Launch failures common: Experts

[shekhar]

Looks like u have been using it since birth......also beta this aint ur mamas forum behave.

what about you Mr SENIOR MEMBER

 

[CHTYA_nandan]

Did I mention that they're developing two-stage satellite rockets? Not gonna troll any more... Hope you guys can get it right next time!

You should have continued your schooling after Jr. KG.
Or if its again your "typo" then you must be thinking about TSTO (two stage to orbit).

As far as India is concerned, we are not behind the chinese. One more prick in your bloated chest. have a look.

Indian Avatar RLV TSTO

 

[BJlaowai]

To clearify things for the Indians on this thread, the CZ-3C is a 3.8 ton GTO payload rocket. The Chinese launched their first satellite rocket in 1970 while their 2-ton GTO rockets lifted in the 1980s.

I think they have a a 14 ton GTO rocket ready for 2014.

Sorry for rubbing in.

woow.. is that true? any link?

 

[ao333]

You should have continued your schooling after Jr. KG.
Or if its again your "typo" then you must be thinking about TSTO (two stage to orbit).

As far as India is concerned, we are not behind the chinese. One more prick in your bloated chest. have a look.

Indian Avatar RLV TSTO

Lol, this is so sad. I recall that this thread pertains to satellite rockets. What can two stage denote other than Two Stage To Orbit? Two Stage then Faliure?

woow.. is that true? any link?

As per requested: The 14-ton payload GTO rocket, which has the world's second largest carrying capacity factor (0.0146) of any rocket, after Boeing's Delta IV Heavy, will be launching in 2014. The Chinese have exceeded the Russians in space rockets while India is struggling (failing) with a 2-ton. Clearly, India, which has yet to catch up with Russia, is not behind China.

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[Harop]

Clearly, India, which has yet to catch up with Russia, is not behind China.

Clearly China has to learn how to knock off weight from its sats, India is achieving all that she wants with sats within GSLV's payload. Maybe the Chinese need some help with fabricating lighter sats, and reducing the energy draining electronics on them.

On a more serious note

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March_%28rocket_family)
&
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_heavy_lift_launch_systems

Currently active most powerful rocket in the LM family is LM 3B. It can place 5100-5500 kg sats into GTO. There is not a single operational Chinese rocket amongst the heavy lift launch systems.

 

[WAQAS119]

Who fought like men sending those tribal B***s in 48..?Y u didnt send in ur regular army to fight like men..?

Those Tribals were Pakistanis, ...Unlike u people hiding behind USSR.

 

[ao333]

Clearly China has to learn how to knock off weight from its sats, India is achieving all that she wants with sats within GSLV's payload. Maybe the Chinese need some help with fabricating lighter sats, and reducing the energy draining electronics on them.

So you are saying that Russia is allowing China to copy its satellites, despite the Compass being its largest regional competitor? Very true!

Tell me if the Indian military has ANYTHING indigenous that's better than what the Chinese have. Anything... rockets, planes, tanks, you name it.

Clearly, India has to learn how to make GNSS satellites first in order to make them lighter. Oh wait, I think India's satellites only cover India... Maybe they can make their home-grown GNSS sats lighter -- by folding one from paper and blow it into space with their big mouths (directed to the person who prompted this remark, not to the Indian population).

 

[mrwarrior006]

So you are saying that Russia is allowing China to copy its satellites, despite the Compass being its largest regional competitor?

Tell me if the Indian military has ANYTHING indigenous that's better than what the Chinese have. Anything... rockets, planes, tanks, you name it.

Clearly, India has to learn how to make GNSS satellites before making them lighter. Oh wait, India already can -- by folding one from paper and blow it into space with their big mouths (.

hmmmmmm
indian army as a whole


and dont worry whether we make with paper or metal or we will launch with our mouth or rocket its none of ur problem mate

 

[Harop]

it's the first time india lunch with her indigenous cryogenic engine,so it's very normal .i don't know if other 4 countries (U,F,R,J) have the similar experience ,CZ-3C also failed the first lunch in 1996


good luck next time

Here is a vid

 

[faithfulguy]

Every countries has trouble when their space program is at its infancy. US and Russia in the 50-60s. Europe in 70s. China and Japan in 80s and 90s. Indian now and the next decades. But eventually, India will achieve what these other countries have achieve. This shows India is progressing. Trying in half of the battle.

 

[ao333]

Harop mate:

"To clearify things for the Indians on this thread, the CZ-3C is a 3.8 ton GTO payload rocket. The Chinese launched their first satellite rocket in 1970 [successfully] while their 2-ton GTO rockets lifted in the 1980s [successfully]." Both the Soviet Union and the United States have a lower success rate than China (89&#37. LOL, I'm not implying that India has a 100% fail rate or anything.

On a more serious note

Long March (rocket family) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
&
Comparison of heavy lift launch systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Currently active most powerful rocket in the LM family is LM 3B. It can place 5100-5500 kg sats into GTO. There is not a single operational Chinese rocket amongst the heavy lift launch systems.

How uninformed are you?

First, the LM 3B cannot carry 5100-5500 kg... The LM 3B has a 5100 GTO payload while the LM-3B/E, which launched 3 years ago can lift 5500kg into GT orbit.

Second, I mentioned 2014... You're stuffing words in my mouth.

In any case, the United States is the only country in the world with operational heavy lifters. Europe is not a country. The Chinese 14-ton will launch a decade before the Russian 9-ton, which is still being designed. Heck, the Russians have yet to restore 24 satellites in 34 years. By the way, unlike the Indians, when the Chinese announce a launch date, they launch it on that day. (not making any references to Tejas)

Clearly, Indian rockets, which has yet to catch up with Russia, is not behind China's.

 

[xman]

hey, is it confirmed that our main Cryogenic Motor ignited and worked normaly where as the malfunction was with Vernier Thrusters???

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

U idiot the Mahatma cried for both the Hindus and Muslims.nd dont u dare talk abt the father of my nation which wil lead me to talk abt urs..do u want that situation..?

Was talking about Ms.Gandi.

we ran out of coffins because we accepeted our warriors to be our martyrs..not like u even denying ur soldiers the basic dignity of recognising them to be pakistanis(remember Kargil?).So STFU.

Lots of dead wariors i guess
lol if we had denied thousands of soldiers then why wasnt there protests?why didnt the thousands of familys ask for the bodies?
retard dont go on some weak fags statements see the fukin reality.
Also who the f..k are u?Dont talk to me like im ur father.And go STFU.Faggot

wat were the three countries..?India,USSR nd then..?
Were not America providing u the necessary hardware.So u mean to say that all those F104 s ,F 86 were indigenously manufactured by u..?

Who was supplying mig 21s?where were bengladeshi?We they sitting at there homes while a illequiped and supply starved soldiers were gifting ghosts?F 86 was never manufactured by pakistan u dumb twit.
How many F104s were we having?U twerp thts why u lost air battles.

Who fought like men sending those tribal B***s in 48..?Y u didnt send in ur regular army to fight like men..?
nd IF u lost to women then who are u..? worthless than even women..?huh

Control ur fuking tongue u b....d we have people from FATA on this forum also u fukwit.
How many oridance factories did u have?industries?wat about ur army?
U dumb twit do u know who was commanding it ? faggot do u even know the whole population of pakistan and number of soldiers we had at the time?U bas...ds...still ur worthless women failed?
Also 71 was not a fight FACE ON FACE it was indians,Bengladeshis supported by russia...dumbo see the history.

Note+Other people no offence continue ur discussion...this retard need some reality check

 

[nakodo]

Learning from failure

http://www.hindu.com/2010/04/17/stories/2010041754901200.htm

It is almost a rite of passage that an Indian launch vehicle runs into trouble in its first flight. The country's very first attempt to launch a satellite failed in August 1979 when the SLV-3 rocket went out of control and ended up in the Bay of Bengal. A year later, those problems were sorted out and the rocket put a 35-kg Rohini satellite into orbit. The Indian Space Research Organisation had to cope with two successive failures with the Augmented Satellite Launch Vehicle (ASLV) before its third flight in 1992 went smoothly. In 1993, a series of technical shortcomings coalesced and the first flight of the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) ended in failure. Those issues were swiftly resolved and the PSLV has become known for its ability to carry out a wide range of missions with rugged reliability. The first launch of the Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle (GSLV) nine years ago, using a Russian-made cryogenic upper stage, was, to some extent, the exception. Although the GSAT-1 satellite was put into orbit, a small under-performance of the cryogenic stage meant that it was not the planned orbit. Attempts to move the satellite using its own thrusters were not successful and the satellite was ultimately abandoned.

Despite such a history, the failure of Thursday's GSLV launch with the country's first indigenous cryogenic engine and stage came as a bolt from the blue. The engine and later the full stage have gone through extensive testing on the ground in the course of their development. Moreover, the actual engine that flew on the GSLV was test-fired on the ground for 200 seconds. Exhaustive reviews by experts of the cryogenic stage and the rocket were completed before the GSLV was cleared for launch. After the unsuccessful flight, the ISRO chairman, K. Radhakrishnan, initially suggested that two small cryogenic steering engines, which swivel to maintain the rocket's orientation, might have malfunctioned. Later, however, he indicated that the main cryogenic engine itself might not have ignited. In such a complex system as the cryogenic stage, even a small defect that escapes attention is sufficient to doom the flight. But the space agency would be unwise to confine its analysis to problems encountered with the indigenous cryogenic stage. This is an opportunity for a thorough examination of the entire GSLV rocket and its past five flights. There have, for instance, been problems with the Vikas liquid-propellant engine in previous flights. The procedures for the manufacture, assembly, and pre-flight testing of all liquid propellant engines and stages need particular attention. A comprehensive review would best ensure the future reliability of the GSLV.

 

[White Dove]

While deleting other post mods go blind on some ppl ....such hypocrites