Lashkar-i-Jhangvi denies hand in Afghan blast

[Sher Malang]

Can you respond to Post # 44 & 52 please? If you aren't capable of doing that, please let me know. Thanks.

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The funny thing is, when we prove Afghan terrorism inside Pakistan, we actually arrest Afghan citizens, show their faces on TV, give out their information (their names, family information, what city in Afghanistan they come from), as well as many other things. But for Afghanistan, an unverified phone call is enough for them & their president. Goes to show the state of their country.

The statements coming from militants cannot be relied by themselves, because these people lie all the time. You cannot pick & choose what you like, which you're doing here right now.

It's simple than why you created this thread? aren't you doing the same here in this thread? is it enough to prove your confusion in this topic?

 

[53fd]

It's simple than why you created this thread? are you doing the same here in this thread? is it enough to prove your confusion in this topic?

I can create any damn thread I want, & if you have a problem with it, you don't need to respond here.

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The statements coming from militants cannot be relied by themselves, because these people lie all the time. You cannot pick & choose what you like, which you're doing here right now.

It's simple than why you created this thread? aren't you doing the same here in this thread? is it enough to prove your confusion in this topic?

Btw, you still didn't respond to the question I posed to you on my post.

Can you respond to Post # 44 & 52 please? If you aren't capable of doing that, please let me know. Thanks.

 

[KS]

Because the statements coming from militants cannot be relied by themselves, because these people lie all the time. You cannot pick & choose what you like, which you're doing here right now.

The rest you sprout is just baseless propaganda with no evidence to back it up.

So my question - why this thread in the first place based on "unreliable" calls ? You just started the thread as if you were vindicated by the second call ,got caught and now lying through your teeth.

I can create any damn thread I want, & if you have a problem with it, you don't need to respond here.

LOL so you will spam the forum - actually you did not spam - you thought you were vindicated by the second caller and wanted to say that..but now got caught in your own words

You are damn confused Bilal, and you have become an obsessive poster

 

[53fd]

The statements coming from militants cannot be relied by themselves, because these people lie all the time. You cannot pick & choose what you like, which you're doing here right now.

It's simple than why you created this thread? aren't you doing the same here in this thread? is it enough to prove your confusion in this topic?

I have no confusion on the topic, I have already told you that "the statements coming from militants cannot be relied by themselves, because these people lie all the time." So the confusion is from your side, because I am asking you for the proof Karzai has that the attacks were planned in Pakistan.

 

[Zarvan]

These Bomb Blasts are most probably the work of third party which want to damage the al ready very much damaged relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan because Jhangvi don't have even much support in Pakistan now how on earth can they carry out attacks in Afghanistan

 

[KS]

The Taliban in Afghanistan have denied it, & the LeJ al Almi has denied it too.

So these are lies too ?

 

[53fd]

So my question - why this thread in the first place based on "unreliable" calls ? You just started the thread as if you were vindicated by the second call ,got caught and now lying through your teeth.

Because the point is, that regardless of what militant group it is, whether it is the Taliban or anyone else, they have known to be lying many times in the past & present, so the statements coming from militants cannot be relied by themselves, regardless of the claims they make. Period.

I created this thread because I wanted to ask Pakistan-haters like Sher Malang if he or his puppet president had any substantive evidence proving that the attacks were planned on Pakistani soil. Simple.

 

[Sher Malang]

Btw, you still didn't respond to the question I posed to you on my post.

Another confusion of you, aren't #44 and #52 have the same argument not a question? Didn't I replied to your argument #44/52 in #61?

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Because the point is, that regardless of what militant group it is, whether it is the Taliban or anyone else, they have known to be lying many times in the past & present, so the statements coming from militants cannot be relied by themselves, regardless of the claims they make. Period.

I created this thread because I wanted to ask Pakistan-haters like Sher Malang if he or his puppet president had any substantive evidence proving that the attacks were planned on Pakistani soil. Simple.

What does Lashkar-e-Jhangvi has to do with Pakistani 'haters'? now you are giving them authenticity by your self that they belongs to you!

 

[53fd]

What does Lashkar-e-Jhangvi has to do with Pakistani 'haters'? now you are giving them authenticity by your self that they belongs to you!

When even the Western media that you love reports that the phone call has not been verified for its authenticity, why are you claiming conclusively that it was indeed the LeJ that made the call? Even if they did make the call, militants regardless of the groups they belong to have been shown to be lying many times. I'm talking about two separate circumstances. There are many claims made by the Taliban about the US, India, & Afghan government that I am sure you do not agree with. Then there are many statements coming out of the Taliban that deny anything to do with Pakistan, which you don't agree with either. No need to pick & choose the statements to satisfy your hatred for Pakistan.

I've clearly said that the statements coming out from militants (regardless of the group) are meaningless. I created this thread because I wanted to ask Pakistan-haters like yourself if you or your puppet president had any substantive evidence proving that the attacks were planned on Pakistani soil. Simple.

I'm not sure if you're familiar with this word: validation. IT people like Karan might know it. The phone call cannot be used as (standalone) evidence, it can be used to 'validate' the evidence. But unfortunately, you & your puppet president have no evidence that shows the attacks were planned on Pakistani soil.

 

[JayAtl]

I don't get why you guys are debating Bilalhaider here anymore. He has made clear that terrorists words mean more to him than US or Afghan's ( and tried to move slightly away when it was brought to his attention in later posts). But this initial gut check and claim over and over again was- If they said they did not do it- then he takes them at their word.

But wait--- when the same terrorists say that the ISI is behind funding, supporting, promoting terrorism in Afghanistan and India in a BBC documentary---- he suddenly forgets his " terrorist's said it -it must be true" stance.

making hero's out of terrorists...when convenient

 

[53fd]

He has made clear that terrorists words mean more to him than US or Afghan's

No actually, I said that the words of terrorists, regardless of what group they are or what they say, have no credibility & cannot be relied on. Just like the Taliban say they won't target innocent civilians but they do, goes to show that their words have no value.

But this initial gut check and claim over and over again was- If they said they did not do it- then he takes them at their word.

Wrong. Unlike Bharatis like you, there are many claims made by the Taliban about the US, India, & Afghan government that I am sure you do not agree with. Then there are many statements coming out of the Taliban that deny anything to do with Pakistan, which you don't agree with either. No need to pick & choose their statements to satisfy your hatred for Pakistan.

 

[W.11]

You are on high drugs! the phone call was made from inside Pakistan to a Pakistan news paper!

Rabbani incident is totally different from this one.

tell me one think sher malang, do you afghanis have anything other then afghan drugs to survive on??, how can a barbarian afghan survive without food, shelter which we give you??

 

[JayAtl]

No actually, I said that the words of terrorists, regardless of what group they are or what they say, have no credibility & cannot be relied on. Just like the Taliban say they won't target innocent civilians but they do, goes to show that their words have no value.



Wrong. Unlike Bharatis like you, there are many claims made by the Taliban about the US, India, & Afghan government that I am sure you do not agree with. Then there are many statements coming out of the Taliban that deny anything to do with Pakistan, which you don't agree with either. No need to pick & choose their statements to satisfy your hatred for Pakistan.

your first post , the very post shows you claiming that the terrorist said they did not do it- so you believe it!

Bharati's like me? come on Bilal- i know you know I'm American.. you know the country you always wish ill upon, the soldiers whose deaths you secretly support over your hero's aka terrorist. yeah yeah we know you call it ' dissent' and lastly- nobody hates pakistan, we americans just don't want to die from terrorists within..is that too much to ask?

 

[53fd]

your first post , the very post shows you claiming that the terrorist said they did not do it- so you believe it!

No, I believe the Western (American) reports that admitted that the first phone call for not verified for authenticity. Many Western media outlets did not even report the first phone call incident.

 

[JayAtl]

No, I believe the Western (American) reports that admitted that the first phone call for not verified for authenticity. Many Western media outlets did not even report the first phone call incident.

oh the duplicity! - but conveniently don't believe American reports that overwhelmingly show that Pakistan supports terrorists? making hero's out of terorrist when it suits you- is what even musharaff said was a trait.