Lahore now the cleanest big city in Pakistan, and greener too. New imagery here!!

[Mr.Nair]

China has about 22,000 Kms of high speed railway, average speed here is above 220 km/hr, India has none, not a single km of high speed Railway.


Pakistan has about 2000 kms of Motorways, India has none, not a single km of Motorway. Engineering, quality of construction is different in Motorways and expressways.

Motorways has to come up with certain highway design specifications. India has expressways but their total length is not much, a 160 km patch of expressway between Mumbai and Pune, A small road between Delhi and Noida, a few more...not comparable to Motorway system of Pakistan.




Your Obsession with five star hotels....


Check the 5 star hotels in Lahore, as this thread was about Lahore, many at the final completion stage.


Starting with new hotels coming up in Lahore

Hyatt Lahore a large 400 rooms plus hotel...

Hyatt Lahore and Serena hotel.

Serena Lahore is in finishing stage, front, Hyatt in the background

Unicorn Prestige hotel at Lahore airport, now completed.

Nishat hotel, a boutique hotel 5 star,

Nishat hotel interior

Emporium Mall Lahore, completed, will have a 5 star hotel in one of the wing.

Mall interior, can be searched further, bigger than Lulu mall Chennai.

Nishat hotel 5 star in the taller wing.

India is a country densely populated and long distance travel people prefer by trains and flights(upper middle classes and rich).This is also a major reason we don't have concept of Expressway for past decade instead highway.

The NASA image proof of how vast Indian road networks(from east to west and north to south),compared to Punjab and single stretch road through indus river of pakistan.

Look at one state of India and its road network coverages...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_highways_in_Gujarat

A small state like kerala has 1811 kms of Highways(population density much higher and geography difficult to make very wide roads) and having 4341 Kms of state highways and major district roads of 27,469 Kms
Can you imagine a small state having 31,811 Kms of road networks(Big and small) !

India has a road network of over 5,472,144 kilometres (3,400,233 mi) as on 31 March 2015, the second largest road network in the world(Big and small)

So if you consider this much large network,maintaining the existing one and also constructing new one is not an easy task.In fact india is adding 23 Kms of highways every single day.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Pearl Continental Lahore 5 star

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Hospitality Inn Lahore 5 Star?or maybe 4 star

Hospitality Inn

Park Plaza hotel Lahore

Luxus Grand hotel Lahore 5 star boutique

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Park Lane hotel lahore and Mall

Best western Lahore

Heritage Luxury suites Lahore

Maisonette Lahore

Hotel One Lahore 4 star

Residency hotel Lahore

Marvel Hotel...tons of hotels like these in Lahore

Herfa Inn Lahore

Royal Palm Golf course and hotel/club with residences on 130 acres

Lahore Gymkhana Club

Garrison Club and Golf course Lahore

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Lahore defence Raya Golf Club and residential houses

 

[BATMAN]

As it should be, may I remind you. If we wish to come out of security-state complex, then grooming politicians via elections is a must. There is no short-cut to this. If we had done things the right way, we would not be in this state after 70 years.

It shouldn't be like this, if we need lesson we should learn from rest of the developed world.
This country can run without politicians x100 better.
Its not only the corruption but the ineptness of the politicians which cost us more.

There is no such thing as grooming of politicians, this term is invented by bunch of corrupt people who's interests are linked being in parliament.

The level of grooming a person may require to take country forward is that he have experience and talent.
Who groomed Musharraf? He was merely running obsolete state machine, which was once built by British.

In today's world, to lead state, one needs vision of future and a plan to embrace that future, otherwise we end up importing mobile phones /tabs and claim to be in same future as Koreans, Japanese or Europeans.

Non of the politicians can tell you, what went wrong and what's his plan to fix. even if his generations were in politics.
So far this country is exisiting only because Army is regularly being called in for help and support in reactive manner.

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

india has motorways(expressways)

the thing you're calling an expressway is not comparable to our motorway,
it does not feel like a real highway, an example it does not have dedicated highway police. a Pakistani motorway police car.

second the Indian highways do not have protection from wildlife, OTOH Pakistani motorway has installed wire fences on the sides of the entirety of the motorways. e.g

, a decent portion of it is 4 lane , and some stretches are being converted to 6 lane .

Pakistan has almost 2000 km's of motorway and increasing, and not a single kilometer of it is 4 lanes all of it is 6 lanes with an extra emergency lane on both sides, and the future planned motorway from Karachi to Lahore is going to be a 8 lane motorway.

approaching-Yamuna01 by Mehar, on Flickr

approaching-Yamuna02 by Mehar, on Flickr

^^ i don't think this "expressway" is in any way inferior to a pakistani "motorway"

LOL you're comparing ^ this to this,

@SrNair @Pluralist @Taimoor Khan @gulli

 

[rishav]

the thing you're calling an expressway is not comparable to our motorway,
it does not feel like a real highway, an example it does not have dedicated highway police. a Pakistani motorway police car.
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second the Indian highways do not have protection from wildlife, OTOH Pakistani motorway has installed wire fences on the sides of the entirety of the motorways. e.g
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Pakistan has almost 2000 km's of motorway and increasing, and not a single kilometer of it is 4 lanes all of it is 6 lanes with an extra emergency lane on both sides, and the future planned motorway from Karachi to Lahore is going to be a 8 lane motorway.

LOL you're comparing ^ this to this,
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@SrNair @Pluralist @Taimoor Khan @gulli

there is protection from wildlife on the road in the photos i posted, you can see it .
and how are those pakistani motorways better than our expressways ? those are just better photos . Agra lucknow expressway , yamuna expressway also have shoulder lanes . Our highway network is much more than 2000kms , and some pakistani motorways are 4 lane + 2 shoulders .

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^NH9 , our national highways are not as bad as you guys think , they are certainly not the best but they get the job done

Taken on 20th Sept 2015

^^ NH 4 (465 km)

Chennai-Krishnagiri highway

 

[rishav]

^^ NH 544

 

[Mr.Nair]

the thing you're calling an expressway is not comparable to our motorway,
it does not feel like a real highway, an example it does not have dedicated highway police. a Pakistani motorway police car.
View attachment 424015 View attachment 424016
second the Indian highways do not have protection from wildlife, OTOH Pakistani motorway has installed wire fences on the sides of the entirety of the motorways. e.g
View attachment 424009 View attachment 424010

Pakistan has almost 2000 km's of motorway and increasing, and not a single kilometer of it is 4 lanes all of it is 6 lanes with an extra emergency lane on both sides, and the future planned motorway from Karachi to Lahore is going to be a 8 lane motorway.

LOL you're comparing ^ this to this,
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@SrNair @Pluralist @Taimoor Khan @gulli

As i pointed before, India is having very massive road network(Big and small,paved and unpaved)-5.4 million kms of road,Can you believe and maintaining that much of size can create many major economy countries to go bankrupt.

We have very wide network coverage of railway, which carries lot of cargo and so keep out of road, which the transportation of cargo by rail network in pakistan is very small.We never prefer use the term expressway instead like 6 lane highways etc..This is a road in Andhra but they never call as expressway...

This is a high way in Tamil nadu again termed as 'Highway'

The pakistan's road network to its size is very small, as the population is concentrated on particular areas like punjab,sindh and then areas like balochistan is having very less road density.Since a small size and small network, you can easily make 6 lane roads and call as expressway or whatever you want to name....

 

[Mr.Nair]

the thing you're calling an expressway is not comparable to our motorway,
it does not feel like a real highway, an example it does not have dedicated highway police. a Pakistani motorway police car.
View attachment 424015 View attachment 424016
second the Indian highways do not have protection from wildlife, OTOH Pakistani motorway has installed wire fences on the sides of the entirety of the motorways. e.g
View attachment 424009 View attachment 424010

Pakistan has almost 2000 km's of motorway and increasing, and not a single kilometer of it is 4 lanes all of it is 6 lanes with an extra emergency lane on both sides, and the future planned motorway from Karachi to Lahore is going to be a 8 lane motorway.

LOL you're comparing ^ this to this,
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@SrNair @Pluralist @Taimoor Khan @gulli

Do you think that India do not have 8 lane road, then here you go....

 

[N.Siddiqui]

We never prefer use the term expressway instead like 6 lane highways etc..This is a road in Andhra but they never call as expressway...

You cannot build a highway and start calling it Motorway, they have certain parameters and specifications to be met, engineering design, construction quality, the culverts and interchanges, shoulder and lane width, police and signage, other services in the case of accidents....makes it a motorway, or for that matter an expressway.

Also dedicated filling stations, guest rooms and services at intervals are needed.

Rest areas after every 50 kms.

Bus terminus by Daewoo Pak

India is having very massive road network(Big and small,paved and unpaved)-5.4 million kms of road,Can you believe and maintaining that much of size can create many major economy countries to go bankrupt.

Also if you look at the construction quality of Indian roads pic below and others posted by you and others, they aren't looking good, look at the bumps, the uneven surface clearly visible, look at the side Kerbs not is proper alignment. Quality is no way comparable to Motorways in Pakistan.

Lahore roads, construction quality is good in Lahore for a number of reasons.

-Big companies like HCS, NLC, FWO are involved in construction of roads and infra equipped with men and machines, latest heavy machinery.

Lahore kalma Chowk

 

[metabug]

@Pluralist Not taking anything away from Pakistani highways, but how ignorant you can be degrading Indian highway system? There are massive infrastructure mega projects going on in India right now and modern highway system are no exception.
Those are some good looking Pakistani highways you posted there. But India has a vast in fact second largest network of roadways in the world.

How these expressways/highways less competent?

 

[rishav]

honestly it's a bit ignorant on your part @Pluralist to think that indian highways , expressways don't have rest areas . why wouldn't they ?
Rest Areas after Karhal Interchange if you are going to Lucknow

rest-area01 by Mehar, on Flickr

rest-area02 by Mehar, on Flickr

Rest area just after bangarmau exit

rest-area01 by Mehar, on Flickr

rest-area02 by Mehar, on Flickr

rest-area03 by Mehar, on Flickr

There are some expressways in india which can be compared to expressways anywhere in the world like
Yamuna Expressway (165 kms)

End of YE
Yamuna Expressway, India by JNath, on Flickr

Smooth Road
Yamuna Expressway, India by JNath, on Flickr

A Jaguar on sight
Yamuna Expressway, India by JNath, on Flickr

Multiple clear signage
Yamuna Expressway, India by JNath, on Flickr

And then there are so called "expressways" in india like this :

KMP expressway (135 kms)

look at the width of the shoulder lane

 

[MULUBJA]

Third and seventh picture is superb. My Thumbs up.

Lahore is clean? joke of the decade.

Why?

These are really good.