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Lahore Police Academy crises over | One gunman, five collaborators arrested

doesnt look so terrorising without his gun and pants - does he ?:devil: I hope he gets special red chilli treatment during the interogation.

i feel pity, hope n pray this is the real guy, not one of our inncoent Afghani brother.
 
doesnt look so terrorising without his gun and pants - does he ?:devil: I hope he gets special red chilli treatment during the interogation.

I'm sure after seeing his pictures the master minds will make sure that all connection evidence to this man shall be destroyed.
Shame on media who is acting as a helping hand for the terrorists.
 
dig out the root cause, n solve it , Kashmire accroding to UN mandate, but u will never come to this state, blaming is tactic, n keeping the ball in our court

till then we r not frisnds
And what would Pakistan do with Kashmir if India "gave" it over to Pakistan tomorrow? (Yeah, I know a vote is supposed to take place.) Fall apart is my guess for today's Kashmiris probably want independence. If they fight for that and Pakistan tries to hold on, how could Pakistan possibly survive? How many times can Pakistan survive the same losing formula?
 
And what would Pakistan do with Kashmir if India "gave" it over to Pakistan tomorrow? (Yeah, I know a vote is supposed to take place.) Fall apart is my guess for today's Kashmiris probably want independence. If they fight for that and Pakistan tries to hold on, how could Pakistan possibly survive? How many times can Pakistan survive the same losing formula?

this is hypothetical, what will happen will only be seen in future. falling apart is ur apprehension only, a mental state can only be corrected by u.

in my post i said, according to UN manadate, which means a right to say and stay with whoever or independence if they want to embrace(we have no problem with that), we have alot of symapthy and why? Just read the history on partion of pakistan.

why dont u disclose of u being indian, disguised in US flag, a perfect relation these days:enjoy:
 
It's obvious! Afghans & maybe some organizations are being used by our enemies to do all these terrorist acts in Pakistan....india is always involved in all this i'm pretty sure that atleast the fundings are comming from the indian consulates in Afghanistan beside all this all of you noticed the poor indian attitude?? just read their foreign minister statements after the Lahore terrorist act! shame on india
 
Terrorists launched a coordinated attack today attacking Police stations in suicide bomb attacks across three districts in Afghanistan & Pakistan.

After initially wishing to carpet bomb Kabul, ethnic cleanse afghan refugees, and topple the afghan government we move to the often trod ground of wishing to target and close up Indian embassies and consulates around the world.

Which of the above things would not figure highly on the personal agenda of those who launched these coordinated attacks today, and over the past couple of months... we can but wonder.

These people have no home, no nation, and no religion. But they certainly have guns and bombs with which to attack all natural forces of the Rule of Law.

I can heartily recommend waiting until more official details surface from the Pakistan authorities and then again address some of these initial reactions.


No one is calling for an ethnic cleansing of Afghanis. We've been hosting Afghan refugees in our country for 3 decades now, its time for them to leave back to Afghanistan.

They have given nothing to Pakistan except terrorism, drug trafficking, ethnic tensions in our major cities, and so on. If they want to stay in Pakistan as guests they have to respect our nation and respect the laws of our nation. Most of them are very ungrateful they say awful things about Pakistan and Pakistanis openly. They are the ill-wishers of Pakistan and dont deserve to be in Pakistan.

Today in Pakistan we see one of our worse crisis in history, we have terrorism going on in our major cities that we've never seen before, we see people blowing themselves in Masjids that we've never seen before, we have food shortages that we've never seen before, our economy is suffering, we see ethnic rioting in Karachi, the economic hub of Pakistan.

Afghanis are to blame for all these things going on in Pakistan, maybe they have a foreign help but they play a major role in these crimes happening in our country. Pakistan has been kind enough and now we have to put Pakistan and the people of Pakistan first.

And if India cares so much about Afghanis, please take them into your country so these trouble-makers are out of our sight.
 
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say anything about occupation, did I? Nor do I doubt that widespread, sweet corruption exists throughout South Asia. It sounds like you are justifying your own role in it! NATO is switching to attacking the drug trade in Afghanistan, so Afghanistan is trying to clean up its act (despite Karzai). Will you make a personal effort, too? I doubt it. Hence, the cycle continues - but it won't be quite as easy with a smaller goad of terror to prod the hoi polloi with, wouldn't you say?

I brought up occupation and not you to make a point.

Pakistan is already making a much bigger effort than the Afghan government. The fact that we are facing attacks on such a regular basis means that those who are behind them are feeling some pressure.

Your condescending statement "Will you make a personal effort, too? I doubt it." wreaks of the arrogance that ticks off most Pakistanis. While everyone in the West cries over every single soldier lost in combat in Afghanistan, try digging up even a single, sympathetic story for the over 1300 KIAs on the Pakistan side anywhere in the western media. Our boys are fighting and dying in a war that is being propelled by the occupation of a country in our neighborhood. So please don't pass judgment on our efforts. Just in the last two years, Pakistanis have lost more in terms of blood than all of the others in and around Afghanistan. Over the past 8 years, Pakistan has lost more economically than most of the others in and around Afghanistan (barring the poor people of Afghanistan).

Please also get out of this judgmental mindset and realize that Pakistan will not open up 10 different fronts just because the west happens to lose some troops in Afghanistan. You go into Afghanistan to occupy it then you will take casualties and you will have to be patient about it instead of asking Pakistan to take all the blame and turn the country itself into a hell hole for its own citizens to further the interests of others.

Never in my life have I experienced the violence of the kind that is afflicting Pakistan now. We had militancy in the past as well, we have always had crackpots in the past as well, however right now the whole of the Pashtun belt is up in arms thanks to what is perceived to be an anti-Pashtun effort underway in Afghanistan. All of the fighting and the drug money in Afghanistan is fueling violence in Pakistan instead of the other way around. So lets not be so quick to jump the gun and blame Pakistan and GoP only.
 
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say anything about occupation, did I? Nor do I doubt that widespread, sweet corruption exists throughout South Asia. It sounds like you are justifying your own role in it! NATO is switching to attacking the drug trade in Afghanistan, so Afghanistan is trying to clean up its act (despite Karzai). Will you make a personal effort, too? I doubt it. Hence, the cycle continues - but it won't be quite as easy with a smaller goad of terror to prod the hoi polloi with, wouldn't you say?


What do you mean exactly by saying "will you make a personal effort, too?" i am getting quite tired of your rants, i corrected you last time on this issue and i am getting tired of having to repeat myself.

Listen here, it is the ordinary Jawan(Cop/Solider) giving his life in sacrifice for this GWOT, which we BTW never started. I really get vexed with people like yourself bring Afghanistan in Pakistani discussions and attempt to draw parallels.

Listen up chum, we all know that CIA installed the Taliban, then and all those other SOB's, once they had no further use your government decided to cut it's losses and mosey on out... Leaving us with 5 Million+ refugees and a instable nation 75Km from the provincial capital of NWFP.

It was not long ago when i remember the biggest challange we had in Law Enforcement was the odd organised gang of ruffians, or drug peddlers perhaps at a national level the MQM.

All this changed in a spate of 5/6 years... I have studied the TTP's of Taliban and other Jihadi groups, let me say one thing very clearly. The tactics being used by the Neo Taliban as i call them (are very Iraqi, the IED, Beheadding, K&R, public extortion).

The people we have captured time and time again have links to external sources, use external weaponse and in many cases have been found with sophisticated GPS, American MRE's and even Blackhawk tactical vests better then those our Elite Police use.

We all know the external powers working in Pakistan for their own selfish end, and the proof is in the pudding such as the recent seizure of over 300Kg of explosives manufactured by BDX limited.

Eitherway i do not want to go on any further, we have the Will and the Power to fight this war, we may not have started it, but we will see it through!

We will tend to our back yard, which is more then we can say for the US and "Afghanistan":

"Weak Kabul government have been unable to keep pace with an emboldened insurgency financed in part by a vast opium trade."-
AFP: Obama faces uphill struggle in Afghanistan

"There is no quick fix to this situation: even with the full support of the Pakistani government and military the border will stay out of control for years," Dorronsoro wrote this month. - AFP: Obama faces uphill struggle in Afghanistan

The NATO alliance and the Kabul government also are not ready to make concessions that might persuade the Taliban to put down their guns, he said.- AFP: Obama faces uphill struggle in Afghanistan
 
Once Pakistan is on the brink, those who spilled our blood will have wished they stayed far far away, our military has only so much patience. Sooner or later the root cause will have to be diagnosed and operated on.

I sense an inevitable conventional war in the region in the not too distant future. I wish everything is done to avoid it but there are some things that will be hard to ignore, and will get harder to ignore day by day, month by month, year by year.
 
i feel pity, hope n pray this is the real guy, not one of our inncoent Afghani brother.

If he's an Afghan I hope they nail him. Sick and tired of these Afghans carrying out suicide missions on Indian behalf. India too needs to be brought to justice. The Indians are hell bent on fuelling and propagating anti-Pakistan feelings across the border. Americans need to be shown the middle finger. The Yanks have deteriorated the security situation. Never have we before witnessed such carnage in this region. These Yanks are a curse and they have brought their evil to this part of the world. First they massacred Iraq and now they plan to spread their bloodshed in this region. Just disgusting creatures. I'm absolutely abhorred by these bloodthirsty savages. The Yanks have destroyed every last shred of the security situation within the region.
 
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If he's an Afghan I hope they nail him. Sick and tired of these Afghans carrying out suicide missions on Indian behalf. India too needs to be brought to justice. Americans need to be shown the middle finger. The Yanks have deteriorated the security situation. Never have we before witnessed such carnage in this region. These Yanks are a curse and they have brought their evil to this part of the world. First they massacred Iraq and now they plan to spread their bloodshed in this region. Just disgusting creatures. I'm absolutely abhorred by these people.

I understand that Pakistan is angry right now, but please don't let emotions get in the way of evidence.

The captured guy is Afghani, so most likely is Mehsud's man or someone allied. Major suspicion should be there. If it turns out that facts are otherwise and backed by someone else, Pakistan must uncover the evidence and ask for amends.
Blaming India and America before that just diverts attention from the most likely culprits. It is not just bad for India and US, but also for Pakistan since the real culprits then go scot-free (and enjoy public support).

As for America, I think Iraq war was stupid. That said, I support their involvement in Afghanistan since it is Al Qaeda that fired the first shot (9/11) and the Taliban support for them pretty much made it a declaration of war by them against US. United Nations supported US involvement in Afghanistan, so did the Pak government. Until they win the war, they can stay in Afghanistan. That is war, not terrorism - Uniformed soldiers fighting according to established rules of war. What Pakistan really should do is to fence up the borders tight and patrol it like they monitor the LoC.

Terrorists, no matter what cause they support must be stopped.No one should support them for whatever reasons. Ideological differences between nations must be solved diplomatically.
 
If he's an Afghan I hope they nail him. Sick and tired of these Afghans carrying out suicide missions on Indian behalf. India too needs to be brought to justice. The Indians are hell bent on fuelling and propagating anti-Pakistan feelings across the border. Americans need to be shown the middle finger. The Yanks have deteriorated the security situation. Never have we before witnessed such carnage in this region. These Yanks are a curse and they have brought their evil to this part of the world. First they massacred Iraq and now they plan to spread their bloodshed in this region. Just disgusting creatures. I'm absolutely abhorred by these bloodthirsty savages.

As I said before kick out the Afghani refugges out and then build a huge wall on the Pak-Afghan border. All the ill-wishers of Pakistan have made their prescence in Afghanistan. Building a wall on the Pak-Afghan border and kicking Afghan refugees back to their country should be made a priority of Pakistan.
 
As I said before kick out the Afghani refugges out and then build a huge wall on the Pak-Afghan border. All the ill-wishers of Pakistan have made their prescence in Afghanistan. Building a wall on the Pak-Afghan border and kicking Afghan refugees back to their country should be made a priority of Pakistan.

Spot on brother. I'm just up to my stomach with these Afghans. They have deteriorated the security situation in the once peaceful NWFP. NWFP was the peaceful heaven of Pakistan. We need to restore the peaceful era. An absolute must! Security situation can only be improved if we build a fence and mine the most vulnerable parts of the border. In addition, we need UCAVs for surveillance etc. This terror is most certainly being imported from the other side of the border. The refugees need to be repatriated immediately. I'm just sick and tired of the phony brotherhood BS. I'm a Pukhtoon too, but I've just had enough of these Afghans. All these lame excuses aren't helping the cause either. It's time to take some solid action. You either take drastic measures to reinstall law and order or face such heinous terror.
 
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As I said before kick out the Afghani refugges out and then build a huge wall on the Pak-Afghan border. All the ill-wishers of Pakistan have made their prescence in Afghanistan. Building a wall on the Pak-Afghan border and kicking Afghan refugees back to their country should be made a priority of Pakistan.

Interesting solution but how would you find guys who are living in other parts of Pakistan. It's going to be a nightmare for the GOP's agencies. This could lead to even more suicide bombings or more of these kind of attacks.
 
Interesting solution but how would you find guys who are living in other parts of Pakistan. It's going to be a nightmare for the GOP's agencies. This could lead to even more suicide bombings or more of these kind of attacks.

Afghan refugees have made their way in all the four provinces of Pakistan. They are not just in NWFP anymore, you'll see them in Punjab and Sindh also causing so much trouble for Pakistan.

Read my post above, they have cause a lot of problems in Pakistan. Maybe they are not the only ones behind these crimes but they play a major role and once they are gone it'll be better for Pakistan. We've caught Afghan nationals in today's incident in Lahore.

And if India cares so much about Afghanis, why doesn't your country host millions of them?
 

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