Lal Masjid’s expansionism, militant links alarms agencies

[VCheng]

Some might even say that it isn't possible any longer to solve this problem, not at least with the current soft and weak mindset. How would you lessen the naivety of people seriously? I am not aware of any noo-tropic which makes people less stupid.............

Yes, there is. It is called "edumacation". Or something like that. But it takes 50 years to have its effects, so it is too late for that.

 

[Secur]

Yes, there is. It is called "edumacation". Or something like that. But it takes 50 years to have its effects, so it is too late for that.

You know a discussion has effectively come to an end, when...

 

[VCheng]

You know a discussion has effectively come to an end, when...

If it is too late for education, a few million liters of blood spilled freely might just do the trick.

 

[Secur]

If it is too late for education, a few million liters of blood spilled freely might just do the trick.

Let me die with the Phillistines? The Samson option so to speak?

 

[OTTOMAN]

Pakistan hai, sab chalta hai. (Its Pakistan, everything/anything goes) The answer you seek have no real answers, you already know it, even the people know it somewhere deep inside. Suddenly the terrorism is being funded from inside and the terrorists aren't so foreign, this isn't new, its just coming to light now and it might even be too late.

Than what's the point in WoT? or advocating Islam as the real culprit?

No my dear... there has to be answers and first would be those, who started fitna i.e. allegations without evidence and contrary to ground reality and feedback from front lines.

 

[Secur]

Than what's the point in WoT? or advocating Islam as the real culprit?

No my dear... there has to be answers and first would be those, who started fitna i.e. allegations without evidence and contrary to ground reality and feedback from front lines.

There's no real point when half of your nation convinced that the righteous Taliban have come to save the day and they are being fought by infidel Pakistan army, all in a war that isn't ours. You have the answers, the influentials support to the religious extremist groups and the terrorists surviving/getting funded by money from inside isn't a secret and not exactly new. Even Ch.Nisar wasn't shy to point out that the "money from four Muslim countries" (most obvious reference to the Oil Sheikhs) was being used for nefarious purposes, again something that many have heard from time to time. You have a few evidence right on the thread but of course its the mode of operation of nation-in-decline that they choose to find a boogeyman or look to pass blame on someone else, rather than introspecting.

 

[tarrar]

Opening of more madressas in Pakistan is a sign of failed & corrupt Govt. who are unable to control this sh!t. Fake Mullah burqa & his band of jabronis are a valid threat to Pakistan & they have gain strengthen thanks to first PPP's corrupt & treacherous rule & now by PML-N's corrupt & treachery time of rule. The fact & the truth is Pakistan does not need democracy as it is massively corrupt & is only causing huge problems for Pakistan, only. Pakistan today needs only Military rule as all the corrupt politicians & rented terrorists will not make any attempts to face the PA head on, so therefore they will only try to escape Pakistan.

PA & Intel agencies knows all the location of rented terrorists but friends of rented terrorists (politicians, judges, NGO's, lawyers, journalist & media) are huge obstacle in the way of Pakistan & PA's total success.

 

[Secur]

PA & Intel agencies knows all the location of rented terrorists but friends of rented terrorists (politicians, judges, NGO's, lawyers, journalist & media) are huge obstacle in the way of Pakistan & PA's total success.

Your boys too have stakes with these people, please dont pass all blame to civvies.

 

[Imran Khan]

Our agencies have no balls otherwise guy was dead long before

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Lt.Col retired at least his step-brother is...that guy has best spot in bahria town for his real estate agency plus opened a restaurant on the most prime location here

actually 2 of his brothers retired from the army.. one major (deceased i think) . the other a lt col..

The major you have in mind is not his brother.... whereas MR is not rich due to MES, actually he was real poor, as long he was a contractor of MES.
Stop, disclosing what you don't know for real.

His brothers name was major (retired) Tariq (late)... as for him being a MES contractor .. he wasnt "really" poor.. not did he become rich due to tht.. but due to luck ...

 

[Jaanbaz]

which opened case against Musharraf for his crimes against red mosque militants.

Long live Pak army for killing red mosque terrorists. Inshallah may more drone strikes starget your brethren in Tribal areas.

 

[OTTOMAN]

There's no real point when half of your nation convinced that the righteous Taliban have come to save the day and they are being fought by infidel Pakistan army, all in a war that isn't ours. You have the answers, the influentials support to the religious extremist groups and the terrorists surviving/getting funded by money from inside isn't a secret and not exactly new. Even Ch.Nisar wasn't shy to point out that the "money from four Muslim countries" (most obvious reference to the Oil Sheikhs) was being used for nefarious purposes, again something that many have heard from time to time. You have a few evidence right on the thread but of course its the mode of operation of nation-in-decline that they choose to find a boogeyman or look to pass blame on someone else, rather than introspecting.

your reply is totally out of context and is a debate which has been countered million times on this forum.

actually 2 of his brothers retired from the army.. one major (deceased i think) . the other a lt col..



His brothers name was major (retired) Tariq (late)... as for him being a MES contractor .. he wasnt "really" poor.. not did he become rich due to tht.. but due to luck ...

Than you have totally different major, what i thought you have in mind... however you agree to the fact that he was not rich, while being a small contractor of MES, which possibly cannot make him rich!
Therefore, people should stop blaming army for his riches.
He became rich, with his shrewdness, he exploited the title 'Bahria' when DHA became a secure name, in midst of Qabz Groups ran by rulers of Pakistan and he surfaced as an alternate and competitor to DHA.
Civil Govt. tried best to nab him through NAB but somehow he survived, and during the rule of Musharraf he became real rich, like many other Pakistanis.
All thanks to foreign remittance from middleast.

 

[Secur]

your reply is totally out of context and is a debate which has been countered million times on this forum.

You ask the point of the war on terror, I say there's no point if the masses aren't onboard. Please enlighten me, what answers are you looking for? What exactly has been countered a million times on this forum? Domestic manpower, funding and provision of resources? Because as of yet, I am yet to see the Govt of Pakistan blame any foreign country for this menace of religious terrorism.

 

[OTTOMAN]

Your boys too have stakes with these people, please dont pass all blame to civvies.

All blame rest with those, who have no stakes in Pakistan.

 

[Secur]

All blame rest with those, who have no stakes in Pakistan.

Genius, another one aimed at deflecting blame and avoiding responsibility, what ever helps people sleep at night!