KSA bans transgenders from performing Umrah

[war&peace]

I'm curious about their decision...how did they (KSAians) reason and motivate this ban? What sources they used. I have limited but within that I never heard any such verse of Quran or Hadeeth that forbids a transgender from performing its duties. Transgenders are also creation of Allah and Allah made them transgender by birth, so why would be declined from participating in the religious activities. Is it because of their weird behaviour? Are they a source of some sort of disturbance? Though the omra is non-obligatory, what about hajj?

 

[denel]

I'm curious about their decision...how did they (KSAians) reason and motivate this ban? What sources they used. I have limited but within that I never heard any such verse of Quran or Hadeeth that forbids a transgender from performing its duties. Transgenders are also creation of Allah and Allah made them transgender by birth, so why would be declined from participating in the religious activities. Is it because of their weird behaviour? Are they a source of some sort of disturbance? Though the omra is non-obligatory, what about hajj?

From my reading anywhere in the talmud there is no mention for such issues and hence neither most likely in the hadith either. Again, man made laws against laws of nature.

 

[HAIDER]

Should be differentiate " by choice " or " by nature"....

 

[Kambojaric]

Fail to understand the logic behind this ban :/? I am really interested in understanding the thought process behind barring Muslims (regardless of their gender) from performing umrah!

 

[marbella]

Transgenders can't perform Umrah, Dalits can't enter temples.
Religious people may be pious as per their belief but are far from humanity.

 

[The Eagle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/802180398193197057

No Saudi ban on visas for transgender pilgrims: TAAP

By Sehrish Wasif
Published: November 25, 2016

ISLAMABAD: The Travel Agents Association of Pakistan (TAAP) has denied receiving instructions from the Saudi government for not issuing visas to transgender persons who wish to visit the holy land to perform Umrah.

“There is no truth in such reports. TAAP neither received any instructions nor a notification [in this regard],” Ishtiaq Ahmad Khan, the associations regional secretary, told The Express Tribune on Friday.

“It is not in our knowledge. We just got to know about it through the media,” a Lahore-based member of TAAP said. Such misleading news without verification checks will only result in increased discrimination in the society, he added.

“In our society, the transgender community is already being treated as outcasts and such kind of news will further ruin their image,” he said.

Senate panel to mull Saudi ban on transgender pilgrims

On Tuesday, local media reported that the Saudi Consul General in Islamabad, in a notification issued to the TAAP, warned against granting visas to transgender persons for Umrah pilgrimage.

The issue was also raised in the upper house of Parliament, which was then referred to a special committee formed to address the problems being faced by marginalised segments of society. The committee was directed to present its recommendations in two months.

In protest, the transgender community also took to the streets against the ban.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Should be differentiate " by choice " or " by nature"....

Can u plz explain me what is the difference bw them , I don't know anything about them.

And who are transgenders biologically??

 

[OTTOMAN]

I don't see so much curse flood, when Iran kill Pakistani rangers and villagers and fishermen. All i have ever seen is lame justifications.
This is beyond bigotry... as usual!

 

[pakman12]

https://www.samaa.tv/social-buzz/2016/11/saudi-embassy-denies-banning-transgenders-for-umrah/
https://www.samaa.tv/social-buzz/2016/11/saudi-embassy-denies-banning-transgenders-for-umrah/
As always fake rumours spread like wildfire and our gullible pakistanis believe it.

 

[friendly_troll96]

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[Hyde]

Raziii ye kya keh rahay hn aap.. ho kya gya hai aapko? Please bolo k ye jhoot hai...
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Oh No actually you didn't read it properly. I think he gave a good reply under the context of that deleted post

Back to topic

 

[Divergent]

That's absurd, if it's a case of preventing the Transgenders who were born normal and went off rail, it's not fair on the ones who are innocent and faultless due to the way they've been created. The most they can do is check medical records and certificates to see if they're a natural born state or not.

Ban those from entering who tampered with their natural being and allow those who were born like that.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Raziii ye kya keh rahay hn aap.. ho kya gya hai aapko? Please bolo k ye jhoot hai...
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I got to play by the rules, but I give these mods the slip once in a while.

 

[pakman12]

That's absurd, if it's a case of preventing the Transgenders who were born normal and went off rail, it's not fair on the ones who are innocent and faultless due to the way they've been created. The most they can do is check medical records and certificates to see if they're a natural born state or not.

Ban those from entering who tampered with their natural being and allow those who were born like that.

Try reading the thread please. The OP headline is based on fake news.

 

[LfcRed]

Pakistani news sources are equally poor to indian news sources these days. One creates a rumor and other starts copying without any confirmation from official sources.