Kayani warns US

[Jungibaaz]

I am not familiar with this **** but I will give oit a try for sake of decency once again.

I got an infraction from some retard that said trolling.

All I said was that Pakistan is in no position to threaten US with nuclear war, it is like threateing an elephant with twigs, now I may be guilty of hurting some fragike egos here but this is in no way trolling. Pakistani nukes are hardly Hiroshima level while we can bomb you to gathering stones for survival without a nuke.

Now go on and delete as trolling cause you got no logical rebuttal to this. Poor ....

He didn't threaten to nuke you, we can't reach you.
But we can reach your bases in the middle East, A'stan etc...

plenty of your troops are withing range and easy targets. If Pakistan is attacked, you can expect some sort of reply in the form of your bases being annihilated, your war in A'stan will be way worse then it is.

Nobody ever said that we could match the damage you cause, let alone beat you....
But we only need to cause you enough damage that war against us becomes more trouble then it's worth.

Your populous are already against this un-winnable war.... I don't think you'd have the nerve to attack Pakistan, US has no reason to attack, only to blame us for their failures...

These actions are less to do with dealing with terrorism or threatening Pakistan, but more to do with appeasing the American populous and finding an easy scapegoat to blame for your epic failures.

 

[karan.1970]

He didn't threaten to nuke you, we can't reach you.
But we can reach your bases in the middle East, A'stan etc...

plenty of your troops are withing range and easy targets. If Pakistan is attacked, you can expect some sort of reply in the form of your bases being annihilated, your war in A'stan will be way worse then it is.

Nobody ever said that we could match the damage you cause, let alone beat you....
But we only need to cause you enough damage that war against us becomes more trouble then it's worth.

Your populous are already against this un-winnable war.... I don't think you'd have the nerve to attack Pakistan, US has no reason to attack, only to blame us for their failures...

These actions are less to do with dealing with terrorism or threatening Pakistan, but more to do with appeasing the American populous and finding an easy scapegoat to blame for your epic failures.

An honest question.. If USA attacks North Waziristan (hypothetically), then is Pakistan willing to nuke Kuwait and Iraq (thats where most of American bases are in Middle East..No??)

 

[INDTAM]

An honest question.. If USA attacks North Waziristan (hypothetically), then is Pakistan willing to nuke Kuwait and Iraq (thats where most of American bases are in Middle East..No??)

I would love to see others answering this valid question.

 

[Major Sam]

You are underestimating U.S. They know what is needed. They have deep inside knowledge about Pakistan nuke. You should remember US-Pakistan long close relation. They know everything. There is no way, you or anyone can prove they don't know it.

that is also your nightmare that they know every location of nukes... now you are overestimating america. are you sacred from them?

 

[Jungibaaz]

An honest question.. If USA attacks North Waziristan (hypothetically), then is Pakistan willing to nuke Kuwait and Iraq (thats where most of American bases are in Middle East..No??)

If it is limited to NW< it will be interesting to see what our leaders response will be, perhaps to openly engage US forces in NW.
as for nuking, I don't think nukes are necessary to take out bases, conventional warheads on CMs and BMs or tactical nukes can be used.

It all depends on how much of an attack it is and how our leaders respond to it.

 

[INDTAM]

that is also your nightmare that they know every location of nukes... now you are overestimating america. are you sacred from them?

America may know where our nukes are but we are not threatening them.
We were not scared in 71 then why now?

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If it is limited to NW< it will be interesting to see what our leaders response will be, perhaps to openly engage US forces in NW.
as for nuking, I don't think nukes are necessary to take out bases, conventional warheads on CMs and BMs or tactical nukes can be used.

It all depends on how much of an attack it is and how our leaders respond to it.

But in the process your country will be badly affected by American onslaught.
Instead you can along with USA attack those terrorist!

 

[Awesome]

An honest question.. If USA attacks North Waziristan (hypothetically), then is Pakistan willing to nuke Kuwait and Iraq (thats where most of American bases are in Middle East..No??)

Why nuke?

5-6 baburs alone will be enough to neutralize Bagram and Kandahar. Then the US would need to come at us from the sea and at that time it would need to do an all out war or nothing at all...

Of course threatened with invasion from an all out war, and protecting Karachi from the senseless murders through aerial bombing of Karachi we can now safely assume as the SOP of American government after nearly causing the deaths of a million people since the start of this war... We can protect the loss of further human life by nuking their strongholds in the Arabian sea. Then they will need to come from Iraq and Kuwait... and our message to those government would need to consider whether they are with us or against us.

 

[INDTAM]

Why nuke?

5-6 baburs alone will be enough to neutralize Bagram and Kandahar. Then the US would need to come at us from the sea and at that time it would need to do an all out war or nothing at all...

Of course threatened with invasion from an all out war, and protecting Karachi from the senseless murders through aerial bombing of Karachi we can now safely assume as the SOP of American government after nearly causing the deaths of a million people since the start of this war... We can protect the loss of further human life by nuking their strongholds in the Arabian sea. Then they will need to come from Iraq and Kuwait... and our message to those government would need to consider whether they are with us or against us.

If they decide i am sure they will take out vital parts and destroy your air force, tanks and other military strategic assets to disable you.
They won't do an Iraq with you.

 

[LeGenD]

Why nuke?

5-6 baburs alone will be enough to neutralize Bagram and Kandahar. Then the US would need to come at us from the sea and at that time it would need to do an all out war or nothing at all...

Of course threatened with invasion from an all out war, and protecting Karachi from the senseless murders through aerial bombing of Karachi we can now safely assume as the SOP of American government after nearly causing the deaths of a million people since the start of this war... We can protect the loss of further human life by nuking their strongholds in the Arabian sea. Then they will need to come from Iraq and Kuwait... and our message to those government would need to consider whether they are with us or against us.

A single nuke fired would result in an all-out nuclear engagement. Trust me, even after a big loss - Pakistani leadership would not be willing to fire one unless Islamabad itself is militarily occupied by enemy forces.

We have to strengthen our conventional capabilities. And no nation can sustain even conventional firepower of US. Not even China and Russia. Talk of nuclear conflict is way too much unrealistic.

Kayani simply wants US to not treat Pakistan like it treated Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. This war with Pakistan can get messy and much more innocent lives will be lost. This is what his intended message seems to be. However, our media is a master at misrepresenting statements.

 

[INDTAM]

A single nuke fired would result in an all-out nuclear engagement. Trust me, even after a big loss - Pakistani leadership would not be willing to fire one unless Islamabad itself is militarily occupied by enemy forces.

We have to strengthen our conventional capabilities. And no nation can sustain even conventional firepower of US. Not even China and Russia. Talk of nuclear conflict is way too much unrealistic.

Kayani simply wants US to not treat Pakistan like it treated Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya. This war with Pakistan can get messy and much more innocent lives will be lost. This is what his intended message seems to be. However, our media is a master at misrepresenting statements.

^^Absolutely.

Pakistan should handle this situation very diplomatically.

 

[Windjammer]

Isn't this whole thing being blown out of context.?? !!
General Kiyani never threatened US with nuclear strikes or whatever, since Pakistan is a nuclear state, the apprehension would be there for any one seeking misadventure. The danger and fear of events spiralling out of control will always be in the back of the mind of the aggressor, hence the US is even reluctant to take action against the likes of North Korea and Iran.
Pakistan may not be able to defeat America but you can be sure as hell that it can and will cause some damage and then the turmoil that would envelope the whole region is any body's guess.

 

[karan.1970]

Why nuke?

5-6 baburs alone will be enough to neutralize Bagram and Kandahar. Then the US would need to come at us from the sea and at that time it would need to do an all out war or nothing at all...

Of course threatened with invasion from an all out war, and protecting Karachi from the senseless murders through aerial bombing of Karachi we can now safely assume as the SOP of American government after nearly causing the deaths of a million people since the start of this war... We can protect the loss of further human life by nuking their strongholds in the Arabian sea. Then they will need to come from Iraq and Kuwait... and our message to those government would need to consider whether they are with us or against us.

5-6 non nuclear cruise missiles to take out 2-3 bases in afghanistan.. ?? Nah... Dont think so...

And my question about Nukes is only because every one here seems to be tom tomming the nuclear card like a paplu in a rummy game..

And what about all out war?? Where did that come from??

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Isn't this whole thing being blown out of context.?? !!
General Kiyani never threatened US with nuclear strikes or whatever, since Pakistan is a nuclear state, the apprehension would be there for any one seeking misadventure. The danger and fear of events spiralling out of control will always be in the back of the mind of the aggressor, hence the US is even reluctant to take action against the likes of North Korea and Iran.
Pakistan may not be able to defeat America but you can be sure as hell that it can and will cause some damage and then the turmoil that would envelope the whole region is any body's guess.

for once we are talking on similar lines..

Threat of Nuclear attack as a deterrent is mostly on dense civilian targets since the cost of 1 million dead in a single attack is unacceptable for any nation.. Do you think even the most foolish of Pakistani Generals, will trade off converting Pakistan into a Nuclear wasteland in exchange for killing 100-200 thousand of NATO forces.. Dont think so.. Its a stupid threat that has no basis.. In my view, its the journalists who are converting Kayani's reference to Nuclear weapons as a differentiator from countries like Iraq, into a boisterous claim of possible retaliation or threat.. Kayani is no one's fool to even contemplate threatening USA with Nukes..

 

[Maritimer]

There is no nuclear muscle, just a media spin. Kayani was merely stating that Pakistan is not like Afghanistan, and it has a much more capable fighting force and weapons to resist any invasion. But the US is not in a mood for any invasions. Most likely the US will launch a limited raid into NW and kill the Haqqanis and then pack their bags.

But all of that can change if there is a terrorist attack on US soil. One will have to wait and see what would be Kiyani's statement then.

 

[Raftar]

Uthhhh oye sheraaaaa

 

[LeGenD]

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