"Khan" surname: Is the title name only carried by Pashtuns, Punjabis, Mohajirs or other ethnicities?

[El Sidd]

What about Can and Jan surnames?

 

[Psychic]

"Khan" surname: Is the name only carried by Pashtuns, Punjabis, Mohajiris or any other ethnicities?

And I can understand history and intermarriages between Punjabis, Paktoons and Afghans using Khan, why Urdu-Speaking from India use the word "Khan" when there is no link to it.

The name "KHAN" is of the most common names identified among Pakistanis. Always wondered whether anyother ethnic tribes, race or caste carry the surname "Khan" also?

The Khan's or Hans trace their ancesstory back to Genghis Khan, Kublai Khan or Halaku han and the han dynasty. Later some of their descendants converted to Islam and conquest the subcontinent.

The punjabis, phustoons and some Afghans carry the surname khan, which does not represent the tribe but the linkage to the khan dynasty. They have their own tribes and cast later.

Like phustoons have ahmedzai, yousufzai and many others. And so does punjabis has other names like Rajput, Bhattis, Jatts, Qureshis, Siddiques etc etc

Also further information,
Khan is a surname deriving from the title khan originating among nomadic tribes in the Central and Eastern Steppe during antiquity and popularized by Turkic dynasties in the rest of Asia during the medieval period. Used in the Rourans firstly, and also by the early rulers of Bulgaria, it was more widely spread by the Islamic chieftains in what isnow Turkey, Iran, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

Khan is a common surname particularly among Muslims of Central and South Asian origin. It is one of the most common surnames in the world, shared by over 12 million people in Asia and 24 million worldwide.

There is another use of Khan. Actually, Khan was and is also used as a name and not as a reference to race, tribe, Khanate or Khaqan e Azam. As an example, the name of one of my living family member has khan in it, its just there as a name and not as a reference to tribe. Its older practice and isnt in fashion these days. If I look at my shajra nasb, there
are names like Khan Muhammad, Khan Ahmad etc where Khan is used as a name just like other common names. Naming children Khan is redundant tho. Actually, in the past, many village dwellers had funny sounding names as well which are not heard of these days, Khan was one such name as it was used as a name.

Apart from that, there was a trend in Sub continent where people falsely declared themselves to be Syeds and Khans for some reasons. You can spot the obvious among them very easily.

yousufzai ..................SONS OF YOUSAF. LOST TRIBE OF ISREAL?

LohL.

To whoever presented that theory : Andhay ko andheray mein bohat door ki sujhi.

You do know many pushtoons migrated to as far as Bengal during British Era? Plus a large number of pushtoons settled in UP and Delhi regions.

The only problem is that they look like anything but Pashtoons.

 

[Baghial]

There is another use of Khan. Actually, Khan was and is also used as a name and not as a reference to race, tribe, Khanate or Khaqan e Azam. As an example, the name of one of my living family member has khan in it, its just there as a name and not as a reference to tribe. Its older practice and isnt in fashion these days. If I look at my shajra nasb, there
are names like Khan Muhammad, Khan Ahmad etc where Khan is used as a name just like other common names.

Apart from that, there was a trend in Sub continent where people falsely declared themselves to be Syeds and Khans for some reasons. You can spot the obvious among them very easily.


LohL.

To whoever presented that theory : Andhay ko andheray mein bohat door ki sujhi.


The only problem is that they look like anything but Pashtoons.

https://israelrising.com/pashtun-israel-now-begun/

 

[Psychic]

https://israelrising.com/pashtun-israel-now-begun/

That theory has been debunked thoroughly.

No bani Isreal admixture among Pushtoon tribes.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Khan is not a surname, any XYZ can use it. Just as PM Imran Niazi has used it. Period

 

[Crusher]

"Khan" surname: Is the name only carried by Pashtuns, Punjabis, Mohajiris or any other ethnicities?

And I can understand history and intermarriages between Punjabis, Paktoons and Afghans using Khan, why Urdu-Speaking from India use the word "Khan" when there is no link to it.

The name "KHAN" is of the most common names identified among Pakistanis. Always wondered whether anyother ethnic tribes, race or caste carry the surname "Khan" also?

The Khan's or Hans trace their ancesstory back to Genghis Khan, Kublai Khan or Halaku han and the han dynasty. Later some of their descendants converted to Islam and conquest the subcontinent.

The punjabis, phustoons and some Afghans carry the surname khan, which does not represent the tribe but the linkage to the khan dynasty. They have their own tribes and cast later.

Like phustoons have ahmedzai, yousufzai and many others. And so does punjabis has other names like Rajput, Bhattis, Jatts, Qureshis, Siddiques etc etc

Also further information,
Khan is a surname deriving from the title khan originating among nomadic tribes in the Central and Eastern Steppe during antiquity and popularized by Turkic dynasties in the rest of Asia during the medieval period. Used in the Rourans firstly, and also by the early rulers of Bulgaria, it was more widely spread by the Islamic chieftains in what isnow Turkey, Iran, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

Khan is a common surname particularly among Muslims of Central and South Asian origin. It is one of the most common surnames in the world, shared by over 12 million people in Asia and 24 million worldwide.

Many people of Marasi origin in Punjab also use "Khan" as their surname in modern times. Almost all big Muslim Zamindars in Punjab no matter what tribe/Baradari used to have "Khan" surname during the past centuries but it gradually got out of "fashion" probably during the Sikh military resurgence followed by British Raj in Punjab after which you find big Zamindar families developed a fetish about eastern origin "chaudhary" as their new surname which lasts to this day. However "Malik", "Mir" and "Khan" were originally the titles used by the male members of influential Muslim families in various parts of of what is now called Pakistan during medieval times.

Having "Khan" as family name or family title doesn't have any kind of "Mongolian" connection for 99% of the people who use it in Pakistan or used it in the past. It is just a mindset of egoistic influential families in areas of Pakistan which always used fancy titles with their names to feel "important" among the rest of their lot.

In the past only the most influential families of a tribe would use the titles like Malik, Mir and Khan, Chaudhary etc. But these days all lanju panju families belonging to the particular tribe/Baradari use these titles like groceries. For example every Jatt family these days use "chaudhry" as their title or surname but in the past there could only be "one chaudry Jatt" family within the whole village filled with other lanju panju Jatt families. Same is the case with "Khan" and "Malik". So these titles have lost their meaning/significance in the modern times.

 

[Crusher]

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are names like Khan Muhammad, Khan Ahmad etc where Khan is used as a name just like other common names. Naming children Khan is redundant tho. Actually, in the past, many village dwellers had funny sounding names as well which are not heard of these days, Khan was one such name as it was used as a name.

Apart from that, there was a trend in Sub continent where people falsely declared themselves to be Syeds and Khans for some reasons. You can spot the obvious among them very easily.


LohL.

To whoever presented that theory : Andhay ko andheray mein bohat door ki sujhi.


The only problem is that they look like anything but Pashtoons.

Agreed, Khan Muhammad used to be a common name in our areas in the past, here "Khan" is actually the given name of the guy. I remember a relative of ours whose name was "Khan Muhammad" and my grandparents used to refer to him as "Khanu" which was typcial punjabi style of nicknaming people in the past based on their given name.

 

[El Sidd]

Can Jan Kahan hotay hain? Surname is name of tribe. And title is a word which is used before name as a sign of respect.
For example Sardar Usman Ahmed Khan Buzdar. Sardar is title Usman Ahmed khan is name and Buzdar is surname

This is too confusing. Just get a bar-code

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

It depends on the usage. When Khan is used by Pukhtoons, it implies that one ancestor was a head of a tribe. This was also the same usage by Turks and Mongols of Khan/Han.

When Punjabis like Rajputs use it, it is more of a hereditary honorific title given to an ancestor for service under the Mughals, esp distinction in war or being a large land owner.

Interesting to see it as a first name also, I never knew that

 

[El Sidd]

This is not confusing. Surname is name of tribe. The word which is used before name is title like Mr or Janab. Khan is also used as title. Like Khan El Sidd Khan Rokhri. But khan in Imran Khan Amir Khan etc is not surname or title it is just name.
If Imran Khan writes his name Khan Imran Khan Niazi first khan would be title and second khan is part of name

like Syed title?

 

[El Sidd]

Syed ka pta nhi. Aap Kya title use krtay hain?

ek baat batayen... apne aapko naam dene ka kia faida jab apne khud nahi lena hota?
naam to dosre dete hain. apna kia hota hai

 

[Bouncer]

Apart from that, there was a trend in Sub continent where people falsely declared themselves to be Syeds and Khans for some reasons. You can spot the obvious among them very easily.

From what I have understood from my friends in KPK, people use Khan for the same reason people in Punjab use Rana, Chauhdary, Malik with their name.

Khan is not a surname, any XYZ can use it. Just as PM Imran Niazi has used it. Period

Any name can be a surname if you choose it

Many people of Marasi origin in Punjab also use "Khan" as their surname in modern times. Almost all big Muslim Zamindars in Punjab no matter what tribe/Baradari used to have "Khan" surname during the past centuries but it gradually got out of "fashion" probably during the Sikh military resurgence followed by British Raj in Punjab after which you find big Zamindar families developed a fetish about eastern origin "chaudhary" as their new surname which lasts to this day. However "Malik", "Mir" and "Khan" were originally the titles used by the male members of influential Muslim families in various parts of of what is now called Pakistan during medieval times.

In the past only the most influential families of a tribe would use the titles like Malik, Mir and Khan, Chaudhary etc. But these days all lanju panju families belonging to the particular tribe/Baradari use these titles like groceries. For example every Jatt family these days use "chaudhry" as their title or surname but in the past there could only be "one chaudry Jatt" family within the whole village filled with other lanju panju Jatt families. Same is the case with "Khan" and "Malik". So these titles have lost their meaning/significance in the modern times.

Spot on. IMO, this is because of a culture where people take pride in useless and made up history instead of their personal achievements. 99% of landholders in Punjab, even if their lineage is true, can't afford the same lifestyle a high end job in the city can provide. Its all fake pride. Brother, our lands have been divided three times for three generations since 1947. The biggest landlords today are the hustlers like Malik Riaz and JKT, not your ancient Rajput.

My caste makes fun of another caste in Punjab because they enroll in universities since my grandfathers' time. Logic is that they study because they did not have land to support them. Lol WTF. So glad I live away from all that toxic delusional shit.

When Punjabis like Rajputs use it, it is more of a hereditary honorific title given to an ancestor for service under the Mughals, esp distinction in war or being a large land owner.

Anecdotal evidence, but this is exactly what I have heard. This trend started with Mughals and even Brits continued it with Muslim nobility of the time.

 

[Psychic]

From what I have understood from my friends in KPK, people use Khan for the same reason people in Punjab use Rana, Chauhdary, Malik with their name.

" ...Some prominent converts later claimed biological descent from the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) or another revered Arab, boasting honorifics like Sayyid or Shaikh, despite their Indic biological ancestry... "

That was what I was talking about.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

" ...Some prominent converts later claimed biological descent from the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) or another revered Arab, boasting honorifics like Sayyid or Shaikh, despite their Indic biological ancestry... "

That was what I was talking about.

Lying about one's heritage, blood, or lineage are major sins in Islam. Such people should be aware of that.

In Pakistan, such people are found out and derided publicly. We care alot about our lineages.

 

[Psychic]

Lying about one's heritage, blood, or lineage are major sins in Islam. Such people should be aware of that.

We are not even allowed to give our name to our adopted child let alone change our forefathers.

But unfortunately that has been going on since the time Islam came to this region.
Many Sheikhs, Syeds do not have Arab ancestry. They were local converts who claimed to be Arab or Pushtoon; and now after centuries have passed, they still carry those surnames. The most obvious ones are easily recognizable owing to their Gangetic biological features; intermixing is not an excuse they can give for their looks since they rarely marry outside (Syeds do not marry outside at all).

Then, there are many instances where Musallis, Qasvis etc have converted to Shia sect and after some time they start calling themselves Syeds(since many shias are syeds). The real reason is to hide their real caste which they think is of a lower status.