhaps they were thinking if its in the constitution of army to intervene, oh oui forgot the ruling parties had private army)

 

[VCheng]

Hi,
hence my argument is not one-sided or having double standards.

what one party does will have consequences and that will be borne by the nation.

Alhamdulillah, they are not as bad as other ME where the situation has gone critically out of their hand, (perhaps they were thinking if its in the constitution of army to intervene, oh oui forgot the ruling parties had private army)

Your double standards are clearly evident when it comes to the Army versus other institutions, when they are all at fault. Of the entire nation has no choice but to pay the price. Yes, you are correct that is not as bad as the ME - yet.

 

[coffee_cup]

Monkey courts, someone said it quite right!

When it comes to releasing terrorists, or taking Suo Motto on purely executive matters, they become super active and suddenly everything falls under their jurisdiction.

Shooting down military courts is the latest example...

 

[salarsikander]

Your double standards are clearly evident when it comes to the Army versus other institutions, when they are all at fault. Of the entire nation has no choice but to pay the price. Yes, you are correct that is not as bad as the ME - yet.

No,
I am not. One can clearly say about you, though.

I merely say, its the civvil jahil leaders break it first and then the chain of chaos is created.

One has to curb that chain, Law enforcement agencies cant, since there aye effectively under the control of political parties.

We are left with option two options:
1. Let the chaos go out of control before some other country intervenes and we get disintegrated.
2. Or we let the boys to come in and out some sense of these losers.

I would take the latter at any given day, because of ineptness of our leaders. If they were any better, None of this would have happened in first place.

Curbing violence is not unconstitutional, when govt fails to enact the policies it was elected for.

State has to intervene (whether or not it is good) the price of ineptness of jahil leaders has to be paid, one way or the other