Kurulus Osman fans

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i m watching Eurtugul season 5.. it is just awesome

 

[W.11]

I know I will trigger many AKP-fans but those series are used as a drug for AKP-voter ummah fans to make them think the Ottoman Empire in it's decline was the strongest state in the World.

I remember seeing a scene from Payitaht: Abdulhamid while trying to search for something to watch. The Sultan was shouting to an ambassador-I think he was English- and making big words to him like '' I won't give these lands which my ancestors gave their lives for it'' but in reality he gave away all of N.Africa except Libya, half of the lands in the Balkans and the Cyprus LMAO

The turkish ottoman empire is mainly celebrated in the islamic world for one big reason only and that is its protecton of mecca and madina, something which happened only probably after the abbasids, if the ottomans hadn't done that it would never be considered as a holy caliphate. Ottomans made severe mistakes esp with the muslims of the indian subcontinent by dealing with the british when the indian muslims were keeping ottomans in high regards. Something which is seldom known.

regards

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

The turkish ottoman empire is mainly celebrated in the islamic world for one big reason only and that is its protecton of mecca and madina, something which happened only probably after the abbasids, if the ottomans hadn't done that it would never be considered as a holy caliphate. Ottomans made severe mistakes esp with the muslims of the indian subcontinent by dealing with the british when the indian muslims were keeping ottomans in high regards. Something which is seldom known.

regards

I know, and as you can see, I have an Ottoman general who defended the Mecca in WW1 as my pp. Most of the Turks either thinks that the Ottomans at their decline Arabized it's population in order to keep the empire together; or that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was a traitor who destroyed the holy Ottoman Empire. But I don't, they both have special places in me. I just said the truths.

 

[Itachi]

Holy ****, there's no way that's real

What isn't real?

 

[Safriz]

in one episode of Payitaht Abdul Hamid series the sultan calls out to Pakistanis, but there was no Pakistan in his time.. lol

Yes but at the time Jauhar brother es were running a campaign in what was then British India and Muslims from what's now Pakistan were going to Ottoman empire for helping them in various ways.
We got duped big time by the British.
At the time WW1 was ongoing and plenty of British Indian Hindus and Sikh, especially Sikh joined British army and fought for them. But Muslims didn't join British army.
The British made a pact with Jauher Brothers running "Khulafat movement" that if Muslims of the British India start joining British army and fight one world war, they will save ottoman empire and won't end the caliphate.
Our ancestors started joining British army and fought on the front lines.
British still ended the caliphate.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

I haven't watched that series yet but obviously he was calling Indian Muslims...many of whom would later be Pakistanis...or their descendents...

Not really.. he said 'our Pakistani brothers '' something like that..how can you even say something about the a series you didnt even see yet.

I have great respect for Abdul Hamid as a person and leader but these series they just stretch it..
half of the time you would see palace politics between wives and maids..it bores the hell out of any history buff..

 

[Safriz]

I haven't watched that series yet but obviously he was calling Indian Muslims...many of whom would later be Pakistanis...or their descendents...



Waiting for English subtitles. If there's a good source with Urdu subtitles, I'll watch that too.

English subtitles are available from now onwards. Unofficial though on YouTube۔ People start posting from Thursday and on Friday plenty available۔
Ertugrul was TRT and they didn't mind people privately translating and posting on YouTube and Facebook۔
Osman in ATV and they been going gung-ho on anyone who posted a translation ، getting YouTube channels banned on copyright claims۔
But people like me complained to them in abundance and only now they have listened۔
Now they don't make copyright claim against people who post translation۔

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Not really.. he said 'our Pakistani brothers '' something like that..how can you even say something about the a series you didnt even see yet.

I have great respect for Abdul Hamid as a person and leader but these series they just stretch it..
half of the time you would see palace politics between wives and maids..it bores the hell out of any history buff..

As you can see there are many similarities between both Erdogan and Abdulhamid so that's why the AKP is trying to make them worship Abdulhamid with such shows. If you've watched that series you'll know what I mean. It's not like I hate Abdulhamid, I mostly like him but his policies are debatable and I also didn't like many policies of him. I mean, I could write thousands of pages about his policies, but I like him. But these AKP-voters literally see both him and Erdogan as a God, I'm not kidding. They would rather to see his reign for forever than seeing our country stronger. I might sound very anti-AKP but I am also anti-CHP. I don't care about ideologies or persons like the rest of Turkish people. I only care about seeing my country stronger.

 

[Itachi]

Not really.. he said 'our Pakistani brothers '' something like that

Does he have to be politically correct if you know what he meant?

how can you even say something about the a series you didnt even see yet.

If that series is based on history, whatever the stretch might be.....I and others with historical knowledge, can talk on it.

I have great respect for Abdul Hamid as a person and leader but these series they just stretch it..
half of the time you would see palace politics between wives and maids..it bores the hell out of any history buff..

Copy, I'll watch the series and make my own observations.

You also have to realize that "palace politics" have existed and still do in current times...

Except in the current times, the "palace politics" take place in different venues.

People didn't give out their daughters to the Ottoman Harems without a reason.

English subtitles are available from now onwards. Unofficial though on YouTube۔ People start posting from Thursday and on Friday plenty available۔
Ertugrul was TRT and they didn't mind people privately translating and posting on YouTube and Facebook۔
Osman in ATV and they been going gung-ho on anyone who posted a translation ، getting YouTube channels banned on copyright claims۔
But people like me complained to them in abundance and only now they have listened۔
Now they don't make copyright claim against people who post translation۔

Gotcha.

I'll then wait for it to come onto Netflix with English subtitles.

 

[MastanKhan]

I knew that our series were quite popular in many Muslim countries but didn't know that Kurulus Osman and Payitaht Abdulhamid were popular too lmao

Hi,

It is 'ours' also---it is a part of our heritage as well---going back centuries. Conquests of Turkish origin warriors were far and wide over the centuries---they just did not start and ended what is Turkey but all thru the Islamic world---.

Ertugrul gave gave hope and character to muslims all over the world---it showed them that minuscule ray of hope that was missing from their lives---. It reminded them of from where they originated and what made them great for centuries to where they are now---.

The serial Dirilus Ertugrul was the most wonderful gift that Turkey could ever give to the muslim world---a hope for the revival---and an endeavor to search for your identity in a world that we ssem to be lost in---.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

You also have to realize that "palace politics" have existed and still do in current times...

Actually he's not the only complainer. Everybody here complains about it. The thing is, most of our series are full of political shit between moms-wives and daughters. It doesn't matter if the theme is drama, history or even a comedy; our shows are full of them.

People didn't give out their daughters to the Ottoman Harems without a reason.

Well, if everyone is happy with what they got...

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Anyone else whatces the series?
I am a big fan. Watched the entire Ertugrul series and today watched the episode 17 with unofficial Urdu translation.
The story has taken an interesting turn

I watched all of Diriliş Ertuğrul on Netflix. It was a monumental event for Islamic media. I feel like the producers and development team succeeded in finally making a series which shows the Islamic lifestyle before European colonization.

It is unabashedly Islamic, and has no care what anyone thinks. So proud and true to the source of its own internal inspiration, much like the personality of Ertuğrul himself presented in the story.

This is why so many Muslims can respect and be awed at the great feat accomplished by the makers. Flaws aside, it shines and shows an aspect of Islamic culture which I feel has become very rare today.

He's a Angry Easterling.....anything that doesn't come from goras is inherently bad to him.



It is quite "original" in what it shows and how it shows it.

Bring me any "original series" that doesn't have fiction in it....in small or large parts.

The appeal of these series to the wider Muslim and non-Muslim world shows that they're a awesome series.

Let me know when the Pakistani drama industry, whose dramas are great in their own capacity, produces something the whole world can watch.

Brother, we need to develop our own series and movies on our history. There is so much gold, but we seem content with letting Indians steal our history by making shoddy flicks which insult the memories of our ancestors.

The Turks owned their own history, they showed a totally unique view of the world which had died long ago, and they have brought back pride in our Islamic past.

We should not be outdone, and climb even higher. Unfortunately our own drama serials are poisonous intrigues between mother in laws and daughter in laws, cheating husbands, and even drug addicts. It totally does not reflect our society.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Hi,

It is 'ours' also---it is a part of our heritage as well---going back centuries. Conquests of Turkish origin warriors were far and wide over the centuries---they just did not start and ended what is Turkey but all thru the Islamic world---.

Ertugrul gave gave hope and character to muslims all over the world---it showed them that minuscule ray of hope that was missing from their lives---. It reminded them of from where they originated and what made them great for centuries to where they are now---.

The serial Dirilus Ertugrul was the most wonderful gift that Turkey could ever give to the muslim world---a hope for the revival---and an endeavor to search for your identity in a world that we ssem to be lost in---.

Of course brother...

 

[Itachi]

Actually he's not the only complainer. Everybody here complains about it. The thing is, most our series are full of political shit between moms-wives and daughters. It doesn't matter if the theme is drama, history or even comedy; our shows are full of them.

I have seen that theme within Pakistani, Arab & Indian dramas too, to a certain extent.

Family politics are real.

Well, if everyone is happy with what they got...

Lmao...

What many failed (and still do) to realize is that cunning women in palaces throughout history have worked for their actual religions and places of origins, against their respective empires.

There was a woman in the Ertugrul series who was a crypto Christian...and I'm sure you have heard of the word "Donmeh"...basically crypto Jews, who were rife in the Ottoman Empire during its late stage period.

Even your "Ataturk" was/is said to be a Donmeh.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Even your "Ataturk" was/is said to be a Donmeh.

Actually, you can search about his family tree, he's neither Greek nor ''Donmeh'', that's something that illogical RTE worshippers (and the Greeks) claim in the country that Ataturk himself built from the dust. And about the Greeks, they claim everything we have (our lands, origin, foods, drinks, culture, you name it...) belongs to them, seriously they had no idea about this claim until Erdogan supporters started to loudly shout that Ataturk was a traitor who destroyed the holy Ottoman Empire. I don't worship Ataturk like as the Erdogan is seen as a God by his voters but we had one of the greatest leaders of all time and I highly recommend you to read about his life, his struggles and his ideas. He literally saved a nation that was destined to see genocides and become the slaves of others.
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youtube.com/watch?v=Qk7egz2MwHY
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Be sure to check these out. The sentence of ''Eclipse of the star and crescent'' may give you an idea of what was planned for us Turks before Ataturk saved us from them...