Khalj Sultans of Delhi were not Afghans

[Mian Babban]

Khalj Sultans of Delhi were not Afghans

 

[Goenitz]

what difference does it make? they are considered as barbaric as other foreigners, except british by indians..

 

[Hamza913]

Asalamu Alaikum

The Khilijis lived in Afghanistan long enough to adopt Afghan customs. For all intents and purposes, they were Afghan. Their case was similar to that of the Mughals (however, I'm not sure if the Khiliji's actually married native Afghans, like how the Mughals married native Hindustanis).

 

[Kabira]

Khalji turks conquered Afghanistan, then local afghans converted and were employee in army. Then turks went to Delhi and were confused for afghans by later historians. Sound familiar.

Asalamu Alaikum

The Khilijis lived in Afghanistan long enough to adopt Afghan customs. For all intents and purposes, they were Afghan. Their case was similar to that of the Mughals (however, I'm not sure if the Khiliji's actually married native Afghans, like how the Mughals married native Hindustanis).

It was very minimal, original turks look like mongols before they invaded central asia. Now central asian turkic tribes look between mongols/chinese and original central asians. Khilji pashto speakers look like other pashtuns so either small numbers of khilji turks married locals to the point of losing all of their features or modern khiljis just have adopted khilji identity like many mughals in south asia.

 

[saurav jha]

Whoever they was they were not Indians.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Whoever they was they were not Indians.

Just curiosity: no intentions of being controversial. Whom do you consider to be Indians? Why?

 

[Zibago]

Just curiosity: no intentions of being controversial. Whom do you consider to be Indians? Why?

No no keep going with this narrative our case for Koh e noor gets more support

 

[Joe Shearer]

No no keep going with this narrative our case for Koh e noor gets more support

What case?

 

[Zibago]

What case?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-return-of-Kohinoor-diamond-from-Britain.html
No harm in asking right

 

[Joe Shearer]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-return-of-Kohinoor-diamond-from-Britain.html
No harm in asking right

No, none.

Excellent idea, actually; worth a shot.

Do you remember Zaffarullah Khan? Choudhury Sir Mohammed Zafarullah Khan? He had the same excellent idea, and gave it a shot.

Hope you have better luck.

Whoever they was they were not Indians.

Err...any thoughts on the matter? Who is Indian, according to you?

 

[saurav jha]

No, none.

Excellent idea, actually; worth a shot.

Do you remember Zaffarullah Khan? Choudhury Sir Mohammed Zafarullah Khan? He had the same excellent idea, and gave it a shot.

Hope you have better luck.



Err...any thoughts on the matter? Who is Indian, according to you?

Simple Hindus.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Simple Hindus.

Ah, that makes it so much easier.

 

[saurav jha]

Ah, that makes it so much easier.

So do you agree?

 

[Mian Babban]

Khalji turks conquered Afghanistan, then local afghans converted and were employee in army. Then turks went to Delhi and were confused for afghans by later historians. Sound familiar.



It was very minimal, original turks look like mongols before they invaded central asia. Now central asian turkic tribes look between mongols/chinese and original central asians. Khilji pashto speakers look like other pashtuns so either small numbers of khilji turks married locals to the point of losing all of their features or modern khiljis just have adopted khilji identity like many mughals in south asia.

Khaljis did not conquer Afghanistan and did not have kingdoms and armies. They were simply settlers and had same life style as Afghans (sheep herders, nomads, etc). According to historians of Mahmud Ghaznavi times (Utbi and Gardezi), Khaljis were largely infidels before Sebuktagin.

Khaljis looked different from other Turks (who were Mongoloid) because they were White Huns ;

Mohammad Khwarazmi in Mafatih-ul-Alam (975 AD) says, "The Hayatila are a tribe of men who had enjoyed grandeur and possessed the country of Tukharistan ; the Turks called Khalukh , or Khalaj, are their descendants." (Hayatila is the Arabic and Persian name for the Hepthalites).

Tukharistan (ancient Bactria) was in present-day Northern Afghanistan between Hindu Kush mountain range and Amu Darya. In mid-fifth century AD, Tokharistan became the stronghold of Hephthalites. Byzantine historian of the 6th century , Prokopios, wrote about Hepthalites ; ," The Ephthalites are of the stock of the Huns in fact as well as in name; however they do not mingle with any of the Huns known to us......They are the only Huns who are white-skinned and their faces are not ugly" ......"their territory lies immediately lie immediately to the north of Persia , and their city, called Gorgo, is located near the Persian frontier"......"

 

[Maarkhoor]

So do you agree?

I am agree.
By the way you just admitted that Kashmiris are not Indian neither Kashmir belongs to India, same logic can be applied to all Muslim majority area under Indian rule.