Largest hydropower dam in Turkey powers up first turbine

[Bismarck]

Largest hydropower dam in Turkey powers up first turbine

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Turkey's newly built Hydroelectric Power Plant Dam in southeastern Turkey is expected to contribute over $413M to the country's economy.

This aerial image shows the Ilisu Dam, one of the largest hydropower projects in Turkey, May 18, 2020. ( AA )
Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan inaugurated the country's largest hydropower dam in the southeast of the country.

The first of six turbines were powered up on Tuesday at the ceremony, which Erdogan attended via videoconference.

“The wind of peace, brotherhood and prosperity of Ilisu Dam will be spread in waves in the region by centuries,” Erdogan said on Tuesday.

Built as an inlet on the Tigris River, the dam aims to provide power to 1.3 million homes and also serve as an irrigation outlet to thousands of farmers.

The dam cost around $2 billion to build and will provide jobs for 7,000 workers.

Erdogan said Turkey is revolutionising renewable energy as it has built 585 more dams since 2002.

“We plan to launch 403 more facilities in 2020,” he added.

The dam is expected to produce around 3,800 gigawatts of power per year, while the onsite power station will have a holding capacity of 1,200 megawatts.

"By discharging the collected water in Ilisu Dam to the soon-to-be-built Cizre Dam in Turkey's southeastern region, we will be able to produce 1.1 billion kilowatt-hours of energy and irrigate around 766,000 hectares of land," Erdogan said.

https://www.trtworld.com/turkey/largest-hydropower-dam-in-turkey-powers-up-first-turbine-36450

 

[Bismarck]

I think it’s time for Turkey to create a “Green Party”.

 

[xenon54 out]

I think it’s time for Turkey to create a “Green Party”.

Naah, they would even block a renewable energy like hydro power while looking for the next socket to charge their phones.

 

[azyr]

Hydro power is one of the worst "green" energy solutions. It fucks up the natural structure of the region irreversibly and also has a set timeframe to operate on in which after it becomes obselete.
Nuclear is clearly the best, but with so much misinformation about the technology it's a very hard sell to the public and an immense jumping point to any opposition parties in given country.
So that leaves wind and solar. While solar is more promising, because of the materials needed to produce the panels, it's not nearly as clean as wind.
So all in all I would've preferred heavy investment in wind farms instead of these huge dams.
Oh well, in the short to mid term these will actually help us out, so it's not all bad.

 

[aziqbal]

South Korea, Iran and Turkey have a lot of dams so many dams

in comparison Pakistan has nothing compared to Iran and Turkey

Pakistan needs more dams

but then Pakistan also has plenty of nuclear power stations

but then decommissioning costs run into billions and you still have the problem with the waste

for me solar and wind is way forward

 

[KingWest]

Hydro power is one of the worst "green" energy solutions. It fucks up the natural structure of the region irreversibly and also has a set timeframe to operate on in which after it becomes obselete.
Nuclear is clearly the best, but with so much misinformation about the technology it's a very hard sell to the public and an immense jumping point to any opposition parties in given country.
So that leaves wind and solar. While solar is more promising, because of the materials needed to produce the panels, it's not nearly as clean as wind.
So all in all I would've preferred heavy investment in wind farms instead of these huge dams.
Oh well, in the short to mid term these will actually help us out, so it's not all bad.

Actually, hydro power is the best of green energy solutions (a part from nuclear) in my opinion. It has a constant output. Cant be influenced by sun or wind etc. And is thus less dependent on weather symptoms. If there is no need for electricity, then the sluice gates can also be closed for stopping the generation of electricity. Thus energy can be produced when needed with a dam in times when the demand for electricity is high.The buildup of water inside lake means that the energy can be stored when needed and also when water is released for producing the electricity. Dams are so designed by well-qualified engineers to span many of the decades and have a way higher life span than solar or wind.

Secondly, it helps farmers with irrigation systems. It helps to control the water in our own country, so it benefits the farmers etc immensely. Dams can also help in preventing floods and preventing famines (since they can be used to cultivate fish, and thus be used as a food source). Dams can provide irrigation water to lower areas, provide drinking water in remote areas. Dams can also be used for water sports or even as other forms of pleasurable activities. Few dams are for instance also a major touristic attraction.

With global warming, being able to control your water supply more effectively (thus with dams) is a gigantic plus.

Strategically, I can argue that hydro is also the best energy source for Turkey since you can use it to control downriver water supply. We have Iraq and Syria by their balls because of our dams.
This was a really short explanation, I can provide a more in depth one if you require.
I can argue that hydro is better than nuclear since it is can be used in more ways than for pure energy. Yes yes, nucleair can be used to make the A-bomb, however this is still really difficult to do covertly. Meanwhile, the effects of hydra power can be used more powerfully without the political backslash. No nations will sanction Turkey because we want to make a dam to control neighbouring countries. If you try to make an A-bomb all hell will break lose, and you almost cant make an A-bomb secretly.

Edit: best would be to have a diversified green energy portfolio though. Our country is blessed with sunshine and wind and the other natural elements. Imagine all koys having a wind turbine. That would be feasible from what Ive seen. I agree with you in the sence that we should invest more in wind. But it shoudnt be a trade off in my opinion. We need to do it simultaneously.

 

[KAL-EL]

Impressive..

 

[azyr]

Actually, hydro power is the best of green energy solutions (a part from nuclear) in my opinion. It has a constant output. Cant be influenced by sun or wind etc. And is thus less dependent on weather symptoms. If there is no need for electricity, then the sluice gates can also be closed for stopping the generation of electricity. Thus energy can be produced when needed with a dam in times when the demand for electricity is high.The buildup of water inside lake means that the energy can be stored when needed and also when water is released for producing the electricity. Dams are so designed by well-qualified engineers to span many of the decades and have a way higher life span than solar or wind.

Secondly, it helps farmers with irrigation systems. It helps to control the water in our own country, so it benefits the farmers etc immensely. Dams can also help in preventing floods and preventing famines (since they can be used to cultivate fish, and thus be used as a food source). Dams can provide irrigation water to lower areas, provide drinking water in remote areas. Dams can also be used for water sports or even as other forms of pleasurable activities. Few dams are for instance also a major touristic attraction.

With global warming, being able to control your water supply more effectively (thus with dams) is a gigantic plus.

Strategically, I can argue that hydro is also the best energy source for Turkey since you can use it to control downriver water supply. We have Iraq and Syria by their balls because of our dams.
This was a really short explanation, I can provide a more in depth one if you require.
I can argue that hydro is better than nuclear since it is can be used in more ways than for pure energy. Yes yes, nucleair can be used to make the A-bomb, however this is still really difficult to do covertly. Meanwhile, the effects of hydra power can be used more powerfully without the political backslash. No nations will sanction Turkey because we want to make a dam to control neighbouring countries. If you try to make an A-bomb all hell will break lose, and you almost cant make an A-bomb secretly.

Edit: best would be to have a diversified green energy portfolio though. Our country is blessed with sunshine and wind and the other natural elements. Imagine all koys having a wind turbine. That would be feasible from what Ive seen. I agree with you in the sence that we should invest more in wind. But it shoudnt be a trade off in my opinion. We need to do it simultaneously.

While I agree with all of this, it still doesn't negate the fact that dams do huge damage to the area they're built on. The water output also changes for a long time until they fill up, and even after that it mostly is a lesser flowing river which fucks things up downriver.

My major concern is that they fill up with dirt in time and after a while they're just done. I'm from Rize and the 500 or so HES project really messed our beautiful habitats here - so I might be overtly biased. But then again doing some research on them yielded the above facts on them too, so there's that.

 

[xenon54 out]

Hydro power is one of the worst "green" energy solutions. It fucks up the natural structure of the region irreversibly and also has a set timeframe to operate on in which after it becomes obselete.
Nuclear is clearly the best, but with so much misinformation about the technology it's a very hard sell to the public and an immense jumping point to any opposition parties in given country.
So that leaves wind and solar. While solar is more promising, because of the materials needed to produce the panels, it's not nearly as clean as wind.
So all in all I would've preferred heavy investment in wind farms instead of these huge dams.
Oh well, in the short to mid term these will actually help us out, so it's not all bad.

Nuclear power isnt renewable, also the waste problem needs to be solved properly which is also expensive.
Other renewable energies are not sufficient yet so hydro is necessary right now till fusion becomes comercially awailable.

 

[Bismarck]

Actually, hydro power is the best of green energy solutions (a part from nuclear) in my opinion. It has a constant output. Cant be influenced by sun or wind etc. And is thus less dependent on weather symptoms. If there is no need for electricity, then the sluice gates can also be closed for stopping the generation of electricity. Thus energy can be produced when needed with a dam in times when the demand for electricity is high.The buildup of water inside lake means that the energy can be stored when needed and also when water is released for producing the electricity. Dams are so designed by well-qualified engineers to span many of the decades and have a way higher life span than solar or wind.

Secondly, it helps farmers with irrigation systems. It helps to control the water in our own country, so it benefits the farmers etc immensely. Dams can also help in preventing floods and preventing famines (since they can be used to cultivate fish, and thus be used as a food source). Dams can provide irrigation water to lower areas, provide drinking water in remote areas. Dams can also be used for water sports or even as other forms of pleasurable activities. Few dams are for instance also a major touristic attraction.

With global warming, being able to control your water supply more effectively (thus with dams) is a gigantic plus.

Strategically, I can argue that hydro is also the best energy source for Turkey since you can use it to control downriver water supply. We have Iraq and Syria by their balls because of our dams.
This was a really short explanation, I can provide a more in depth one if you require.
I can argue that hydro is better than nuclear since it is can be used in more ways than for pure energy. Yes yes, nucleair can be used to make the A-bomb, however this is still really difficult to do covertly. Meanwhile, the effects of hydra power can be used more powerfully without the political backslash. No nations will sanction Turkey because we want to make a dam to control neighbouring countries. If you try to make an A-bomb all hell will break lose, and you almost cant make an A-bomb secretly.

Edit: best would be to have a diversified green energy portfolio though. Our country is blessed with sunshine and wind and the other natural elements. Imagine all koys having a wind turbine. That would be feasible from what Ive seen. I agree with you in the sence that we should invest more in wind. But it shoudnt be a trade off in my opinion. We need to do it simultaneously.

But rainfall.

 

[what]

Guys have you not seen the summers of the last few years or the start of this one? Those reservoirs will have a significantly lower output in the summer months with the climate change. Still a good option though.

A good energy mix is the key. But one step at a time.

 

[UkroTurk]

As demand for electricity has fallen, many utilities have cut back on coal first, because it is more expensive than gas, wind and solar. In the EU imports of coal for thermal power plants plunged by almost two-thirds in recent months to reach lows not seen in 30 years. The consequences have been felt around the world as well.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

No nations will sanction Turkey because we want to make a dam to control neighbouring countries.

While I agree with all of these, remember that it can cause huge political clusterfucks as well
https://insamer.com/tr/ortadogu-su-krizi-ve-turkiye_697.html

For example, take a look at this recent crisis:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/nile-river-of-discord-between-egypt-and-ethiopia/1845930

Maybe the international pressure won't be as high as building a nuclear power plant, but it can still cause major problems...

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Guys have you not seen the summers of the last few years or the start of this one? Those reservoirs will have a significantly lower output in the summer months with the climate change. Still a good option though.

A good energy mix is the key. But one step at a time.

Actually, precipitation in Turkey is shifting from N to S/SE Turkey.

 

[Timur]

Hydro power is one of the worst "green" energy solutions. It fucks up the natural structure of the region irreversibly and also has a set timeframe to operate on in which after it becomes obselete.
Nuclear is clearly the best, but with so much misinformation about the technology it's a very hard sell to the public and an immense jumping point to any opposition parties in given country.
So that leaves wind and solar. While solar is more promising, because of the materials needed to produce the panels, it's not nearly as clean as wind.
So all in all I would've preferred heavy investment in wind farms instead of these huge dams.
Oh well, in the short to mid term these will actually help us out, so it's not all bad.

hydropower is good for us we should have as much as we can build:

large scale hydropower can change the climate-- you know more water heats up the climate keeps being more stable and the air gets more moisture..
in same way use the water for your plants..

and also it shows the country as more green energy user because it just generates more power than just solar or wind energy - I do not know but the huge water arsenals cant it be used for locals to fishing?

solar panels wont give much energy and at night it wont work..
we may also have more solar poer towers..

wind energy is also not as clean as it seems to be.. it disturbes animals, birds and so on.. it has one disatvantage because it cant be stored.. sometimes you need more energy because of the industry is using more and sometimes you dont need much because there is no one in need energy so you cut of some of them and they are standing still and waiting.. there are consepts of not directly creating energy but to pump up air into a storage or an old salt mine and use it later for turbines or just to create hydrogen from the energy wich is too much generated and not being used.. I would prefer on of these soulutions because currently its not as effective as it can be..

the best thing is using solar wind and hydropower in combination...
I would like to have solar power in cities specially in big cities in larger scale because it could help to change a little bit the climate (reflecting the sun light)

and if there would be small windfarms on buildings it could further help us to decentralize the energy production..

so my opinion is diversifying our energy industry is good.. I have nothing against nuclear energy and would say we need at least 4-6 power plants in turkey.. the only thing that has to leave our soil are cole and gas energy plants its pure wasting of recources..