KSA gives $1 bn as Lebanon seeks arms to battle jihadists

[Falcon29]

No one has given us a dime or a nickel not even a penny prior oil era while on the other hand the Arabian peninsula people took Islam on their shoulder since the birth of it, fought tooth and nail to spread the message, took care of poor and elders.

We are Arabs too, unless you think otherwise. The same ancestors who held Islam on their shoulders. Actually it is true, people used to help Saudis'.

Saudi Arabia and the GCC as a whole don't recognize the Zionist entity. Israel is illegitimate as a state seen the by the GCC therefore, No side taking whatsoever.

So why is there constant mentions of Arab cooperation with Israel by Israeli foreign minister/officials/international analysts? Do you actually believe yourself when you say this?

No one mocks resisting Israel. You have my full support although I don't agree with Hama's policy but when it comes to fighting the Zionists I'm on their side. However, Hamas has put many innocent lives in danger lately. How many innocents have been killed as result of Hamas stupid acts? Hamas should make a peace at home first involving all the Palestinians parties and then interact with its neighbors in order to reach for a solution to the case and not to solely act. Uniting our stance is the only way to achieve our goals. These stupid fights among the Palestinians are deepen the wound and further worsen the situation making it a lot more complicated.

You contradict your statement, say that they have full support then blame something which Israel brought unto the Palestinians. Innocent lives have always been in danger, Hamas isn't fighting here by itself, all Palestinians are struggling for their freedom and they weren't we would surrender on day one. People will die no matter what, this happened at the times of our ancestors and to this day. Even our Prophet(SAW) was injured in battles. You just don't like Hamas not for any actual reason but because their ideology. Which is unfortunate, because even after all this effort against them they have survived because they have the support of God. Palestinians are united as well.

These 'stupid fights' you talk about are all created by the US/Arab/Israeli backed PA. They have done so many things to try gaining power in Gaza and all over the West Bank. They have done everything to make sure there is no opposition. Even right now they're saying stupid things like Hamas will dissappear from Gaza soon. And that Israel should cooperate with the PA. They lied about paying salaries of civil employees. They want control and power. You are supporting these CIA trash which need to go. There are some good people in them, those will stay and be supported by the people. However, most of them are CIA trash.

Instead of conspiring against muslim nations by adopting MB political ideology which the GCC and Egypt have regarded as a terrorist organization that its sole aim is the removal of the current leaders mainly the GCC, Egypt and Jordan which will cause a power vacuum that makes foreigner elements filling in.

You see, this is where you comes up with conspiracies. MB is not a 'terrorist' organization and isn't even an organization. It is movement/ideology. This is where we need to talk each other and form an alliance. If you are sincerely concerned about the Arab world the path being taken right now will blew up everything else later. And MB will have nothing to do with it. If anything Saudi Arabia/Egypt should ally with MB and be warm to Hamas. Hamas has nothing to do with this regional proxy war. Either way as a Muslim, don't let these foolish measures take any toll on you. You should know the first and foremost thing that needs to happen is dialogue. If you want a stable Arab world, but instead you guys are taking path of violence in Libya and elsewhere.

You guys lack political insight/strategy and desperately need it from us. An alliance will be the best thing the Arab world can get. And we can form one government/ideology, but you all are too attached to monarchies which God doesn't support. And you know this well.

 

[Falcon29]

@Arabian Legend

You seriously are deliberately lying over and over again and making outrageous notions. You say the MB is trying to 'overthrow' monarchies in the region. It's the opposite, the MB wins democratic elections in Arab nations and you guys do everything to overthrow them and refuse to cooperate with the governments in those Arab nations. All of this because you're worried about a few people running your monarchy which is against Islam.

MB never had any plots, they only believe in democracy and support the people of the region and their aspirations. KSA/current leadership in Egypt/GCC don't believe the opinion of the people matters. They want to go on the offensive against moderate Islamic movements which win elections in the region. Everyone could care less about AQ, struggle against AQ has nothing to do with this.

I seriously want to know why you would believe any conspiracy theory and why you put so much emphasis on that. And then you tell me to not get emotion and focus on facts. Yeah...I am focusing on facts...facts tell the extreme opposite of what you're claiming. You should ask yourself if it's right to demonize so many people in the Arab world all because you are so worried of the protection of a monarchy which is against Islam.

 

[beast89]

That didn't happen. Total BS.

It is the truth. It was a village tradition from where my grandparents were from. Are you an expert of what pakistan was in the 50s or 60s? Sending charity to holy land isn't uncommon.

 

[Arabian Legend]

We are Arabs too, unless you think otherwise. The same ancestors who held Islam on their shoulders. Actually it is true, people used to help Saudis'.


So why is there constant mentions of Arab cooperation with Israel by Israeli foreign minister/officials/international analysts? Do you actually believe yourself when you say this?


You contradict your statement, say that they have full support then blame something which Israel brought unto the Palestinians. Innocent lives have always been in danger, Hamas isn't fighting here by itself, all Palestinians are struggling for their freedom and they weren't we would surrender on day one. People will die no matter what, this happened at the times of our ancestors and to this day. Even our Prophet(SAW) was injured in battles. You just don't like Hamas not for any actual reason but because their ideology. Which is unfortunate, because even after all this effort against them they have survived because they have the support of God. Palestinians are united as well.


These 'stupid fights' you talk about are all created by the US/Arab/Israeli backed PA. They have done so many things to try gaining power in Gaza and all over the West Bank. They have done everything to make sure there is no opposition. Even right now they're saying stupid things like Hamas will dissappear from Gaza soon. And that Israel should cooperate with the PA. They lied about paying salaries of civil employees. They want control and power. You are supporting these CIA trash which need to go. There are some good people in them, those will stay and be supported by the people. However, most of them are CIA trash.


You see, this is where you comes up with conspiracies. MB is not a 'terrorist' organization and isn't even an organization. It is movement/ideology. This is where we need to talk each other and form an alliance. If you are sincerely concerned about the Arab world the path being taken right now will blew up everything else later. And MB will have nothing to do with it. If anything Saudi Arabia/Egypt should ally with MB and be warm to Hamas. Hamas has nothing to do with this regional proxy war. Either way as a Muslim, don't let these foolish measures take any toll on you. You should know the first and foremost thing that needs to happen is dialogue. If you want a stable Arab world, but instead you guys are taking path of violence in Libya and elsewhere.

You guys lack political insight/strategy and desperately need it from us. An alliance will be the best thing the Arab world can get. And we can form one government/ideology, but you all are too attached to monarchies which God doesn't support. And you know this well.

Nope its not true. No one has ever given us anything.

It isn't my problem that you take unsupported claims roaming over the internet. If there is any relation of any kind then we would have seen proofs for that.

Palestinians are not united given the fact that Hamas and Fateh are at each other throat. Or why do you think Makkah, Cario and Doha agreement took place? Later both parties broke the agreement. I talk facts unlike you.

Wrong again, Arab has no beef in this flighting unless you have some evidence to put forward.

Stop harassing israel militarily. Israel’s use of force against Hamas is disproportionate which means diplomacy is the way to go and the only card you have got in hand. By harassing Israel militarily you give them a reason to attack you. That is what Israel wants and sadly you fell into that trap.

The MB isn't new to us, we hosted them when they got kicked by Jamal Abdual Nassar back in the days. We granted them shelter and provided them with jobs..etc. So you are in no position to tell us about the MB. Saudi Arabia has regarded them as a terrorist organization because of their agenda so take that or leave it. Why should there be any organization, party, movement in the Arab and Islamic world? The MB have been thrown based on the demand of the Egyptian.

Saudi Arabia will not engage with Hamas unless Hamas becomes an official representative of the Palestinians recognized by the Arab league nor will accept the immature MB especially after the interference in the UAE and Saudi Arabia. You want a dialogue then bring it on the table at the Arab league. If Hamas want to decides the fate of the Palestinians excluding the rest then so be it but walk your way, no support you will get from our side. We support Palestine as one entity so if you want to divide then the blame goes on to you not on us.


If God wants the MB to be in power then they will but as he says clearly in the Quran: Say, "O Allah , Owner of Sovereignty, You give sovereignty to whom You will and You take sovereignty away from whom You will. You honor whom You will and You humble whom You will. In Your hand is [all] good. Indeed, You are over all things competent.

That verse replies to your statement about MB holding power in Egypt.

Saudi Arabia is not involved in Libya whatsoever.

You are the one that lack political insight and strategy that is why you are in total mess where the Saudi monarchy has been ruling the Arabian peninsula for about 3 centuries and that the Saudi state has been stable since then politicly, socially and economically.

It is the truth. It was a village tradition from where my grandparents were from. Are you an expert of what pakistan was in the 50s or 60s? Sending charity to holy land isn't uncommon.

Not an expert of Pakistan but an expert on the history of my country.

 

[Arabian Legend]

@Arabian Legend

You seriously are deliberately lying over and over again and making outrageous notions. You say the MB is trying to 'overthrow' monarchies in the region. It's the opposite, the MB wins democratic elections in Arab nations and you guys do everything to overthrow them and refuse to cooperate with the governments in those Arab nations. All of this because you're worried about a few people running your monarchy which is against Islam.


MB never had any plots, they only believe in democracy and support the people of the region and their aspirations. KSA/current leadership in Egypt/GCC don't believe the opinion of the people matters. They want to go on the offensive against moderate Islamic movements which win elections in the region. Everyone could care less about AQ, struggle against AQ has nothing to do with this.


I seriously want to know why you would believe any conspiracy theory and why you put so much emphasis on that. And then you tell me to not get emotion and focus on facts. Yeah...I am focusing on facts...facts tell the extreme opposite of what you're claiming. You should ask yourself if it's right to demonize so many people in the Arab world all because you are so worried of the protection of a monarchy which is against Islam.

UAE to release info on those involved in Brotherhood plot

Saudi Arabia the founder of the UN counter terrorism committee speak volumes.

Saudi Arabia congratulated Morsi when he won the election and handed $1 billion to Egypt.

It wast Saudi Arabia that walked the street protesting for the removal of MB but the 22 million signatures calling for the outset of Morsi. We support Egypt as a nation no matter who is in power.


The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud has sent a cable of congratulations to President Dr. Mohammad Morsi on his election as the President of the Arab Republic of Egypt.

Following is its text:

'Your Excellency President Dr. Mohammad Morsi,

Peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you,

We congratulate the brotherly Egyptian people and compliment you on your election as the President of the Arab Republic of Egypt. We appreciate this election by our brothers in Egypt and hope from Allah Almighty to help you and guide your path for the service of Islam and serving Egypt and its people for the sake of its stability, growth and shouldering of its Islamic and Arab role.

May peace and Allah's mercy and blessings be upon you.


The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques,

Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud

The King of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

 

[Falcon29]

Nope its not true. No one has ever given us anything.

I'm referring to general citizens/charity.

It isn't my problem that you take unsupported claims roaming over the internet. If there is any relation of any kind then we would have seen proofs for that.

Why would Israeli intelligence chiefs/ministers claim so then?

Palestinians are not united given the fact that Hamas and Fateh are at each other throat. Or why do you think Makkah, Cario and Doha agreement took place? Later both parties broke the agreement. I talk facts unlike you.

No, you don't talk facts. I talk facts. Don't fool yourself.
Abbas hails 'end' of Palestinian division | Maan News Agency
UN, EU back Palestinian unity government | Maan News Agency

Wrong again, Arab has no beef in this flighting unless you have some evidence to put forward.

Again, you're being lazy here. They are absolutely involved in trying to make Hamas disappear from the unity government. Just as in 2007, Hamas was part of the unity government. Then Jordan began training PA forces to go kill the ministers and get a coup.

Stop harassing israel militarily. Israel’s use of force against Hamas is disproportionate which means diplomacy is the way to go and the only card to you have got in hand. By harassing Israel militarily you give them a reason to attack you. That is what Israel wants and sadly you fell into that trap.

Israel has an agenda and launched this assault. Hamas is responding, this is supported by facts. Ever since the three settlers were killed.

Why should there be any organization, party, movement in the Arab and Islamic world?

Why shouldn't there be? You want everyone to be a monarch?

The MB have been thrown based on the demand of the Egyptian.

Not falling for that, they had a term to serve. Those 'Egyptians' are mostly a few million coptics and poor people in the streets in which hilariously was claimed 30 million in a couple kilometers.

Saudi Arabia will not engage with Hamas unless Hamas become an official representative of the Palestinians recognized by the Arab league nor will accept the immature MB especially after the interference in the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

Hamas has nothing to do with international MB affairs.They serve Palestinian interests only. And MB never interfered in UAE or Saudi Arabia.

If God wants the MB to be in power then they will but as he says clearly in the Quran: Say, "O Allah , Owner of Sovereignty, You give sovereignty to whom You will and You take sovereignty away from whom You will. You honor whom You will and You humble whom You will. In Your hand is [all] good. Indeed, You are over all things competent.

Nobody talked about what God wants or doesn't want. I am asking you a simple question, according to Islam what did our Prophet(SAW) and God tell us of monarchies. If they are fine and you can support this with sources please do so. I don't want to overthrow your monarchies either, I'm just telling you that there is an obsession with them amongst some citizens and that's dangerous.

Secondly, you clearly don't know why God revealed this verse. It was because Arabs in Medina were ridiculing the Arab Muslims after Prophet Muhammad(SAW) told us what we would conquer in the future.

UAE to release info on those involved in Brotherhood plot

Yeah we know this, UAE arrested 30 people, mostly Egyptians who are part of an employee program in UAE and accused them of plotting to overthrow the monarch. Which wasn't true at all, yet they threw then in jail without fair process.

All human rights organizations said there was no evidence of such a thing.
UAE: End downward cycle of unfair political trials | Amnesty International USA
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/01/uae-convicts-30-over-muslim-brotherhood-ties-20141219282926160.html