Khatam-i-Nabuwat: Convert or face consequences, Ahmadis told

[Pakistani E]

My question was simple Am I Muslim for you?

First answer me that and than may be we will go into Quran's verses.

You already declared me a kafir, why does an opinion of kafir effect you?

If the Imam Mahdi according to your beliefs comes and some Muslims rejects him, what is their status? You will get your answer. Besides, we don't stop people from calling themselves. You can call yourself Muslim, it's none of my business.

if Jesus returns then Jesus would be the last prophet... is something missing???

Ha, even Indian understood something so basic that the sarkari muslims have a hard time understanding.

t God is there in the skies

God is everywhere.

 

[I.R.A]

You already declared me a kafir, why does an opinion of kafir effect you?

If the Imam Mahdi according to your beliefs returns and some Muslims rejects him, what is their status? You will get your answer. Besides, we don't stop people from calling themselves. You can call yourself Muslim, it's none of my business.

This is not an answer to my question why not give me a clear straight answer?............................... I have not declared anything yet.

According to underlined I am not a Muslim according to your belief, otherwise I would not have been preached by one of your youth to convert to Qadiyaniat (remember @Jaanbaz you too never replied to my set of questions on some thread) the thing is easy to claim victimhood but it is hard to accept your responsibility and your fault at being part of the problem.

@Jungibaaz can this thread be closed please it appears to be a religious thread and religious threads are against the forum rules. Thanks

 

[shaheenmissile]

@Jaanbaz if you are a Mirazaii , why not keep your Mirzaii propaganda to yourself?

 

[Imran Khan]

اگر پاکستانی فرقہ بندی کی عینک سے دیکھا جائے تو ہر فرقہ دوسرے کو کافر سمجھتا ہے اور اس طرح مکمل طور پر اسلام کا خآتمہ ہو جاتا ہے ملک میں ۔ رہی بات شعیہ اور احمدی کی تو جناب جب سے جھنگوی برانڈ مارکیٹ میں آیا ہے احمدی شکر کرتے ہیں کہ وہ کافر ہیں شعیہ نہیں ۔ پاکستان کے کیا عجب رنگ ہیں یار ۔

 

[Bratva]

This is not an answer to my question why not give me a clear straight answer?............................... I have not declared anything yet.

According to underlined I am not a Muslim according to your belief, otherwise I would not have been preached by one of your youth to convert to Qadiyaniat (remember @Jaanbaz you too never replied to my set of questions on some thread) the thing is easy to claim victimhood but it is hard to accept your responsibility and your fault at being part of the problem.

@Jungibaaz can this thread be closed please it appears to be a religious thread and religious threads are against the forum rules. Thanks

The arrival of Mahdi/Jesus is tied to an era of peace and complete unity among muslims. Why didn't era of peace started with Mirza ghulam and unity among muslims occurred. Ask any Qadiyaani this question. Either they become speechless or they will do Aye baye shaye.

Peer Meher Shah sahab had great debates with Mirzaa ghulam ahmad. One should read such debates to see the hypocrisy of mirza ghulam ahmed beliefs

 

[Imran Khan]

دنیا 5جی کے جب تجربے کر رہی ہے اور سولر سسٹم سے باہر نکل رہی ہے مسلمان ابھی تک ہزاروں سال پہلے مرے ہوئے لوگوں کا انتظار کر رہے ہیں

 

[Pakistani E]

This is not an answer to my question why not give me a clear straight answer?............................... I have not declared anything yet.

According to underlined I am not a Muslim according to your belief, otherwise I would not have been preached by one of your youth to convert to Qadiyaniat (remember @Jaanbaz you too never replied to my set of questions on some thread) the thing is easy to claim victimhood but it is hard to accept your responsibility and your fault at being part of the problem.

@Jungibaaz can this thread be closed please it appears to be a religious thread and religious threads are against the forum rules. Thanks

You want me to answer your questions but don't want to answer mine. How typical.

You are a Muslim but you commit kufr (denial) by rejecting whom I believed to be sent by God. Does that answer your question?

And I am not part of the problem, the day I grab an AK and burst in to a Sunni mosque than consider me a problem. I've taken no violent action against any people and don't intend do. Your attempt at putting the persecuted with the persecutor is hilarious but very lame.

 

[Musafir117]

اگر پاکستانی فرقہ بندی کی عینک سے دیکھا جائے تو ہر فرقہ دوسرے کو کافر سمجھتا ہے اور اس طرح مکمل طور پر اسلام کا خآتمہ ہو جاتا ہے ملک میں ۔ رہی بات شعیہ اور احمدی کی تو جناب جب سے جھنگوی برانڈ مارکیٹ میں آیا ہے احمدی شکر کرتے ہیں کہ وہ کافر ہیں شعیہ نہیں ۔ پاکستان کے کیا عجب رنگ ہیں یار ۔

Remind me, when no one left they come after me but there was no one left to help me"

 

[Bratva]

You want me to answer your questions but don't want to answer mine. How typical.

You are a Muslim but you commit kufr (denial) by rejecting whom I believed to be sent by God. Does that answer your question?

And I am not part of the problem, the day I grab an AK and burst in to a Sunni mosque than consider me a problem. I've taken no violent action against any people and don't intend do. Your attempt at putting the persecuted with the persecutor is hilarious but very lame.

There are Walli-Ullahs and Sufis in Pakistan. who read 50-100 K darood each day. Prophet Mohammad PBUH visit them in their dreams and instruct them to do tasks about serving humanity. All those sufis completely reject mirza ghulam ahmad and consider him a heretic. There goes out your theory Mirza ghulam ahmad was sent by GOD. Not a single Sufi and Walli-ullah connection with Allah and His Nabi (SAW) cease to exist after supposed Mirza ghulam ahmed declaration that whoever rejects me will be rejected by GOD. What does that tell you ?

 

[Imran Khan]

اور مزے کی بات سنو پاکستانی کہلوانا پسند کرتے ہیں فخر سے
دیوبندی - انڈیا کے ایک شہر کے نام پر
وہابی -نجد کے ایک نئے فرقے کی بنیاد رکھنے والے کے نام پے
قادیانی - انڈیا کے ایک شہر میں نئے بننے والے مذہب کی بنیاد پر
اہل حدیث - اب بھلا کوئی حدیث میں بھی رہا ؟
اہل سنت - یہ لوگ سنتوں میں رہتے ہیں
سنی اور شعیہ کا لفظ قرآن حدیث نازل ہوتے وقت تھا نا نبی پاک کے دور مین کسی نے استمال کیا تھا
بریلوی - انڈیا کا ایک شہر رائے بریلی سے ماخؤز

ارے بھائی مسلمان کدھر ہیں اس ملک کے ؟

اور یہ ختم نبوت کیا ہے پاکستان انڈیا سے باہر اس کا تذکرہ سننے کو نہیں ملتا بھائی ؟ عربی میں ختم مہر کو کہتے ہیں ہر مذہب کے لوگ اپنے مذہب کو آخری اور سچا سمجھتے ہیں پر پاکستانی مولویوں نے تو اس معاملے کو روزی روتی بنا ڈالا مستقل ہی

 

[Pakistani E]

There are Walli-Ullahs in Pakistan. who read 50-100 K darood each day. Prophet Mohammad PBUH visit them in their dreams and instruct them to do tasks regarding helping human beings. All those sufis completely reject mirza ghulam ahmad and consider him a heretic. There goes out your theory Mirza ghulam ahmad was sent by GOD.

And Thousands of Sufis including some Khalifas of some saints accepted him and joined Jamat e Ahmadiyya. Don't use childish logic here. Ahle Hadith Mullahs still respected my grandfather and said he was a saintly man even when he joined the Jam'at. Will that make us Muslims now in your eyes?

 

[I.R.A]

You want me to answer your questions but don't want to answer mine. How typical.

You are a Muslim but you commit kufr (denial) by rejecting whom I believed to be sent by God. Does that answer your question?

And I am not part of the problem, the day I grab an AK and burst in to a Sunni mosque than consider me a problem. I've taken no violent action against any people and don't intend do. Your attempt at putting the persecuted with the persecutor is hilarious but very lame.

Name it whatever you want, and play with the words how you may want but I rest my case now. And leave it for others to think and ponder. How come a Muslim commit kufr is beyond me.

You did not grab an AK and go burst into a mosque (neither did I) but your spiritual leader in one of his sermons did rejoice death of a denying Muslim who committed kufr.

 

[Jaanbaz]

@Jaanbaz if you are a Mirazaii , why not keep your Mirzaii propaganda to yourself?

Boo hoo. Did I hurt your feelings? I'm not in Pakistan where you can just attack my home or kill me. I will continue to speak against killings of Christians, Hindus, Ahmadis and Shia Muslims. I will make sure that Pakistan gets international coverage for persecution of its minorities.

If that hurts you so much then why don't you grow out of your cave man mentality. Cheers.

 

[shaheenmissile]

Boo hoo. Did I hurt your feelings? I'm not in Pakistan where you can just attack my home or kill me. I will continue to speak against killings of Christians, Hindus, Ahmadis and Shia Muslims. I will make sure that Pakistan gets international coverage for persecution of its minorities.

If that hurts you so much then why don't you grow out of your cave man mentality. Cheers.

yes i know where you are.
You got your asylum application approved on this propaganda and towing the western propaganda line to appease your masters. Plenty of your kind do this so i am not surprised.

 

[Pakistani E]

Name it whatever you want, and play with the words how you may want but I rest my case now. And leave it for others to think and ponder. How come a Muslim commit kufr is beyond me.

You did not grab an AK and go burst into a mosque (neither did I) but your spiritual leader in one of his sermons did rejoice death of a denying Muslim who committed kufr.

Rejoicing on who's death? Where?

Now answer my question, when your Imam Mahdi comes and someone rejects him will they remain a Muslim? Don't change topic and for once a question too.